Coronavirus $hit be getting real

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https://news.trust.org/item/20200327214859-ttfb5


Finland blocks roads to Helsinki to curb coronavirus spread

[98valk]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

[98valk]

well, well, changing of tunes after the bankrupt states got their bailout monies, the passing of a trillion dollar bailout, certain party members of congress got their extra slush funds including a raise for all of congress, many civil liberties are gone some will not come back, powers to be know how much that can get away with and that american people will/can be easily manipulated with fear,

https://www.oann.com/dr-anthony-fauci-backtracks-on-deadliness-of-virus/
UPDATED 7:00 PM PT — Friday, March 27, 2020

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the health specialist on the coronavirus task force, has said the virus’s mortality rate is closer to that of a bad case of the flu. In a Thursday report published by the New England Journal of Medicine, Fauci conceded COVID-19’s death rate was twice that of the common flu, making it roughly 0.28 percent.

That rate is exceptionally low, especially when compared to that of the SARS and MERS epidemics, which peaked at 9 percent and 36 percent respectively.

His latest comments marked a major about-face for Fauci, who previously claimed the coronavirus was 10 times as deadly as the flu.


remember his political background. look up his wife also.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/anthony_fauci_the_nihs_face_of_the_coronavirus_is_a_deepstate_hillary_clintonloving_stooge.html#.XnYO5Z8RvOg.facebook

[Valkorado]

If the death rate is only twice that of the common flu, we have no vaccine and it becomes endemic as predicted this virus is going to be a real long-term nemesis.   Like I've said many times,  it's nothing to be scoffed at.

Maybe we should wait at least until the curve is well on its way down before we decide how badly we've been spanked.   Until then,  doing what we're told in terms of social distancing,  etc.  seems prudent to me.

[98valk]

If the death rate is twice that of the common flu, we have no vaccine and it becomes endemic as predicted this virus is going to be a real long-term nemesis.   Like I've said many times,  it's nothing to be scoffed at.

That rate is exceptionally low, especially when compared to that of the SARS and MERS epidemics, which peaked at 9 percent and 36 percent respectively.

[Valkorado]

If the death rate is twice that of the common flu, we have no vaccine and it becomes endemic as predicted this virus is going to be a real long-term nemesis.   Like I've said many times,  it's nothing to be scoffed at.

That rate is exceptionally low, especially when compared to that of the SARS and MERS epidemics, which peaked at 9 percent and 36 percent respectively.

MERS infected 2519 and killed 866 people GLOBALLY.   SARS infected 8000 and killed 800 GLOBALLY.   Try again 98.

[3fan4life]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 1.6%


The Spanish Flu pandemic resulted in:

In the U.S., about 28% of the population of 105 million became infected (29.4 million), and 500,000 to 675,000 died (0.48 to 0.64 percent of the population).

This translates into a mortality rate of  1.7 to 2.2%

The current US population is estimated at apx 327 million.

To equal the 28% that were infected by the Spanish Flu in 1918, 91.5 million people would have to contract Covid 19 in the US.

To equal the 1.7% mortality rate 1,555,500 people would have to die and 2,013,300 people to equal the 2.2%


I could be wrong but I just don't see the #'s for Covid 19 rising that high.


Italy has the highest mortality rate so far @ 10%

9,134 deaths / 86,498 confirmed cases = 0.10

This is far from the 0.48-0.64 of the 1918 Spanish Flu.


The medical system here in the US is far better than Italy's.

Yes the total number of infections and the total # of deaths will continue to increase, it is inevitable.

But, I don't believe that the US mortality rate will even come close that of Italy's.


I'm not trying to minimize the the value of the lives that will be lost to this disease.

I am saying that the #'s don't support the level of panic that we are seeing and certainly don't support the level of panic that the MSM would like for us to have.

Everyone, should certainly be more careful when out in public.

Covid 19 is serious, especially for those in the high risk groups.

But, it is preventable.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/prevention.html


The MSM would like us to believe that 100% of the population is going to catch it and that at least 50% of those who catch it will die.

The highest mortality rate is in those over 80 yrs old @ 20-22%

Mortality in those Age 70-80 is 7.2%

So, while much worse than the average mortality rate, even in the high risk groups the mortality rate isn't near what the MSM would have us to believe.  


Many of us here are older.

So, take this seriously and do what you can to protect yourself from it.

But, don't panic.

As Hubcaps said he was told: "Wash your hands instead of wringing them".
  

[Valkorado]

Food for thought.

From what you are observing,  has the  "lower" death rate made things easier for hospital staff who are struggling to save lives in understaffed and underequipped hospitals?  I just heard a person is dying from the virus in NY every 17 minutes.  

I agree about statistics.   We are amidst a pandemic and they change every day.   You just can't put a finger on them yet.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/821958435/why-death-rates-from-coronavirus-can-be-deceiving

Maybe we should get through the crisis first and then spend a good deal of time analyzing the numbers...   Any rational person would agree the resultant numbers aren't "good".

[The emperor has no clothes]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 0.016%



  

Wouldn't that make the mortality rate 1.6% ?

[f6gal]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 0.016%


The Spanish Flu pandemic resulted in:

In the U.S., about 28% of the population of 105 million became infected (29.4 million), and 500,000 to 675,000 died (0.48 to 0.64 percent of the population).

The current US population is estimated at apx 327 million.

To equal the 28% that were infected by the Spanish Flu in 1918, 91.5 million people would have to contract Covid 19 in the US.

To equal the 0.48% mortality rate 439,200 people would have to die and 585,600 people to equal the 0.64%


I could be wrong but I just don't see the #'s for Covid 19 rising that high.


Italy has the highest mortality rate so far @ 0.10%

9,134 deaths / 86,498 confirmed cases = 0.10

This is far from the 0.48-0.64 of the 1918 Spanish Flu.


The medical system here in the US is far better than Italy's.

Yes the total number of infections and the total # of deaths will continue to increase, it is inevitable.

But, I don't believe that the US mortality rate will even come close that of Italy's.


I'm not trying to minimize the the value of the lives that will be lost to this disease.

I am saying that the #'s don't support the level of panic that we are seeing and certainly don't support the level of panic that the MSM would like for us to have.

Everyone, should certainly be more careful when out in public.

Covid 19 is serious, especially for those in the high risk groups.

But, it is preventable.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/prevention.html


The MSM would like us to believe that 100% of the population is going to catch it and that at least 50% of those who catch it will die.

The highest mortality rate is in those over 80 yrs old @ 20-22%

Mortality in those Age 70-80 is 7.2%

So, while much worse than the average mortality rate, even in the high risk groups the mortality rate isn't near what the MSM would have us to believe.  


Many of us here are older.

So, take this seriously and do what you can to protect yourself from it.

But, don't panic.

As Hubcaps said he was told: "Wash your hands instead of wringing them".
  

There are decimal point errors in some of your percentage numbers.  
For instance from your numbers above, mathematically, Italy is 10.6%; US 1.64%

[3fan4life]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 0.016%



  

Wouldn't that make the mortality rate 1.6% ?

So, I'm not a mathematician.

[F6Dave]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 0.016%



  

Wouldn't that make the mortality rate 1.6% ?

Yes, it's 1.6%.  Probably lower because so few without symptoms have been tested.  If it wasn't so contagious 1.6% might be manageable, but it's spreading like wildfire.

[Valkorado]

1.6% sucks!  Let's hope that changes for the better.

[3fan4life]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 0.016%


The Spanish Flu pandemic resulted in:

In the U.S., about 28% of the population of 105 million became infected (29.4 million), and 500,000 to 675,000 died (0.48 to 0.64 percent of the population).

The current US population is estimated at apx 327 million.

To equal the 28% that were infected by the Spanish Flu in 1918, 91.5 million people would have to contract Covid 19 in the US.

To equal the 0.48% mortality rate 439,200 people would have to die and 585,600 people to equal the 0.64%


I could be wrong but I just don't see the #'s for Covid 19 rising that high.


Italy has the highest mortality rate so far @ 0.10%

9,134 deaths / 86,498 confirmed cases = 0.10

This is far from the 0.48-0.64 of the 1918 Spanish Flu.


The medical system here in the US is far better than Italy's.

Yes the total number of infections and the total # of deaths will continue to increase, it is inevitable.

But, I don't believe that the US mortality rate will even come close that of Italy's.


I'm not trying to minimize the the value of the lives that will be lost to this disease.

I am saying that the #'s don't support the level of panic that we are seeing and certainly don't support the level of panic that the MSM would like for us to have.

Everyone, should certainly be more careful when out in public.

Covid 19 is serious, especially for those in the high risk groups.

But, it is preventable.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/prevention.html


The MSM would like us to believe that 100% of the population is going to catch it and that at least 50% of those who catch it will die.

The highest mortality rate is in those over 80 yrs old @ 20-22%

Mortality in those Age 70-80 is 7.2%

So, while much worse than the average mortality rate, even in the high risk groups the mortality rate isn't near what the MSM would have us to believe.  


Many of us here are older.

So, take this seriously and do what you can to protect yourself from it.

But, don't panic.

As Hubcaps said he was told: "Wash your hands instead of wringing them".
  

There are decimal point errors in some of your percentage numbers.  
For instance from your numbers above, mathematically, Italy is 10.6%; US 1.64%

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 1.6%


The Spanish Flu pandemic resulted in:

In the U.S., about 28% of the population of 105 million became infected (29.4 million), and 500,000 to 675,000 died (0.48 to 0.64 percent of the population).

This translates into a mortality rate of  1.7 to 2.2%

The current US population is estimated at apx 327 million.

To equal the 28% that were infected by the Spanish Flu in 1918, 91.5 million people would have to contract Covid 19 in the US.

To equal the 1.7% mortality rate 1,555,500 people would have to die and 2,013,300 people to equal the 2.2%


I could be wrong but I just don't see the #'s for Covid 19 rising that high.


Italy has the highest mortality rate so far @ 10%

9,134 deaths / 86,498 confirmed cases = 0.10

This is far from the 0.48-0.64 of the 1918 Spanish Flu.


The medical system here in the US is far better than Italy's.

Yes the total number of infections and the total # of deaths will continue to increase, it is inevitable.

But, I don't believe that the US mortality rate will even come close that of Italy's.


I'm not trying to minimize the the value of the lives that will be lost to this disease.

I am saying that the #'s don't support the level of panic that we are seeing and certainly don't support the level of panic that the MSM would like for us to have.

Everyone, should certainly be more careful when out in public.

Covid 19 is serious, especially for those in the high risk groups.

But, it is preventable.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/prevention.html


The MSM would like us to believe that 100% of the population is going to catch it and that at least 50% of those who catch it will die.

The highest mortality rate is in those over 80 yrs old @ 20-22%

Mortality in those Age 70-80 is 7.2%

So, while much worse than the average mortality rate, even in the high risk groups the mortality rate isn't near what the MSM would have us to believe.  


Many of us here are older.

So, take this seriously and do what you can to protect yourself from it.

But, don't panic.

As Hubcaps said he was told: "Wash your hands instead of wringing them".
  

I think that the 0.48-0.64 numbers from Wikepedia helped me make my mathematical errors.

Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels.

[Valkorado]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!   

[3fan4life]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

The problem with statistics is that they can be easily skewed to whatever the person compiling them wants them to say.

Your link points this out very well.

Anytime statistics are quoted without comparing Apples to Apples the numbers are going to be inaccurate.

At this time the total # of confirmed cases in the US is: 104,871

The total # of deaths so far : 1716

Simple math: 1716 / 104,871 = 0.016

This puts the current mortality rate @ 0.016%



  

Wouldn't that make the mortality rate 1.6% ?

Yes, it's 1.6%.  Probably lower because so few without symptoms have been tested.  If it wasn't so contagious 1.6% might be manageable, but it's spreading like wildfire.

1.6% is the current US mortality rate.

That means that the average person currently has a 98.4% chance of survival.

[3fan4life]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!   

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would say they don't stand a chance at rising to the 1918 levels. For one, our healthcare is miles ahead these days. Two, we understand the importance of hygiene more so than they did back then.

[Serk]

I would say they don't stand a chance at rising to the 1918 levels. For one, our healthcare is miles ahead these days. Two, we understand the importance of hygiene more so than they did back then.

3 we're not in the midst of a World War (At least not yet, let's hope it stays that way), with all the effort, people moving about, folks living in wet trenches, etc...

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would say they don't stand a chance at rising to the 1918 levels. For one, our healthcare is miles ahead these days. Two, we understand the importance of hygiene more so than they did back then.

3 we're not in the midst of a World War (At least not yet, let's hope it stays that way), with all the effort, people moving about, folks living in wet trenches, etc...

Very true 

[Valkorado]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!   

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

[Willow]

Yes, it's 1.6%.  Probably lower because so few without symptoms have been tested.  If it wasn't so contagious 1.6% might be manageable, but it's spreading like wildfire.

Yes, it is definitely lower.  Many who have less than severe cases or are under 60 are not tested so the number of total cases in the U.S. is greatly understated.

I've a friend who was told she probably has it and given instructions to care for herself at home.  They wouldn't test her because she is under sixty years old.

All the deaths are counted.  Many of the infected cases are not.  That makes the percent of deaths per cases highly overstated percentage wise.

As the chances at this time of any one person is much, much less than 1 in 500 the panic is over hyped.  Care does need to be taken.  It's not an insignificant event.  It is not, however, as severe as we are being told and as we are reacting to.

We need to be taking precautions.  Wash our hands more often especially after touching something or someone outside our own circle.  We need to discipline ourselves to keep our hands away from our mouths, noses, and eyes.  We probably should avoid gatherings of people in close proximity.  The six feet rule is to avoid breathing someone else's sneeze or cough.  It certainly needn't apply universally.  It's not a threat that justifies destroying our economy and social structures.

[Willow]

1.6% is the current US mortality rate.

That means that the average person currently has a 98.4% chance of survival.

That should be stated that 98.4% of people who contract the virus will survive.  As the percentage of those who are catching the virus is a very small percentage of the population the average person has a 99.995 percent chance of surviving this pandemic.

[Willow]

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

Making was probably too strong.  Contributing to might be more accurate.

I know you are scared to death (hopefully not) of this thing and the stories around you intensify that view.  We need a sane voice for the public at large but the media is making that very difficult.

You stated earlir that you do not believe this pandemic is political.  I agree.  The pushed panic over this pandemic is however highly political.

It has become a very complex situation in which no one can win.

[Valkorado]

Well, heck,  I guess we all agree the virus isn't good.   We differ on whether it's a little not good, fairly not good,  pretty not good, really not good,  or extremely not good!

I'm glad we're all in agreeance on the fundamental issue!      

[Valkorado]

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

Making was probably too strong.  Contributing to might be more accurate.

I know you are scared to death (hopefully not) of this thing and the stories around you intensify that view.  We need a sane voice for the public at large but the media is making that very difficult.

You stated earlir that you do not believe this pandemic is political.  I agree.  The pushed panic over this pandemic is however highly political.

It has become a very complex situation in which no one can win.

Scared to death?  You're a funny guy.

[Valkorado]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-mulls-imposing-coronavirus-quarantine-on-new-york-new-jersey-connecticut

Trump mulls coronavirus quarantine on New York, New Jersey, Connecticut

Federal Level Quarantine.  Potentially.  No big deal.  Really.   

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[f6gal]

Yes, it's 1.6%.  Probably lower because so few without symptoms have been tested.  If it wasn't so contagious 1.6% might be manageable, but it's spreading like wildfire.

Yes, it is definitely lower.  Many who have less than severe cases or are under 60 are not tested so the number of total cases in the U.S. is greatly understated.

I agree that the U.S. cases are greatly understated.  However, IMHO, cases in some other countries are even more understated.  I seriously doubt that we have surpassed China in number of cases.  Due to deception and faulty test kits (giving false negatives) their numbers are far from reliable.  They also sent those faulty test kits to other countries.  As far as Italy, I think their death percentage is highly overstated, due to understated number of cases.

[Valkorado]

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

Making was probably too strong.  Contributing to might be more accurate.

I know you are scared to death (hopefully not) of this thing and the stories around you intensify that view.  We need a sane voice for the public at large but the media is making that very difficult.

You stated earlir that you do not believe this pandemic is political.  I agree.  The pushed panic over this pandemic is however highly political.

It has become a very complex situation in which no one can win.

Wow!  The pandemic has created a situation no one can win.  Imagine that!  That's what pandemics do.  They disrupt.  They disrupt political systems, health systems, supply chains, economies -- globally!

Like it or not!

[3fan4life]

Food for thought.

From what you are observing,  has the  "lower" death rate made things easier for hospital staff who are struggling to save lives in understaffed and underequipped hospitals?  I just heard a person is dying from the virus in NY every 17 minutes.  

I agree about statistics.   We are amidst a pandemic and they change every day.   You just can't put a finger on them yet.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/821958435/why-death-rates-from-coronavirus-can-be-deceiving

Maybe we should get through the crisis first and then spend a good deal of time analyzing the numbers...   Any rational person would agree the resultant numbers aren't "good".

I don't know.

I do know that most medical systems in the country are weathering this just fine at the moment.

At present our region (population of apx 200,000) has 9 confirmed cases with only 1 person hospitalized.


Virginia as a whole has 739 confirmed cases with 99 persons hospitalized.

These numbers are easily manageable.


NY is the hardest hit with almost 53,000 cases.

NYC has the most confirmed cases with a little more than 29,000 confirmed cases.

As of Thursday 5,327 of were hospitalized due to Corona Virus in New York State (apx 10%).

I can't find anything stating how many of those are in NYC.

NYC currently has 54% of the confirmed cases in New York state.

If they also have 54% of the hospitalizations then apx 2,800 people are hospitalized in NYC.

A quick search for NYC Hospital Beds: https://profiles.health.ny.gov/hospital/bed_type/Total+Beds

Bellevue 912 beds
Bronxcare 415 beds
Brookdale 530 beds
Brooklyn hosp 464 beds
Coney Island hosp 371 beds
Elmhurst hosp 545 beds


I don't know exactly how many hospital beds are available in the NYC area, but these alone total more than 3,200

Obviously, the more concentrated the population of an area the harder it's going to be hit in terms of total numbers and hospitalizations.


Staffing in US hospitals are always low even in the best of times.

Our system has a plan in place to utilize medical staff who normally work in areas that are shut down or running at a reduced capacity in other areas as the need arises.

Surely, the hospital systems in the larger cities are doing the same.

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Food for thought.

From what you are observing,  has the  "lower" death rate made things easier for hospital staff who are struggling to save lives in understaffed and underequipped hospitals?  I just heard a person is dying from the virus in NY every 17 minutes.  

I agree about statistics.   We are amidst a pandemic and they change every day.   You just can't put a finger on them yet.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/821958435/why-death-rates-from-coronavirus-can-be-deceiving

Maybe we should get through the crisis first and then spend a good deal of time analyzing the numbers...   Any rational person would agree the resultant numbers aren't "good".

I don't know.

I do know that most medical systems in the country are weathering this just fine at the moment.

At present our region (population of apx 200,000) has 9 confirmed cases with only 1 person hospitalized.


Virginia as a whole has 739 confirmed cases with 99 persons hospitalized.

These numbers are easily manageable.


NY is the hardest hit with almost 53,000 cases.

NYC has the most confirmed cases with a little more than 29,000 confirmed cases.

As of Thursday 5,327 of were hospitalized due to Corona Virus in New York State (apx 10%).

I can't find anything stating how many of those are in NYC.

NYC currently has 54% of the confirmed cases in New York state.

If they also have 54% of the hospitalizations then apx 2,800 people are hospitalized in NYC.

A quick search for NYC Hospital Beds: https://profiles.health.ny.gov/hospital/bed_type/Total+Beds

Bellevue 912 beds
Bronxcare 415 beds
Brookdale 530 beds
Brooklyn hosp 464 beds
Coney Island hosp 371 beds
Elmhurst hosp 545 beds


I don't know exactly how many hospital beds are available in the NYC area, but these alone total more than 3,200

Obviously, the more concentrated the population of an area the harder it's going to be hit in terms of total numbers and hospitalizations.


Staffing in US hospitals are always low even in the best of times.

Our system has a plan in place to utilize medical staff who normally work in areas that are shut down or running at a reduced capacity in other areas as the need arises.

Surely, the hospital systems in the larger cities are doing the same.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8161729/Shocking-video-shows-medical-worker-asking-sickest-patient-overcrowded-NYC-ER.html

[Valkorado]

You do realize hospitals are being built, new wings and additions are being added, hotels being acquired, temporary care units being whipped up, etc.?

For better or worse.  I hope with all my heart for better.  I hope they will go unneeded and unused.  But do you think they're doing this for the hell of it?

[3fan4life]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!   

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

That's certainly not the position that you are projecting.

I certainly don't know you well.

I'm not even certain that we have ever met.

So, all that I can do is respond to the vibe that I am getting from your posts.

That "vibe" has given me a picture of someone that is just a few steps away from locking themselves into an underground bunker.

[Valkorado]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!    

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

That's certainly not the position that you are projecting.

I certainly don't know you well.

I'm not even certain that we have ever met.

So, all that I can do is respond to the vibe that I am getting from your posts.

That "vibe" has given me a picture of someone that is just a few steps away from locking themselves into an underground bunker.

Me?  I'm just doing what the CDC recommends in our locked down state and locked TIGHT county.  What are you doing?  I hope you are also following the directives laid out by thec CDC for your specific area.  If so, thanks dude!

BTW, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any of my posts on this subject in which I've said the worst case scenario is unfolding.  To the contrary, from the start I said I do not believe this one is Captain Trips.  I am certainly not afraid.  But I'm not  blind like a Chinese bat, either.

[3fan4life]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!   

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

That's certainly not the position that you are projecting.

I certainly don't know you well.

I'm not even certain that we have ever met.

So, all that I can do is respond to the vibe that I am getting from your posts.

That "vibe" has given me a picture of someone that is just a few steps away from locking themselves into an underground bunker.

Me?  I'm just doing what the CDC recommends in our locked down state and locked TIGHT county.  What are you doing?  I hope you are also following the directives laid out by thec CDC for your specific area.  If so, thanks dude!

I'm about to get on a Valk and go for a ride.

I'll wash my hands after getting gas and I won't lick any toilet seats.

Other than that I plan to enjoy some much needed wind therapy.

[..]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!   

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

That's certainly not the position that you are projecting.

I certainly don't know you well.

I'm not even certain that we have ever met.

So, all that I can do is respond to the vibe that I am getting from your posts.

That "vibe" has given me a picture of someone that is just a few steps away from locking themselves into an underground bunker.

Me?  I'm just doing what the CDC recommends in our locked down state and locked TIGHT county.  What are you doing?  I hope you are also following the directives laid out by thec CDC for your specific area.  If so, thanks dude!

I'm about to get on a Valk and go for a ride.

I'll wash my hands after getting gas and I won't lick any toilet seats.

Other than that I plan to enjoy some much needed wind therapy.

Will you wash your hands again after turning off the faucets and using the door?

[Valkorado]

Quote:

"Even with them fixed, I still don't see our total numbers rising to the 1918 Spanish Flu levels".

Well that's reassuring!    

Why are you so insistent upon making people panic?

Making people panic?   Look, if I am making people panic,  they need to put on their big guy and gal pants or go find a safe space.   We've been involved in a discussion.   I do not poo-poo the virus as some others do.   I have no idea how it will unfold,  but I seriously doubt it will be a worst case scenario.

That's certainly not the position that you are projecting.

I certainly don't know you well.

I'm not even certain that we have ever met.

So, all that I can do is respond to the vibe that I am getting from your posts.

That "vibe" has given me a picture of someone that is just a few steps away from locking themselves into an underground bunker.

Me?  I'm just doing what the CDC recommends in our locked down state and locked TIGHT county.  What are you doing?  I hope you are also following the directives laid out by thec CDC for your specific area.  If so, thanks dude!

I'm about to get on a Valk and go for a ride.

I'll wash my hands after getting gas and I won't lick any toilet seats.

Other than that I plan to enjoy some much needed wind therapy.

Good on you!  We are prohibited, by law, from doing that in our neck of the woods right now.  Too cold anyway. 
Good call on resisting the toilet seat lickin', too!   

[F6Dave]

Other than that I plan to enjoy some much needed wind therapy.

Good on you!  We are prohibited, by law, from doing that in our neck of the woods right now.  Too cold anyway.

When it warms up next week you could take the Valk on an essential trip, like grocery shopping.  I read the executive order and here in Colorado lot's of trips are deemed 'essential', even shopping at the marijuana store.

[Valkorado]

  Guess all is right as rain, then!

Next week is my target FROTY!  I think it's essential that I get out fora quick red line to blow the carbs out!  Hope I can sneak out to my favorite flat stretches without causing much suspicion!