fuel cost

[old2soon]

    Here in SoMo. Just looked at the Murphy's near me and thoise that Aren't at $3.00 a gal are really close. So my fillup at $2.76 a gal was a bit better than 3 bucks a gal. But 10 montha ago it was under 2 bucks a gal. And Yet AGAIN I KNOW whose feet to lay this travesty at!  I Know some folks in The U S of A Are paying more per gal than I do but thinkin here went up EVERYWHERE.    Gotta call my natural gas supplier and see if they have any idea how much MORE it's going to cost me to heat my place this winter.    NO matter what have to at least keep the pipes from freezin!
    5.9% social insecurity raise will NOT even begin to cover what inflation is Already Costing. Give with a tiny part of the finger and rip us off with as many hands as they can possibly git in our wallets/pockets/bank accounts! Is it 2024 yet? RIDE SAFE.

[Wizzard]

you are lucky,  its 3.49 a gal here

[scooperhsd]

Unleaded (ethanol tainted) regular is right at $3.00 / gallon, D2 at my usual station was $3.399 .

[six2go #152]

you are lucky,  its 3.49 a gal here

Not quite that here in Ft.Wayne, At least not 20 minutes ago. We are at $3.23 - $3.29 for Regular and for my VW GTI which requires Premium, it's .60 - .80 on top of that depending on the station.

[Wizzard]

3.49 gal for regular octane unleaded with ethanol of course

[Grandpot]

I travel around a lot and noticed that Blue states have the highest gas prices.  I'm not trying to be political, but it is what it is.  Anyone from Illinois, California or New York want to tell us what they are paying?

[CajunRider]

The Energy Information Administration (another government waste of money as far as I can tell) claims heating oil may increase 40% and propane may increase 54% during the winter months. 

From blaze Media, so a grain of salt may be required for reading:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/government-winter-heating-prices-spike

[old2soon]

I travel around a lot and noticed that Blue states have the highest gas prices.  I'm not trying to be political, but it is what it is.  Anyone from Illinois, California or New York want to tell us what they are paying?

        I was up in Il. 2? weeks back and then it was 3.30  3.48 a gal. Sams Club was at 3.15. And I will be going back to Il. for CHRISTMAS. And do NOT even Ask bout hotel/motel prices up there in blue Il. And I've already posted bout resturant costs up thataway. RIDE SAFE.

[f6john]

We are just now hitting $3.00+ for regular 87 octane. But my Scag zero turn and other lawn equipment like non ethanol gas and it is $3.99 a gallon and is only available in Lexington so I have to make sure to remember to bring my cans when I’m going there for appointments ect.

[six2go #152]

At the time of my previous post we were at $3.23, now an hour later the same station is $3.39. That means every filling station in the county is the same price.

[Wizzard]

sounds like price fixing to me 

[Rams]

Yesterday, I drove my Ram 3500 from Hattiesburg to Atlanta and back (about 850 miles, round trip) with trailer in tow, saw diesel priced as low as $3.09 and as high as $3.79 a gallon.   If nothing else the price of fuel will slow ya down.   At least it does me.   Exceeding the speed limit uses a lot more fuel (not to mention any speed awards that may be handed out, I've had my share of those).

Rams

[cookiedough]

Yesterday, I drove my Ram 3500 from Hattiesburg to Atlanta and back (about 850 miles, round trip) with trailer in tow, saw diesel priced as low as $3.09 and as high as $3.79 a gallon.   If nothing else the price of fuel will slow ya down.   At least it does me.   Exceeding the speed limit uses a lot more fuel (not to mention any speed awards that may be handed out, I've had my share of those).

Rams

I find that more so higher speeds say over 80  mph definitely drops big trucks mpg vs. say a 4 cylinder car.  My V8 1/2 ton truck will get 19 mpg hwy. if under 60 mph which I never do,  but if go over 80 mph or so, drops to around 15 hwy mpg.    wind resistance and thirsty V8 at higher speeds is bad.   My 4 cylinder car does AWESOME on hwy if under 80 mph will get near 39 mpg but in town driving sucks around 25 mpg.  Even with car say doing 83 mph only drops 1-2 hwy mpg.

I think gas prices will continue to keep going upward slowly filled up my V8 truck 35 gallons few weeks ago 94 bucks that one hurt vs. say with car same mileage 45 bucks.

[0leman]

Southern OR price for regular is $3.56.  Has been there for over a month.   

We have  a RAM 1500 which gets around 16 mpg when driving mostly in town.  Over 20 mpg on the open road.  Plus have a Honda Pilot which get 20 mpg in town and near 30 on the open road.   Usually drive 5-6 mph over the posted limits.  Nearest Interstate is over 80 miles away  so don't hit really high speeds most of the time.

We get most of our gas from CA, though don't have all their taxes so a bit cheaper.

[old2soon]

       My older Pancho-3.8 Gen III non turbo-burns 87 octane corn polluted and on my most recent round to N. Il. using cruise control no A/C indicating 71 72 M P H it gets a smidge more than 28 M P G. And That speed indicated is Just Under 2000 R P M and in O/D. But as others besides me may have observed We do NOT magically git better M P G with the Higher fuel cost!   And my most recent fuel cost check some of the other outlets Have inched closer to 3 bucks a gal.  
        While should I state on an open forum my thoughts would have this reply pulled post haste. BUT so far anywho No Way No How can "they" keep me from Having these Thoughts!   GOD BLESS AMERICA.  

[carolinarider09]

     
        While should I state on an open forum my thoughts would have this reply pulled post haste. BUT so far anywho No Way No How can "they" keep me from Having these Thoughts!   GOD BLESS AMERICA.  

 

[mellowyellow#7933]

Got you all beat! Here in Northern Ontario Canada we are at $1.50/liter=$6.00/U.S. Gallon! 

[DIGGER]

Being on fixed income and the price of fuel going up my traveling will get more and more curtailed.   Filled my truck up recently and it was $72.     Getting out of my price range.   Gonna have to quit making individual trips to town and start waiting till I need to go to multiple stops at one time.   

[Patrick]

Its now reported that gasoline is up 42% since joe took office.

Overall inflation is worse now than the past 40+ years. Its hit double digits in 10 months.

Obama video shown the other day showed him stating that Joe has done nothing right in his whole career and stayed away from him during his presidency as much as he could. Thats saying something since in my opinion Obama was no prize.

Obama is also on video now stating that since he couldn't run for the third term he would be open to continue as he did silently through other means. I imagine he is now pulling someones strings.

[luftkoph]

It’s simply capitalism, supply/demand,suck it up or enjoy it, the US has been exporting LPG for quite awhile (capitalism) helps with our trade deficit also, but now the US LPG reserves are at a 7 year low, so we all know simple economics  prices will jump, politics has very little to nothing to do with it.

[Patrick]

It’s simply capitalism, supply/demand,suck it up or enjoy it, the US has been exporting LPG for quite awhile (capitalism) helps with our trade deficit also, but now the US LPG reserves are at a 7 year low, so we all know simple economics  prices will jump, politics has very little to nothing to do with it.

Politics has nothing todo with it !?

Sure !  [backing away slowly while nodding knowingly]

[cookiedough]

only good thing (well not really) of rising gas prices is the larger V8 SUV/trucks that suck gas getting 17 mpg tops might not sell as well when gas gets to near 4 bucks per gallon.  Thus,  maybe having some trucks/SUV's on lots to sell in 2022 vs. dealers thinking is ethical to have a 4-5K or more in some states dealer markup due to extremely low inventory levels right now?

It hurts though filling up my truck having a 38 gallon fuel tank costing 100 bucks per fillup and even my 35 mpg car costing 50 bucks per week.

[carolinarider09]

Politics has nothing todo with it !?

Sure !  [backing away slowly while nodding knowingly]

 

[Rams]

It’s simply capitalism, supply/demand,suck it up or enjoy it, the US has been exporting LPG for quite awhile (capitalism) helps with our trade deficit also, but now the US LPG reserves are at a 7 year low, so we all know simple economics  prices will jump, politics has very little to nothing to do with it.

Politics has nothing todo with it !?

Sure !  [backing away slowly while nodding knowingly]

Seriously?   Politics are reflected in policies, trade import/export agreements, tariffs and tax policies affecting where factories are built, the stock market, (trades in futures), all effecting our economy.  

Rams

[Patrick]

Got you all beat! Here in Northern Ontario Canada we are at $1.50/liter=$6.00/U.S. Gallon! 

Fuel price in Canada has always been outrageous. Don't know how you guys do it. And the farther north the more expensive it is.

[carolinarider09]

One has to ask one's self why that might be.  According to the websites below, there are lots of oil fields in western Canada.  Is it taxes?????   

And, if I remember correctly, they wanted to export a bunch to the US right???




https://www.spec2000.net/text100fp/cdnoilmap.jpg

https://www.drillingmaps.com/Saskatchewan.html

[scooperhsd]

Alot of those oil fields in Alberta are oilsands - which require processing to "purify" the oil. The pipeline that WAS going to transport this to the Gulf Coast (the Keystone XL) was killed by Biden (probably as a favor to Warren Buffet (who owns a significant part of a railroad)) in the early days of his administration.

[DIGGER]

only good thing (well not really) of rising gas prices is the larger V8 SUV/trucks that suck gas getting 17 mpg tops might not sell as well when gas gets to near 4 bucks per gallon.  Thus,  maybe having some trucks/SUV's on lots to sell in 2022 vs. dealers thinking is ethical to have a 4-5K or more in some states dealer markup due to extremely low inventory levels right now?

It hurts though filling up my truck having a 38 gallon fuel tank costing 100 bucks per fillup and even my 35 mpg car costing 50 bucks per week.

Most service and delivery companies have to have trucks of some sort.   The higher the gas cost the more the suppliers have to charge the more the consumers have to pay in the end.   Inflation to go higher as gas prices go higher

[Patrick]

Apparently rail and truck transportation are more cost effective and environmentally friendly than some bad ole nasty pipeline.  Must be true since our president stopped it.Its obvious he knows more about this stuff than we do.

[Patrick]

Folks in this area are quitting good tech jobs, such as at Gas/electric co, phone co, etc, for truck driving jobs because of the now higher pay and sign up bonuses. Never thought I'd see this. Truck driving job wages have really gone up.

[luftkoph]

One has to ask one's self why that might be.  According to the websites below, there are lots of oil fields in western Canada.  Is it taxes?????   

And, if I remember correctly, they wanted to export a bunch to the US right???




https://www.spec2000.net/text100fp/cdnoilmap.jpg

They want to export to who ever will pay the most per barrel

https://www.drillingmaps.com/Saskatchewan.html

[luftkoph]

It’s simply capitalism, supply/demand,suck it up or enjoy it, the US has been exporting LPG for quite awhile (capitalism) helps with our trade deficit also, but now the US LPG reserves are at a 7 year low, so we all know simple economics  prices will jump, politics has very little to nothing to do with it.

I didn’t say nothing to do with it, I said very little to do with it




Politics has nothing todo with it !?

Sure !  [backing away slowly while nodding knowingly]

[luftkoph]

I hope these high LPG prices don’t happen, because last time the supply got this short we were sending trucks to TX and LA. To bring it back to MI. That’s a long trip for 8500 gallons of propane

[carolinarider09]

So, I did a search and lo and behold, the reason that Canada wanted to get the Keystone Pipeline into US is....


Despite boasting one of the highest proven oil reserves in the world -- second only to Saudi Arabia at 175 billion barrels-- a high percentage of Canadian crude is shipped across the border for refining in the United States. This has led to charges that Canada is selling out its vast oil resources to the U.S. and failing to uphold the national interest in ensuring that refineries are built in Canada, with the benefits accruing to Canadians.

Another major issue is excess refining capacity. While Canada only refines about a quarter of the oil it produces, it refines more oil than it consumes. That means any newly constructed refineries would be refining oil for export, not for internal consumption.

When the crude flows south, Canadian producers receive a lower price for Western Canadian Select than the Brent crude oil that is imported by Eastern Canadian refineries. That difference in price costs the Canadian economy an estimated $19 billion a year, according to Bloomberg News, and is the primary reason that Canadian oil producers, along with the Canadian government, are pushing for more pipelines. The theory, and it makes good business sense, is that as pipelines free up more oil to move, the glut of oil in the Midwestern U.S., that is currently depressing the price of Western Canadian Select, will dissipate and prices will rise.

The link from June 2014....  I suspect it has not changed. 

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Why-Canada-Would-Rather-Export-Oil-Than-Refine-It.html

[Patrick]

It’s simply capitalism, supply/demand,suck it up or enjoy it, the US has been exporting LPG for quite awhile (capitalism) helps with our trade deficit also, but now the US LPG reserves are at a 7 year low, so we all know simple economics  prices will jump, politics has very little to nothing to do with it.

I didn’t say nothing to do with it, I said very little to do with it




Politics has nothing todo with it !?

Sure !  [backing away slowly while nodding knowingly]

You may want to re-read your post.    Particularly the 'very little to nothing' part.

But, I'll accept the 'very little part' of the post. My response wouldn't change.

[old2soon]

        As I was coming back to Willow Springs earlier I looked over at the Loves Truck Stop and dang-87 octane $3.10 and diesel cash $3.71 a gal. And B T W I round up that 1/10 of a cent. Depending on Where ya buy it in West Plains HIGH $2.90s Low $3.00s. Thanks JOE! RIDE SAFE.

[..]

Jumped from $3.00 to $3.16

[Patrick]

We're now at $3.40

[valkmc]

We're now at $3.40

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Paid $3.23 in Ocala Fl today.  Where you located in Upstate NY.  I'm from Mexico, Oswego area. Great roads!

[old2soon]

      Just happened to glance at the Murphy U S A fuel prices and darn-low of $3.03 to $3.10! I had looked yesterday and most were flirting with $2.90 something. And yet Again-Thanks JOE! RIDE SAFE.