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Author Topic: LED headlights for the I/S.  (Read 2198 times)
John Schmidt
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« on: January 08, 2021, 07:55:21 PM »

Also for the fog lights, anybody know what or where they are? What source, model, p/n...etc. Still in the process of making the trike "mine" and this is just one of many items on that list; LED headlights and LED fog lights mounted in the pods.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 08:17:04 PM »

Rainmaker hooked me up with these for the pod lights. They work good. They aren't terribly bright, but then neither were the regular bulbs.
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/miniature-and-subminiature-bulbs/h3-led-daytime-running-light-bulb-with-focusing-lens-400-lumens/5534/12490/?utm_campaign=Child+-+Organic+Shopping&utm_source=LED+Light+Bulbs+-+Universal+Finder+%3E+Miniature&utm_medium=H3-W14&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-vrljf6N7gIVmSCtBh2yrwpvEAQYASABEgJK2fD_BwE

Valkorado has a good setup for the headlights. I haven't went to them yet, and I can't remember which ones they were. I'm sure he'll see this soon. (It's not like he's out riding)
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2021, 08:46:24 AM »

Found an old post, unfortunately the purchase links are gone.  Really important to find the bulbs with the staggered rows of LEDs that mimic halogen bulbs very closely. Also the adjustable bulb base and removable cooling fin base for easy installation behind the stock rubber headlight dust seal.  Bulb base is adjustable with a tiny allen wrench (included) and set screws.  No fan to wear out.  Great pattern.  Bright like a comet, especially with two of 'em!

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,102023.0.html

If I remember correctly Josh found a set that is exactly like the ones I mentioned in the link above, just a bit more costly.  You might check with him about where to find them.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2021, 11:47:15 AM »

I recently did an LED headlight bulb comparison with the standard incandescent headlight bulb.  I also compared the amber LED bulbs with the standard 1157 incandescent bulbs.  (This is on a Valk Standard and not an Interstate.)

Here's the two pics...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JqhodfsjACVHHmzqZoII1f2CSdjfCFTq?usp=sharing

The LED headlight bulb ended up being more than twice as bright as the incandescent headlight bulb and the amber LED bulbs were more than five times brighter than the standard 1157 incandescent bulbs.

Here's the parameters...

The Headlight was on high beam for both bulbs and the incident light meter was set 10ft from of the front of the headlight in the middle of the beam.  The bike was up on my lift and the front wheel was held steady by a wheel chock.

Incandescent Headlight Bulb:  156 foot candles, with a color temp of 2800˚K (about the same as a standard incandescent household bulb)
LED Headlight Bulb.            :  356 foot candles, with a color temp of 7000˚K (about the same as an overcast day outside)

The running lights were measured with a reflective (or spot) meter aimed directly at the lens at 5ft.  The spot meter gives readings in terms of exposure and not luminance.  The meter was set at a 120th of a second with an ISO of 100.

Incandescent 1157 bulbs:  f11.5
Amber LED Bulbs.          :  f32      That's 2.5 stops of light.  (One 'stop' equals twice the amount of light.)

The camera was mounted on a tripod and set at 800 ISO at 125th of a second with the white balance set at 5600˚K.  The lens was set at 30mm with an f-Stop of 5.6

Anyway, I'm trying out one of those newer style LED headlight bulbs and wanted to measure it against the standard LED headlight bulb.  The manufacturer claims a life of 30,000 hrs.  Also, the beam looks smoother and better than the old incandescent while sitting in the garage, but I have not ridden at night yet (the LED bulb has been in for two days as I write this.)

So, I'm thinking that these newer style bulbs are starting to work really well without any type of mods to the headlight housings.  Plus, if they go out on a trip, they can be replaced with any H4 bulb that's either in my saddle bag or in a nearby parts store.

 cooldude


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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2021, 07:01:53 PM »

John, I used the Calais LED fog light bulbs in my pods as mentioned by NighthawkVTX in the post at this link. They are bright.
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,103902.0.html
I also have a pair of fanless, adjustable LED headlight bulbs I'll give you if you want them. You'll have to bend one of the mounting tabs down to make them fit the OEM Interstate headlight fixture. I didn't use them because I did the Steel Cowboy Daymaker conversion on my Interstate.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2021, 05:36:07 AM »

For the Fog Lights
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CTMTATI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For the Headlights
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BTW6RCG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2021, 05:47:45 AM »

Here is a picture of my interstate.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2021, 08:02:55 AM »

I used superbright fanless head light replacement bulbs. You will have a slight modification to make them fit, but easy and happy with them the downside with LED headlights, pick up more interference with radio reception. I Bluetooth from phone for music so doesn’t bother me that much. I’ve tried adding filters with no luck. But headlights are awesome.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2021, 11:10:23 AM »

Are you wanting the OEM fog lights for the pod, but change the bulb to LED, or something else, light mounted onto the crash bar?

I bought a used set of fog lights, but no rubber seal. Not been able to make or find a replacement yet for them. Still looking. I wanted the brackets to see how-to.

I bought these last year, 23mm LED lights.
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?spm=a2g0s.9042647.6.2.500c4c4dIq34BO&orderId=8122025934954995&productId=4000301919344
I want the fog lights for running lights. So figure these bright 23mm LED lights would serve that purpose, and it is a lot easier to drill a 1" hole through the pod and screw these in, than a $500 for a complete set of fog lights.

Have seen a co-rider use this size LED light on his Tourer, and they make him easily seen.

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John Schmidt
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De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2021, 12:34:11 PM »

Gordon, I have the pod mounted Honda lights, just wanted to have those and the headlights as LED. I had Josh's conversion to LED for the headlight on my Tourer and it was great. Obviously that can't be used on the I/S trike. My main concern/want is the headlight, but if I can find something for the fog lights as well I l'll go that route also.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2021, 05:43:16 PM »

John, if you are going to replace the halogen lights in the pod lights with LED bulbs look for projector bulbs
they have a lens in front to enhance the light they emit.
I also removed the diffuser cap inside the lamp housing to further the amount of light given out.
The cap is there for halogen style bulbs.
Here is what the lamp looked like before and now.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/HyGVQ5b
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John Schmidt
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De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2021, 08:04:40 PM »

John, if you are going to replace the halogen lights in the pod lights with LED bulbs look for projector bulbs
they have a lens in front to enhance the light they emit.
I also removed the diffuser cap inside the lamp housing to further the amount of light given out.
The cap is there for halogen style bulbs.
Here is what the lamp looked like before and now.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/HyGVQ5b
I haven't delved into it yet so maybe you could fill me in on how to access the innards on the fog lights. I'm still in the process of swapping stuff over from the old bike to the trike, the lights will be the last item on the list when all else is done.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2021, 02:39:27 PM »

Have a 1999 Interstate without fog lights, where can I get an install kit to do this or information ?

Thank you
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2021, 04:24:14 PM »

John, if you are going to replace the halogen lights in the pod lights with LED bulbs look for projector bulbs they have a lens in front to enhance the light they emit.
I also removed the diffuser cap inside the lamp housing to further the amount of light given out.
The cap is there for halogen style bulbs.
Here is what the lamp looked like before and now.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/HyGVQ5b
I have one of the lamps off now, got the replacement LED's in yesterday. Changing out the bulb is easy but darned if I can figure out how to get at the diffuser cap you mentioned. What's the secret?
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2021, 01:14:08 PM »



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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2021, 01:40:36 PM »




Those headlights are something else!  Great ingenuity right there.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2021, 06:17:02 PM »





What manufacturer and part number are the headlight seal beams?
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2021, 05:52:29 PM »

Harley Davidson Road glide lights, but there are so many manufacturers out on EBay that I can’t remember were I bought them.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2021, 09:15:07 PM »

Cowboy,
Did you have to go through a lot of fitting to get them in the Valkyrie fairing?

Also, if you look through you ebay summary you may be able to find them in your purchase history?

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2021, 02:24:42 PM »

John, if you are going to replace the halogen lights in the pod lights with LED bulbs look for projector bulbs they have a lens in front to enhance the light they emit.
I also removed the diffuser cap inside the lamp housing to further the amount of light given out.
The cap is there for halogen style bulbs.
Here is what the lamp looked like before and now.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/HyGVQ5b
I have one of the lamps off now, got the replacement LED's in yesterday. Changing out the bulb is easy but darned if I can figure out how to get at the diffuser cap you mentioned. What's the secret?

Doing the same to my Pods, did you ever learn the secret on how to remove the diffuser cap?
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John Schmidt
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De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2021, 02:47:39 PM »

John, if you are going to replace the halogen lights in the pod lights with LED bulbs look for projector bulbs they have a lens in front to enhance the light they emit.
I also removed the diffuser cap inside the lamp housing to further the amount of light given out.
The cap is there for halogen style bulbs.
Here is what the lamp looked like before and now.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/HyGVQ5b
I have one of the lamps off now, got the replacement LED's in yesterday. Changing out the bulb is easy but darned if I can figure out how to get at the diffuser cap you mentioned. What's the secret?

Doing the same to my Pods, did you ever learn the secret on how to remove the diffuser cap?

Nope and messed up the reflector in the one I tried to remove so replaced them with some for a '99-2000 Cvic...almost identical. Installed two new halogens and will leave it at that.
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2021, 03:13:43 PM »

John, these off-road (but don't really go off-road on purpose) H4 80/100 halogens give a very nice boost to your visibility (to oncoming traffic) with no modification or diddling around necessary, (other than cutting the tabs off).

The 2 X 80s on dim is all you ever need (unless you would flash the 100s to get attention), without really compromising overall draw from the system.  I've been running them for years now and no issues at all.  Yes the LEDs are better lights (with much less draw), but they all seem to require mods to get the fans in or the clips to close or some other problems.

The 80s on dim never required any re-aiming on either of my interstates, and I don't get flashed. Though I do almost no night driving anymore.  And none have burned out in 5-7 years or so either. And no heat (or wiring) issue in the very well breathing interstate fairing either.  And I don't use the Electical Connection retainer shims/adapters either.

Std H4 55/60s = 2 X 55 on dim = 110 total constant draw.  80/100s = 2 X 80 on dim = 160 total constant draw.  Now if I was running heated gear, extra lights and other things, I might not want 80s on constant dims, but I don't.  Isn't the Valk standard alternator output like 560 watts constant?

HELLA H4 100/80 High Wattage Bulbs,   (at $6 a bulb is hard to beat).  

https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-100-80WTB-Wattage-100-H4/dp/B078SGR4SY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EWDMXPP5WM3W&dchild=1&keywords=hella+h4+80%2F100&qid=1618610878&sprefix=80+100+H4%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-1

These should not be used in any std/tourer bucket without socket/wiring upgrade however.

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