7 Years ago Today. We ALL lost LASERPAT to COLON CANCER.

[T.P.]

It's my time of the year to say GIT-R-DONE,  It's COLONOSCOPY TIME !!!


I wish to inform the entire VRCC membership of the passing of Pat Jamail early today.  Known to us as "Laser Pat".    

Regards, T.P. and Nancy

[Disco]

Those of us who knew Pat miss him.     Those who never met him missed out.



With Texas Deb in June '08.

Go get checked.

[RainMaker]

He is missed.  In his last posts, he told us to get checked!  So if you haven't, go do it.

[Novavalker]

I've had a colonoscopy done  numerous times while I was in the military. Nothing too it. You only feel it when they turn each corner
I recall one colonoscopy didn't go too well. They couldn't get the scope all the way in. Doc said I was full of sh*t I guess the prep didn't do its job.
They really push the Fecal Immunochemical Test (FIT) which detects blood in your stool when you hit 50 years of age up here.

Everyone should do the FIT.

[TxDeb]

Thanks for remembering him!  It came up in my FB memory today too, and I chose not to share it. 
Still miss him everyday, and I cherish the memories of all the VRCC trips we took together!

[shortleg]

   Man has it been that long already?
Ya get it done, have on every year because of sever case of Chrones
  so do as they say.

[..]

Real men who care about their family and friends accept the snake.

Get 'er done.

[0leman]

I had my first colon check up when I turned 60, Doc said I didn't need another one for 10 years.  Really disliked the prep.  Had the test done out of town, stayed over night in Motel room, really fun.

The last two years (now that I  am passed the 10 year mark), the Doc's have been having me do the Stool swipe test.   Just dig in and sent the sample to the lab.  Sure is a lot more fun (sac) than the other choice.

Hey guys, it easy, doesn't cost a much, and no evasive. 

[da prez]

I'm prepping for tomorrow. It's my second one and according to the Dr. should be my last.

              da prez

[da prez]

Just woke up from my colonoscopy. No pressure like the last one.  Get er done. I did.

              da prez







   

[f6john]

One of my best buds had his done on Tuesday. I have to check with the boss to see when my next one is due. The last trip resulted in the removal of a few polyps, a first for me.

[T.P.]

A big THANK YOU to everyone who has responded,  Lets keep this going.

It could save your life ! 

  T.P.

[Serk]

Three more years until I need to do it, really not looking forward to it (The IV being started more than anything) but I'll do the needful once the time comes...

[da prez]

The prep is the most difficult part. I did the sedation this time. Woke up and got up. Wife took me to breakfast.
  A few restrictions for today , but that's all.
  To Texas Deb. Still sorry for your loss.


           da prez
  Dr.. says I'm clean and ready to go.

[cookiedough]

Three more years until I need to do it, really not looking forward to it (The IV being started more than anything) but I'll do the needful once the time comes...

Serk,  why the need to get it done in 3 more years?  I thought the normal time to do it was age 50 or has that changed or is it due to family genetics?  I thought you were younger than age 47 now?   Even at age 45 or so, does not hurt to get er' dun.....

[Serk]

Three more years until I need to do it, really not looking forward to it (The IV being started more than anything) but I'll do the needful once the time comes...

Serk,  why the need to get it done in 3 more years?  I thought the normal time to do it was age 50 or has that changed or is it due to family genetics?  I thought you were younger than age 47 now?   Even at age 45 or so, does not hurt to get er' dun.....

Yup, 50 is the recommended age to start, and I'll be that age in 3 more years...

Kinda scary, I've been in the VRCC since I was in my 20's, and now I'm 3 years away from being 50...

[fudgie]

Three more years until I need to do it, really not looking forward to it (The IV being started more than anything) but I'll do the needful once the time comes...

Serk,  why the need to get it done in 3 more years?  I thought the normal time to do it was age 50 or has that changed or is it due to family genetics?  I thought you were younger than age 47 now?   Even at age 45 or so, does not hurt to get er' dun.....

Yup, 50 is the recommended age to start, and I'll be that age in 3 more years...

Kinda scary, I've been in the VRCC since I was in my 20's, and now I'm 3 years away from being 50...

Yea I know. I been around since I was 24 and that was 19 yrs ago.  I'll get 1 in 2 yrs at 45. Dad has been colon cancer free for 10 months now.

[cookiedough]

Three more years until I need to do it, really not looking forward to it (The IV being started more than anything) but I'll do the needful once the time comes...

Serk,  why the need to get it done in 3 more years?  I thought the normal time to do it was age 50 or has that changed or is it due to family genetics?  I thought you were younger than age 47 now?   Even at age 45 or so, does not hurt to get er' dun.....

Yup, 50 is the recommended age to start, and I'll be that age in 3 more years...

Kinda scary, I've been in the VRCC since I was in my 20's, and now I'm 3 years away from being 50...

;

sorry Serk,  somehow I thought you were much younger than me with young triplets and that long flowing locks of hair

[SCain]

Pat & Deb, I think 2009

[RainMaker]

Pat & Deb, I think 2009

 

[T.P.]

The ACS Guideline for Colorectal Cancer Screening.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/colon-rectal-cancer/detection-diagnosis-staging/acs-recommendations.html

Age 50 was the old starting age, That's changed to age 45 for some people.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/cancer-articles/2018/june/new-guidelines-lower-colorectal-screening-age-from-50-to-45

If LASERPAT was still alive today, He would tell us all to GIT R DONE !!

   T.P.

[98valk]

Researchers from Japan’s National Cancer Center in Tokyo have found that an increased intake of magnesium reduces a man’s risk of colon cancer by over 50 percent. Men with the highest average intakes of magnesium (at least 327 mg/d) were associated with a 52 percent lower risk of colon cancer, compared to men who consumed the lowest average intakes. Published in the Journal of Nutrition,[2] the research studied 87,117 people with an average age of 57 and followed them for about eight years.

https://drsircus.com/magnesium/magnesium-is-basic-to-cancer-treatment/

http://mgwater.com/results.shtml?cx=004770821272276374146%3Awh5txc0dvdq&cof=FORID%3A11&q=colon&sa=Search&siteurl=mgwater.com%2F&ref=&ss=4510j3669446j9

[vanavyman]

Researchers from Japan’s National Cancer Center in Tokyo have found that an increased intake of magnesium reduces a man’s risk of colon cancer by over 50 percent. Men with the highest average intakes of magnesium (at least 327 mg/d) were associated with a 52 percent lower risk of colon cancer, compared to men who consumed the lowest average intakes. Published in the Journal of Nutrition,[2] the research studied 87,117 people with an average age of 57 and followed them for about eight years.

https://drsircus.com/magnesium/magnesium-is-basic-to-cancer-treatment/

http://mgwater.com/results.shtml?cx=004770821272276374146%3Awh5txc0dvdq&cof=FORID%3A11&q=colon&sa=Search&siteurl=mgwater.com%2F&ref=&ss=4510j3669446j9

  My wife has had me take Magnesium for years she read one report that taking Magnesium can give you a better chance of recitation after a heart attach.  Not sure if it is true but take it anyway.  She ended up with an issue with Afib and they recommended she take it so we both take it now. 

  On Colonoscopies, had mine this year again, at age 61 and I'm not scheduled back for 10 years.  That seems like a long time between tests for such a series issue.
Dan

[Jess from VA]

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

The big 500s will give me stomach upset on empty stomach.  I think 250s are all you need, but they were out.  Some pills cut in half easy, others shatter all over the bathroom.

[98valk]

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

The big 500s will give me stomach upset on empty stomach.  I think 250s are all you need, but they were out.  Some pills cut in half easy, others shatter all over the bathroom.

depends on the formulation. there are many types of magnesium some better than others.

one way is magnesium oil. not for ingestion but applied to skin or epson salt soaks, the skin sucks it rigth up.

[vanavyman]

We take Nature Made 250mg Magnesium that we get at Walmart.  Pretty cheap supplement.  Says it helps support Nerve, Muscle & Heart function.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I’d be a little apprehensive taking advice from someone named Dr. Sircus  ???

[98valk]

We take Nature Made 250mg Magnesium that we get at Walmart.  Pretty cheap supplement.  Says it helps support Nerve, Muscle & Heart function.

what type is it? might be very poorly absorbed type.

https://www.naturalnews.com/046401_magnesium_dietary_supplements_nutrient_absorption.html

https://www.naturalstacks.com/blogs/news/magnesium

[Bigwolf]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

[Jess from VA]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

Jerry, yours is the only adverse story on magnesium I ever heard.  Not that I've looked.

I cannot agree more on talking with a doctor (if you have one). 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

Thanks for the heads up 

[98valk]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

sounds like u had an imbalance of potassium, sodium and calcium, or dehydration. too much magnesium does cause loose stools causing more fluid into the bowls, hence dehydration.  if u drink coffee, it depletes the body of all of those minerals.

If you experience muscle pain and fatigue while taking magnesium, it could be that you are not taking enough. The amount you will need in a day depends on your gender, as well as other factors, which your doctor can help you determine. According to the University of Maryland Medical Center, the recommended dietary allowance or RDA of magnesium for most healthy women is 280 to 300 mg, while it is 270 to 400 mg for men. If you take less than this, you may experience symptoms of a magnesium deficiency, which include anxiety, agitation, insomnia, stomach upset, low blood pressure, confusion and hyperventilation. You may also experience muscle weakness and twitching, and if the deficiency becomes severe, continuous muscle contractions.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/520881-muscle-pain-fatigue-when-taking-magnesium/

[98valk]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

Thanks for the heads up 

nerve health? potassium yes, that's why over the counter is limited to 99 mg.  just eating potassium rich foods one could never OD on it. recent RDA is 4700mg /day for men. a banana is about 250mg. best to just eat the foods and avoid the pills unless and only under a medical professional.

nerve health? magnesium, very low levels in the cells and not talking about the blood level, two different things causes nerve problems.  high levels do not cause any damage to nerves. excess is just excreted.

one such article  https://healthfully.com/298392-electrolyte-imbalance-in-kidney-failure.html

[Bighead]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

Bigwolf go have a NCS ( erve conduction  study) done on that arm/hand. That is a classic symptom of CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) if it turns out to be CTS it is an easy fix. I had a numb thumb,index and long finer on my right hand for a couple of years. I knew what it was but didnt want to be cut. Eventually I got tired of it and had a CTS release. I waited so long it took about 9 months for the feeling to come back but it did and am glad I had it done. 5 minute surgery had it done with a block and took zero pain meds.

[98valk]

I’d be a little apprehensive taking advice from someone named Dr. Sircus  ???

I tried to send a personal message to you to apologize, however you have me blocked.

[Bigwolf]

I don’t understand the push for magnesium!
  

The list of benefits from magnesium is long (esp heart), and side effects.downside almost nil.

I saw many sources saying things like this and decided “what the heck, I’ll try it”.  That was a huge mistake!    First day was not too bad, second day I almost died!  I got severe muscle cramps!  I had cramps all over.......you know the heart is a muscle and cramps in the heart muscle are not good for healthy living.    I also got a severe cramp in my left shoulder that took a couple of days to relax.....and that was even with taking medicine and using creams to relax it.  That shoulder cramp pinched the nerve bundle from my left hand and now my thumb and 2 fingers on my left hand are permanently numb because the nerve died.

I am going to make a suggestion here.  It just might be wise to talk with your doctor and look at lab results before starting any metalic supplements.  Potassium and magnesium are both very serious players in nerve health.  Please be careful.

Bigwolf

Thanks for the heads up 

nerve health? potassium yes, that's why over the counter is limited to 99 mg.  just eating potassium rich foods one could never OD on it. recent RDA is 4700mg /day for men. a banana is about 250mg. best to just eat the foods and avoid the pills unless and only under a medical professional.

nerve health? magnesium, very low levels in the cells and not talking about the blood level, two different things causes nerve problems.  high levels do not cause any damage to nerves. excess is just excreted.

one such article  https://healthfully.com/298392-electrolyte-imbalance-in-kidney-failure.html

Folks,
I am just sharing my experience.  Whether or not you choose to value that information is up to you and none of my concern.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Jerry, I appreciate the info. It’s this kind of stuff that hopefully just stuck in the recesses of what’s left of my pea brain, to help me or a family member 

[Bigwolf]

Jerry, I appreciate the info. It’s this kind of stuff that hopefully just stuck in the recesses of what’s left of my pea brain, to help me or a family member 

Rob,
I hope to one day to have the opportunity to share some conversation with you without having to rush on.  We seem to be opposed on many things political but as you once said, “we might have more in common than seems obvious”.  I believe that is probably very true.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Jerry, I appreciate the info. It’s this kind of stuff that hopefully just stuck in the recesses of what’s left of my pea brain, to help me or a family member 

Rob,
I hope to one day to have the opportunity to share some conversation with you without having to rush on.  We seem to be opposed on many things political but as you once said, “we might have more in common than seems obvious”.  I believe that is probably very true.

That sounds great Jerry. I’m still clinging to a little hope that I can at least make a couple days in Taos. 

[T.P.]

What a GREAT way to keep my COLONOSCOPY thread on the front page.

Thanks guys.  T.P.