Christianity Today: Evangelicals Have Had Enough of Trump

[hubcapsc]

HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED.

HE WILL ALWAYS BE IMPEACHED.

And it will always have been a partisan sham. I only read your motorcycle
posts, never your political posts, unless they are quoted in some other post.

Politicians need to try reading each other's motorcycle posts, maybe something
would come of that...

-Mike

[Savago]

If what you and Vindman was true it would have resulted in more narrowly defined and specific charges in the impeachment.

I'm having a hard time to follow: '... what you and Vindman was true...'

I guess something is missing in this sentence...  I haven't made any statement about the call in this thread (aside quoting Vindman).

Well, re-reading it, the only statements I've made was about 'Faux news' and Trump ordering his people to not testify.

But I got curious now: do you mean that Vindman lied under testimony to the congress?
 ???

[Warlock]

 (I don’t wish for any of my political opponents to end up in Hell)
[/quote]Been reading the post and would say as a Christian God will use whom ever to make his will. Is Trump a Christian? Only God and him knows that. Reading your post saying you don't know much about Christians and sounds like for you point of view on Christians and your non belief kinda strange using this quote when most none Christians doesn't believe in Heaven or Hell. I'm glad I follow my God and read the Bible daily. When you put all your trust in mankind you will fail. Only true leader is God.
David

[phideux]

Do Christians consider Trump has been treated worse than Jesus was ?

Let's see... Trump is president of the United States, a billionaire, married to a
model and probably has gold plated fixtures in the bathrooms of all his mansions.

Jesus was nailed alive to a post and died while being mocked, spat upon and
jabbed in the side with a spear...

Of course, if you're talking about the trial before the crucifixion, like this senator
was, there's probably something to compare...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-lawmaker-says-trump-treated-worse-than-jesus-before-crucifixion/

-Mike

Jesus probably had a fairer trial.

[phideux]

Do you actually think"Phase 1" was an investigation?
Please remind us how many "Witnesses" actually came with first hand knowledge of the Zelensky/Trump conversation.

Answering the question: Lt Colonel Alexander Vindman.

Other people with first hand knowledge (Pompeo, Mulvaney, etc) simply ignored the subpoenas to testify to an impeachment investigation. Under Mr. Trump orders.

The funny thing about Vindman, all he could have heard was released in the transcript of the call so his “testimony” was worthless except for the Democrats to have someone to put out there to exploit the situation.

I hear many people talk about the “transcript”. It was not. It was a memorandum of the call. It is what was said to the best of their memory. They even stated such :

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the reco�d, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.

So the folks that were actually in the room and heard the conversation, and wrote it down, are less reliable as a witness, compared to people that heard it 3, 4, 5,6 times removed??? Or someone who just made up his version of the call???

[Jess from VA]

Do Christians consider Trump has been treated worse than Jesus was ?

Let's see... Trump is president of the United States, a billionaire, married to a
model and probably has gold plated fixtures in the bathrooms of all his mansions.

Jesus was nailed alive to a post and died while being mocked, spat upon and
jabbed in the side with a spear...

Of course, if you're talking about the trial before the crucifixion, like this senator
was, there's probably something to compare...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-lawmaker-says-trump-treated-worse-than-jesus-before-crucifixion/

-Mike

Jesus probably had a fairer trial.

  (good one)

Hopefully, the sentence is less harsh.  Though if his rabid persecutors had their way..........  

[f6john]

If what you and Vindman was true it would have resulted in more narrowly defined and specific charges in the impeachment.

I'm having a hard time to follow: '... what you and Vindman was true...'

I guess something is missing in this sentence...  I haven't made any statement about the call in this thread (aside quoting Vindman).

Well, re-reading it, the only statements I've made was about 'Faux news' and Trump ordering his people to not testify.

But I got curious now: do you mean that Vindman lied under testimony to the congress?
 ???

I should have proofread my comments. No, what I was trying to say, if Vindman had anything to add to the memorandum that carried any weight, I included you since you seem to think he did, then there would have been specific charges related to his testimony. If we had never heard from Vindman we would still be right where we are, an impeachment that had been in the works for 3 years with the facts and proof being irrelevant.

[Robert]

Dont forget they tried 7 times before to impeach Trump and they all failed.

[baldo]

Dont forget they tried 7 times before to impeach Trump and they all failed.

I think I missed that. Must have been on vacation?

[Serk]

Dont forget they tried 7 times before to impeach Trump and they all failed.

I think I missed that. Must have been on vacation?

Too lazy to count 'em all up, but search this document for multiple instances of them trying starting with House Resolution 438... Searching for "H.Res" will show some of the formal attempts thus far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Donald_Trump

[Bighead]

Dont forget they tried 7 times before to impeach Trump and they all failed.

I think I missed that. Must have been on vacation?

No you weren’t on vacation (but your brain may have been). They were screaming impeachment even before he took office.

[baldo]

Dont forget they tried 7 times before to impeach Trump and they all failed.

I think I missed that. Must have been on vacation?

No you weren’t on vacation (but your brain may have been). They were screaming impeachment even before he took office.

Don't you ever get tired of being you?

[Rams]

Dont forget they tried 7 times before to impeach Trump and they all failed.

I think I missed that. Must have been on vacation?

No you weren’t on vacation (but your brain may have been). They were screaming impeachment even before he took office.

Don't you ever get tired of being you?

Ya know, seems to me that's a question each of us should ask ourselves on a frequent basis.
Have found myself to be guilty of having to do the barnyard shuffle a few times, not pointing any fingers anywhere but toward my own mirror.

Rams

[Robert]

Well Baldo, it seems another person in a position to know has a conflict with your opinion. In fact he was the one that was involved heavily with the Clinton impeachment. This should also stop those from saying anything about any other impeachment.


Judge Ken Starr, whose investigation into former President Bill Clinton ultimately led to Clinton’s impeachment, slammed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi over the weekend for how the Democrats conducted their impeachment investigation into President Donald Trump, saying that it was a “phony impeachment” and will be remembered in the history books with a “footnote” or an “asterisk.”

She appears to be intruding into the powers of the Senate which is ironic and extreme,” Starr responded. “So, I think there is an abuse of House power in the way that this process unfolded in the House and riding roughshod over minority rights and ultimately the rights over the president. And now she is trying to essentially tell the Senate how to do its business: here’s the deal, Senator McConnell, leader McConnell — and it’s just wrong constitutionally. It’s not going to work. But it is wrong constitutionally.”

Democrats’ impeachment vote against the president marked the first time in U.S. history that impeachment was a strictly partisan event as no Republicans joined the Democrats’ efforts. Multiple Democrats broke ranks with their own party and voted against it.

The recent vote also marks the first time that impeachment has been used as a political weapon as Democrats did not allege that Trump actually committed any crimes, which Attorney General William Barr noted in a recent interview.



Noah Feldman, one of the Democrats’ top impeachment witnesses against President Donald Trump, said in an op-ed on Thursday that Democrats have not yet impeached the president despite their vote last night.

[RP#62]

Since Eisenhower there have been 11 presidents - 6 republican and 5 democrat.  Democrats have attempted to impeach all of the republican presidents except Ford.  Republicans have attempted to impeach two of the democrat presidents.  In each case only one impeachment has been successful.

-RP

[Jess from VA]

Since Eisenhower there have been 11 presidents - 6 republican and 5 democrat.  Democrats have attempted to impeach all of the republican presidents except Ford.  Republicans have attempted to impeach two of the democrat presidents.  In each case only one impeachment has been successful.

-RP

Impeaching is like a nice way of saying screwing. 

In my college days, I tried to impeach a number of my fellow co-eds.  My success rate was no better than Congress's.

The only difference is, I was always a gentleman about it and I never lied. 

[Wizzard]

Since Eisenhower there have been 11 presidents - 6 republican and 5 democrat.  Democrats have attempted to impeach all of the republican presidents except Ford.  Republicans have attempted to impeach two of the democrat presidents.  In each case only one impeachment has been successful.

-RP

Impeaching is like a nice way of saying screwing. 

In my college days, I tried to impeach a number of my fellow co-eds.  My success rate was no better than Congress's.

The only difference is, I was always a gentleman about it and I never lied. 

Lol  thats Hilarious   

[Robert]

Since Eisenhower there have been 11 presidents - 6 republican and 5 democrat.  Democrats have attempted to impeach all of the republican presidents except Ford.  Republicans have attempted to impeach two of the democrat presidents.  In each case only one impeachment has been successful.

-RP

Impeaching is like a nice way of saying screwing. 

In my college days, I tried to impeach a number of my fellow co-eds.  My success rate was no better than Congress's.

The only difference is, I was always a gentleman about it and I never lied. 

I have a check thats in the mail also 


I must say that the OP said people have had enough of Trump, but the reality is we need to thank the Dems for thier constant investigation of the president. Since if they had something they would have impeached, impaled, brought up on charges or done something other than hold the articles. Thanks Dems and go Trump, so at this point, I think evangelicals can rest easy. 
While he may talk trash once in while, his morals and decsions seem to hold up.

 The true character of a man is not revealed by his words but by his deeds. Trump has, through his deeds, displayed more godly character than any president of the last century. It is a sad commentary on the wisdom and discernment of church leaders when they judge a man’s character, as the Pharisees did, by their outward behavior and not by their accomplishments.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

Trump has, through his deeds, displayed more godly character than any president of the last century.

  (I guess our definition of godly character is at odds)

[Gryphon Rider]

Speaking as someone who does have a decent knowledge of the Bible (for a churchgoing layperson), I would say meathead has a better understanding of what Godly character is than many.  There are certainly other past presidents that I would rather have teach Sunday school than Trump.

[Wizzard]

Speaking as someone who does have a decent knowledge of the Bible (for a churchgoing layperson), I would say meathead has a better understanding of what Godly character is than many.  There are certainly other past presidents that I would rather have teach Sunday school than Trump.

He was not elected to teach Sunday school. I cannot think of any presidents I would put in as a sunday school teacher. Just saying
I would put MR. Rogers in Sunday School,, but not vote him in as president!

[hubcapsc]

Speaking as someone who does have a decent knowledge of the Bible (for a churchgoing layperson), I would say meathead has a better understanding of what Godly character is than many.  There are certainly other past presidents that I would rather have teach Sunday school than Trump.

He was not elected to teach Sunday school. I cannot think of any presidents I would put in as a sunday school teacher. Just saying

I'd love to be in a Sunday School class taught by Jimmy Carter, or one of the Bushes...

-Mike

[Wizzard]

Speaking as someone who does have a decent knowledge of the Bible (for a churchgoing layperson), I would say meathead has a better understanding of what Godly character is than many.  There are certainly other past presidents that I would rather have teach Sunday school than Trump.

He was not elected to teach Sunday school. I cannot think of any presidents I would put in as a sunday school teacher. Just saying

I'd love to be in a Sunday School class taught by Jimmy Carter, or one of the Bushes...

-Mike

He was a disaster as president,, nearly bankrupted us all. 17% interest.

[Wizzard]

I do not agree 100% with Trump! I have never agreed 100% with any president. That's just the way it is and probably should be. 

[hubcapsc]

He was a disaster as president,, nearly bankrupted us all. 17% interest.

Focus. Sunday School teacher  ...

-Mike

[Wizzard]

He was a disaster as president,, nearly bankrupted us all. 17% interest.

Focus. Sunday School teacher   ...

-Mike

I got it Mike,, It just brought back anger and bad memories  
But if you will remember,, he lusted.

[..]

Off on a tangent.

SHE
JUST
WONT
GO
AWAY!

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/2020-vision-hillary-shares-hanukkah-message-with-photo-from-white-house/

[Robert]

In Jesus time there were people that looked great, seemed very pious and were actually the priests and elders at the time and what did Jesus call them, "White Washed Tombs". Yet we have the Apostles that were not highly regarded and some were fishermen. One of the Apostles was a very learned man a pharisee and a known murder of men and feared by many. One of the apostles was a tax collector and some were fishermen unlearned, yet Jesus chose them for their hearts. In fact the people questioned the apostles and say these men are unlearned so how do they do this and know the oracles of God?

David was the one his brothers left behind when being chosen to defend Israel. Yet God chose him over his more presentable better looking brothers.

So I would rethink what God considers important.

Like:

Trump signed an executive order on December 21, 2017, authorizing the Treasury Department to seize the assets of people and organizations found to be engaged in human rights abuse, human trafficking or corruption. Since then, thousands of CEOs have fled their companies. Eric Schmidt resigned from Google’s parent company Alphabet the day the executive order was signed. A month later, the Rothschilds auctioned off an estate in Austria that had been in their family for 143 years. (Fire sale?) The arrest of Harvey Weinstein and the subsequent arrest of other Hollywood A-listers put Tinseltown on notice; its culture of sexual predators would no longer be tolerated. The prosecution of members of the NXIVM cult confirmed that things were changing. The re-arrest of Jeffrey Epstein earlier this year and the DOJ’s investigation of his accomplices suggests that the two-tiered system of justice is being reformed under Donald Trump.

Saudi Arabia, which previously exerted control over many U.S politicians, was the subject of a sweeping corruption crackdown in November of 2017. With the backing of Donald Trump, Mohammad bin Salman has brought many reforms to his nation, including changes to the barbaric practice of adult men marrying child brides.

Pundits expected Donald Trump to escalate the war in Syria, but he has shown only a desire to bring our troops home. He has repeatedly insisted that we must end the war in Afghanistan, even when it cost him the support of key military leaders. The media insisted before he was elected that Trump would get the U.S. into a war with North Korea, but through the use of back channel communications and cool-headed diplomacy, he was able to set up meetings with Kim Jong-un, and may eventually sign a peace agreement with the hermit kingdom.

How about Trump just gave the military the biggest pay raise they ever have had.Senate Sends Trump Defense Bill with 3.1% Military Pay Raise.

He accomplished so far:

    Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
    We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
    Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
    95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
    Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
    Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
    Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
    Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
    We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
    Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
    Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
    We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
    Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
    Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
    Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
    NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
    Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
    Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
    Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
    Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
    Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
    Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

[Alien]

Genuine question:

If the goal of every Christion is to be Christ-like, what do you, as a Christian, see in Trump that emulates the values, behavior or teachings of Christ?

I am genuniely curious.  No need to bring up all of the Democrats that you hate, I already know all of that.  Please just tell me about the Christ-like actions of our President that have spoken to your heart, as a Christian.

Ride Safe,

Alien

[Robert]

Genuine question:

If the goal of every Christion is to be Christ-like, what do you, as a Christian, see in Trump that emulates the values, behavior or teachings of Christ?

I am genuniely curious.  No need to bring up all of the Democrats that you hate, I already know all of that.  Please just tell me about the Christ-like actions of our President that have spoken to your heart, as a Christian.

Ride Safe,

Alien

Its pretty easy he cares enough to stop corruption and stop human trafficking, he cares about the military men and women and cares about the middle class. Any president that cares and does not just give things away to pay for votes cares not only about the people but the system of government.  

I will ask you at what personal gain is he taking all this on?

When was the last time you saw pastors and preachers assembled together in the Oval office praying for a president? Not just making the show of going to church and not just one pastor praying either. Many have made a show of being a christian and not followed through only participated enough to get the vote

[..]

Genuine question:

If the goal of every Christion is to be Christ-like, what do you, as a Christian, see in Trump that emulates the values, behavior or teachings of Christ?

I am genuniely curious.  No need to bring up all of the Democrats that you hate, I already know all of that.  Please just tell me about the Christ-like actions of our President that have spoken to your heart, as a Christian.

Ride Safe,

Alien

What does Roberts beliefs as a Christian have to do with Trumps behavior?

Who said Trump was attempting to be Christ like? OH yeah. You did.

Surely you're not in full on Distract mode???

[Alien]

I was asking all of you, politics aside, what about Trump appeals to you as a Christian in the context of Christians striving to be Christ-like?

[f6john]

Genuine question:

If the goal of every Christion is to be Christ-like, what do you, as a Christian, see in Trump that emulates the values, behavior or teachings of Christ?

I am genuniely curious.  No need to bring up all of the Democrats that you hate, I already know all of that.  Please just tell me about the Christ-like actions of our President that have spoken to your heart, as a Christian.

Ride Safe,

Alien

That’s a tough one. I don’t know him well enough to know his heart and sometimes ones persona is not what it seems or is perceived to be. I look at his children as window to the man he is, it appears they are well rounded, devoted and caring individuals Family is at the center of Christian life as Christ gave us direction in how a family is to function. The most impressive trait he has exhibited as President is his consistency in fulfilling his campaign promises. I don’t know of any policy he has promoted that has not been in the best interests of the country. Who else has been President and not taken the salary? I know he doesn’t need the money but neither does he need the headaches. Did Mexico write a check for the wall? No, did anyone think they would? Did he get a new trade deal to end the disaster of NAFTA? Is that the same as a check, to a Democrat, no to the Republicans yes.

For evangelicals being pro-life is essential. Christians value life, even in the womb. Imagine if you can Christ having a conversation with you and you trying to support the killing of a fetus. This trait alone is Christ like enough for me and to touch my heart. Trump could have just looked at polls and found he could pick up a lot of votes just being wishy washy on this one point.

I am a Christian that falters regularly and so does Trump, it’s the human condition. Some are much better at staying on the straight and narrow, my Mother for one and my Father who has passed on were perfect examples  for me to follow. It’s a lifetime struggle for me and I’m sure Trump to some degree.

Most Christians didn’t vote for Trump for his Christ like traits, they voted for the best choice to stop the slide into an abyss that would be difficult to ever get out of.

[Robert]

I was asking all of you, politics aside, what about Trump appeals to you as a Christian in the context of Christians striving to be Christ-like?

I will bring this up as a interesting point, its kind of controversial for many but Kim Clement was a prophet which some will argue. This was given in 07 and made no sense at the time, but now seems pretty accurate. I give this to you for you to decide, I personally found many of his prophecies to come true and respected his relationship with the Lord. You may say nonsense and thats Ok but it will make you wonder no matter.   

Will Trump Be a Two-Term President? Hear the Prophesy Made Before He Ever Entered the Race

https://stream.org/will-trump-be-a-two-term-president/

and

https://www.charismamag.com/video/40242-2007-kim-clement-prophecy-says-president-will-be-baptized-in-holy-spirit-build-the-wall-win-second-term

It shall be that the man in the highest office will go in whispering my name,

There will be a praying president not a religious one, I will fool the people,  the one that is chosen shall go in and they shall say he has hot blood. Yes he may have hot blood but he will bring the walls of protection around this country in a greater way and the economy of this country shall change rapidly.

“Trump shall be a Trumpet,” and even more startling: “God says, I will put at your helm for two terms a president that will pray.”

Remember this was 2007 more than 10 years before it actually happened.

 It seems that in reflecting on the OP's original post and then listening and seeing the words of this prophet, this prophecy has come true. We see that the religious have a hard time with Trump but the Lord says, We have a praying president not a religious one. That pretty much sums the whole thing up for me.

[Jess from VA]

Most Christians didn’t vote for Trump for his Christ like traits, they voted for the best choice to stop the slide into an abyss that would be difficult to ever get out of.

Even a lot of non-Christians probably voted for him for the same reason.

In 49 years of voting, I never picked who to vote for by looking for Christlike candidates.  Unfortunately, the bar has always been quite a bit lower than that.  I pick who I think is best for the country (or the job), and if a get a decent judeo/christian, so much the better (but it's not a prerequisite).

Looking for a Christlike politician is actually pretty funny ...... hilarious actually.  

If Jesus ever comes back, I really don't see him running for public office.  He'd be whipping the money changers off the floor of Congress (just like the Temple), and probably end up charged for assault and expelled from office.    

But There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio.     Hamlet, William Shakespeare

[Serk]

Most Christians didn’t vote for Trump for his Christ like traits, they voted for the best choice to stop the slide into an abyss that would be difficult to ever get out of.

Even a lot of non-Christians probably voted for him for the same reason.

That's why this non-Christian voted for him..... Anyone to at least take their foot off the accelerator of civilization driving off the cliff and into oblivion gets my vote.... And all the Democrats of the last election, and so far this election, are doing everything they can to end civilization on Earth.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Most Christians didn’t vote for Trump for his Christ like traits, they voted for the best choice to stop the slide into an abyss that would be difficult to ever get out of.

Even a lot of non-Christians probably voted for him for the same reason.

That's why this non-Christian voted for him..... Anyone to at least take their foot off the accelerator of civilization driving off the cliff and into oblivion gets my vote.... And all the Democrats of the last election, and so far this election, are doing everything they can to end civilization on Earth.

You lack no flair for the dramatic. 

[Wizzard]

Hey,, I am a Christian and agree with Serk 100%. That is why I voted for him. Had nothing to do with being Christlike. It had to do with the Democrats being so far out that I could not possibly vote for one of them.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Hey,, I am a Christian and agree with Serk 100%. That is why I voted for him. Had nothing to do with being Christlike. It had to do with the Democrats being so far out that I could not possible vote for one of them.

I get that. I doubt anybody (or very few) vote based on morality. But.....the comment was, and has been made before about how righteous and godly he is. I SURE DON'T SEE IT 

[baldo]

Hey,, I am a Christian and agree with Serk 100%. That is why I voted for him. Had nothing to do with being Christlike. It had to do with the Democrats being so far out that I could not possible vote for one of them.

I get that. I doubt anybody (or very few) vote based on morality. But.....the comment was, and has been made before about how righteous and godly he is. I SURE DON'T SEE IT 

Me either. I am absolutely amazed at how some people see him.