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Hand on my heart I just checked and it's there on my Samsung.
When some were having "phone disruptions" earlier this week, they were adding COVID-19 Trackers to our phones. ..if you have an Android phone, go under Settings, then GOOGLE settings and it's there.. If you have an IPhone, go to settings, privacy then health.
Then download an app from your local health service.
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« Reply #1766 on: June 19, 2020, 02:48:13 PM » |
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Hand on my heart I just checked and it's there on my Samsung.
When some were having "phone disruptions" earlier this week, they were adding COVID-19 Trackers to our phones. ..if you have an Android phone, go under Settings, then GOOGLE settings and it's there.. If you have an IPhone, go to settings, privacy then health.
Then download an app from your local health service.
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They didn't sneak it in during the outages, it's been there since the last OS update.
What you're seeing is just the OS side part, without installing a contact and trace app to go with it it does nothing.
And once said app is available, I'll be installing it. You do you.
They've taken great pains to make the system workable but NOT tracking your name, location etc...
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They didn't sneak it in during the outages, it's been there since the last OS update.
What you're seeing is just the OS side part, without installing a contact and trace app to go with it it does nothing.
And once said app is available, I'll be installing it. You do you.
They've taken great pains to make the system workable but NOT tracking your name, location etc...
are you 100% sure the app does not track your name, location, etc? why would you want to install this app and how does it really work to be effective? Doesn't all the cell phone users on your phones contacts have to install it as well or how does it work? Does all the people who have tested positive for covid 19 have to give out their cell phone number and if their cell phone number is on your cell phone, the app says so and so has it? reason why I ask is my daughter just found out her boyfriends younger brother just tested positive for covid 19 and now my daughter is sick running a fever age 22 now. I told her, even though she has not been exposed to him in past 1 month, that maybe he had contact with his parents who I would think since living in same city has visited them at their place the past month, and go get tested cannot hurt. 1st one I know of testing and testing positive for it in his early 20s. My daughter is already paranoid enough over this since she is now working at a daycare facility for her job this summer and dealing with 2-6 or so year old kids. |
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why would you want to install this app and how does it really work to be effective?
Yes. It doesn't use GPS or other geo location data, it doesn't use your contact list, or anything like that. Your phone generates a random number every 15 or so minutes and broadcasts that number so that other phones near you running the app can "hear" it, and combine their random number for that time period with your random number for that time period. Your phone does know what numbers it has at what time, and what other numbers it "heard". If you test positive, you tell the app that you tested positive, and that allows other phones to query the list of recent positives, combine their random number with yours to find out if you were close to that person for a set amount of time (Just passing in the grocery store won't be enough) within the last 2 weeks, and thus if you should pay extra attention, possibly get tested. That's all it does. Slightly deeper dive if you're interested: https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-contact-tracing-apple-google/ |
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why would you want to install this app and how does it really work to be effective?
Yes. It doesn't use GPS or other geo location data, it doesn't use your contact list, or anything like that. Your phone generates a random number every 15 or so minutes and broadcasts that number so that other phones near you running the app can "hear" it, and combine their random number for that time period with your random number for that time period. Your phone does know what numbers it has at what time, and what other numbers it "heard". If you test positive, you tell the app that you tested positive, and that allows other phones to query the list of recent positives, combine their random number with yours to find out if you were close to that person for a set amount of time (Just passing in the grocery store won't be enough) within the last 2 weeks, and thus if you should pay extra attention, possibly get tested. That's all it does. Slightly deeper dive if you're interested: https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-contact-tracing-apple-google/Do think the backend engine is distributed,or are they going to be running it on something big and expensive (like a Mainframe / supercomputer ) ? |
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Do think the backend engine is distributed,or are they going to be running it on something big and expensive (like a Mainframe / supercomputer ) ?
The back end appears to be super simple, wouldn't require any big hardware to do. Just keep a list of numbers with date and time, purge the list once it's over 14 days old. If the numbers match when you do a lookup, let you know a binary yes they match or no they don't. And since it's going to be run by state agencies, not a central or federal one (The API's on your phones just provide the framework for it to work, the actual implementation would be done and administered most likely by your state's health authority) it would only be as big as needed for your state. I'd think a few basic Linux or Windows VMs running whatever flavor of SQL they choose could handle it quite easily... |
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The back end appears to be super simple, wouldn't require any big hardware to do. Just keep a list of numbers with date and time, purge the list once it's over 14 days old. If the numbers match when you do a lookup, let you know a binary yes they match or no they don't. And since it's going to be run by state agencies, not a central or federal one (The API's on your phones just provide the framework for it to work, the actual implementation would be done and administered most likely by your state's health authority) it would only be as big as needed for your state. I'd think a few basic Linux or Windows VMs running whatever flavor of SQL they choose could handle it quite easily... oh, the format of the datamatching won't be so hard - I'm more concerned about the sheer volume (especially in the bigger states) and getting the notifications out in a timely manner. There is also the issue of what about if the phone is from "out of state " . Yes, I used to work in IT. |
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The back end appears to be super simple, wouldn't require any big hardware to do. Just keep a list of numbers with date and time, purge the list once it's over 14 days old. If the numbers match when you do a lookup, let you know a binary yes they match or no they don't. And since it's going to be run by state agencies, not a central or federal one (The API's on your phones just provide the framework for it to work, the actual implementation would be done and administered most likely by your state's health authority) it would only be as big as needed for your state. I'd think a few basic Linux or Windows VMs running whatever flavor of SQL they choose could handle it quite easily... oh, the format of the datamatching won't be so hard - I'm more concerned about the sheer volume (especially in the bigger states) and getting the notifications out in a timely manner. There is also the issue of what about if the phone is from "out of state " . Yes, I used to work in IT. From my understanding it won't be a pushed based notification system, it'll be a query based one.... I.E. You and/or your device will have to initiate a query to see if your number matches any positive numbers. Yeah, there'll be a lot of data going through the system, but a mid range modern database system should be able to hand it quite easily IMHO... (But I'm more in the implementation side, not the design side, so I could be way off base here.) |
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just swap testing which means nothing. per fda and cdc could me any bacteria, only blood test confirms c19. all of these new cases , nobody is sick, nobody is going to the hospital. purely political. I have two relatives in NJ assisted living home. one is 88 and the other 91. state has now been there four times with the swaps, all residents 100+ have tested positive ALL FOUR TIMES tested over the past month. NOBODY IS SICK. AND THE TYRANT MURPHY KEEPS CRYING ABOUT INCREASES CASES. |
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Here's some food for thought.
Of the reported cases and deaths worldwide the U.S. accounts for 25% of each despite the U.S. only holding 05% of the world's population. Within the U.S. New York City accounts for 25% of the COVID-19 deaths despite its holding only 02.5% of the U.S. population.
Does anyone else have some problems working out the why of these stats? The old saying is that statistics don't lie but liars use statistics.
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Here's some food for thought.
Of the reported cases and deaths worldwide the U.S. accounts for 25% of each despite the U.S. only holding 05% of the world's population. Within the U.S. New York City accounts for 25% of the COVID-19 deaths despite its holding only 02.5% of the U.S. population.
Does anyone else have some problems working out the why of these stats? The old saying is that statistics don't lie but liars use statistics.
It's food for thought because it will take a good amount of thought to put these stats where they belong.
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Figures don't lie but liars figure is how I've heard it... Not saying the elderly and infirm aren't worth protecting, they are, but it seems if we'd fortified out nursing homes and long term care facilities instead of actively forcing the places that house our most vulnerable, we'd have had a much lower death count from this scourge... "Nursing homes site of 40% of US COVID-19 deaths" https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/nursing-homes-site-40-us-covid-19-deaths |
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Figures don't lie but liars figure is how I've heard it... Not saying the elderly and infirm aren't worth protecting, they are, but it seems if we'd fortified out nursing homes and long term care facilities instead of actively forcing the places that house our most vulnerable, we'd have had a much lower death count from this scourge... "Nursing homes site of 40% of US COVID-19 deaths" https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/nursing-homes-site-40-us-covid-19-deathsWhere are the other 60% coming from? |
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Not saying the elderly and infirm aren't worth protecting, they are, but it seems if we'd fortified out nursing homes and long term care facilities instead of actively forcing the places that house our most vulnerable, we'd have had a much lower death count from this scourge...
"Nursing homes site of 40% of US COVID-19 deaths" Let's protect our elderly. Interestingly the number of deaths from heart attack and stroke have decreased during this COVID-19 period. Do you wonder what that means? The highest death rate by age is something like 18.4% for 80 - 85. That means even in the highest risk category one holds a more than 80% chance of surviving. Do you wonder if that fits with what we're being fed? The point with the over 40% of the deaths occurred within nursing homes is that the shut down damaging the economy and culture did nothing to protect that 40%. Do you wonder if we're really doing the right things? |
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I have no idea (well I do and will comment on that at the end) where the "increased" death numbers are coming from. You can look at the CDC website below for the death count (Yes I know the CDC). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmIt shows a steady decrease in deaths from April 18th onward. So, why all the hubbub? Because they want you to be afraid. Its fear, and fear stifles us. Its meant to control. The numbers do not support increased deaths as posted by the news media. |
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Do you wonder if we're really doing the right things?
I do. I'm sure Governors'in Texas, Arizona, Utah and a good handful of other states with surging numbers are wondering as well. Since a couple weeks can pass before they have a clear picture of hospitalizations resulting from today's infections and considering deaths always lag behind infections, they're probably a tad stressed about how their decisions will pan out. I'm glad I don't have that responsibility in our current political clusterf*&k. |
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CDC: ANTIBODY TESTING SHOWS THERE HAS BEEN 10 TIMES MORE COVID CASES IN THE U.S. THAN REPORTED, MOSTLY ASYMPTOMATIC by Kevin Ryan CDC Director Robert Redfield says that the actual number of Americans who've been infected with COVID-19 may be ten times higher than reported because of so many symptomatic cases going unnoticed. “Our best estimate right now is that for every case that's reported, there actually are 10 other infections,” CDC director Dr. Robert Redfield said on a call with reporters. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-says-covid-19-cases-u-s-may-be-10-n1232134 |
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I don't think I would. (I don't like hospitals, or their massive billings)
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More testing - more confirmed cases. Number of confirmed cases means nothing. Number of deaths may mean something but those numbers too are not accurate.
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Number of hospitalizations in states like Texas are telling and not comforting. Especially when I see more Texas plates in my little town right now than Colorado plates. Strangely enough, infections precede hospitalizations. Hospitalizations precede deaths -- hopefully less deaths since the age demographic of those filling hospitals is younger now. Note article above re: Texas Governor Abbott curbing elective surgeries again.
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"Increased testing does not explain away these numbers. Other data points make clear that we’re seeing a worsening outbreak, not simply getting better data.
Seven states, including Arizona, have set records for the number of people hospitalized with coronavirus, and the percentage of all tests that come back positive is also increasing".
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I have looked and looked and I cannot find CDC data (yes I know CDC but I have to have a "benchmark" that can be used) on the number of hospitlazitions for COVID-19 through today. The last update I can find on the CDC website is for June 13th and it has been going down since the first of May. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_5.htmlCDC (Yes I know) data clearly shows that the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases has been fairly flat since May. It fluctuates but its basically a flat line if you wish to draw an single line. Scroll down in the link below to see the data. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.htmlDeaths from COVID-19 peaked in mid April (see link below). Last reported death number for the week of June 20th was 371 and for June 13th it was 1,943. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmThe interesting thing is that the deaths from all causes has been flat though the end of May 2020 and is now showing a downward trend. |
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Though younger, asymptomatic individuals are at lower risk of complications and death from COVID-19, they pose a risk of “unwittingly” transmitting the virus to elders and those with underlying medical conditions, Redfield said.
He said the agency will continue to do “fairly extensive” surveillance nationwide through antibody testing".
The number of deaths from COVID-19, per reporting period, is down to a really low level.
That is good. Asymptomatic people are helping breed the immunity we need until we get a reliable vaccine.
It has been said many, many, times, if you are in the high risk category you need to be aware of your surroundings, where you go, who you are with, ect. AND TAKE PRECAUTIONS.
The concept of "great concern to lawmakers" makes me laugh. We don't need laws, or decrees, or exclusion zones. Law makers are useless for this pandemic. We have enough laws on the books, no more are needed.
I find it interesting that New York wants to "quarantine" visitors from "high risk states (South Carolina being one of them). How would they do that? Send them to a nursing home? Make them wait in the park.
it is all about the election. Don't doubt me on this. Its all about finding a way to defeat Trump in November.
Just for the record, we have yet to reach a population adjusted death rate for COVID-19 as compared to the Hong Kong Flu of 1968-1969. To make the two Pandemics equal would require that the deaths from COVID-19 to exceed 180,000. Right now that number is at about 120,000 and declining rapidly.
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« Reply #1798 on: June 25, 2020, 02:32:31 PM » |
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The last update I can find on the CDC website is for June 13th and it has been going down since the first of May.
Guess that would depend on what part of our country you're looking at. C19 creeps into each state and county at its own leisure. It's kicking the Sunbelt states pretty good right now. Single day case high in several of those state states today. Cases rising in 29 states. Hospitalizations up. The numbers that matter right now are those currently experienced in the affected states' hospitals. |
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« Reply #1799 on: June 25, 2020, 02:49:03 PM » |
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An Observation: Have you noticed how the the American News Cycle has turned into an enormous whipsaw? First, it was 24-hour a day shouting from the rooftops: “Pandemic! Social Distancing is crucial! The sky is falling!” Then, just as the case numbers started to fall, the mainstream media turned on a dime to: “Mass protests! No need for Social Distancing, because, well, because, well just because we said so.” Then, the protests and riots died down. So they pivoted back to: “Pandemic! Social Distancing is crucial! The sky is falling!” I think I know what might be the next stroke of the whipsaw… Memorize this phrase: “Never get involved in a land war in Asia.” Do they really think that the American can’t see through their smokescreen? – JWR
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