BigEagle
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« on: February 26, 2010, 01:46:18 PM » |
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Where can I find this wheel?  I want one!!!  Where can I buy it??? |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 02:40:14 PM » |
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The link shows a 240 which won't work on the stock rim, also won't have room for it without modifying the swingarm. The 205 car tire I have on only has about 1/8" or less clearance of the swingarm and that 240 is more than 1/8" wider.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 03:06:19 PM » |
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That first pic is the one that confirmed my eventual Valkyrie-filled future.  If I ever get another Valkyrie to play with...  I don't remember where I copied the following and I believe the site no longer exists. Builder: BadMax From a German builder of hot Vmax's. Metzeler 240/40-18 on 8.5" widened and raised stock rim (Metzeler specifies 8" minimum rim width), 180/70-18 on the front. The drag bars, round Honda mirrors, and Kellerman bar-end turn signals look great together. The Europeans seem to have a keen eye for tasteful customization. The European bikes just seem to look like a factory custom. From the BadMax site (badmax.de), as translated by Altavista: 1. Rocker change kit with rim for 240 tire. Change Original rocker with all distances, adapters and knockout spindle in black (powder-coated), as well as rim change on 8.5 inch with Metzeler 240/40-18 tires (rims highly polished or powder-coats). DM 5,500. [$2,425 USD a/o Jan. 2002] 2. Shield [fender] in the back for 240 change for solo operation (unlacquered). DM 980 [$432 USD a/o Jan. 2002] 3. Front wheel change on 5,0 inch in front. Change of the front wheel on 5.0 inch with Metzeler 180-70-18 tyre (rims highly polished or powder-coats). DM 1,750. [$772 USD a/o Jan. 2002] 4. Sport sportfender briefly for front wheel change. Beautiful, sporty shield suitably for tail and front wheel change. (shield, unlacquered, is necessary for front wheel change!). DM 490. [$217 USD a/o Jan. 2002] |
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 03:26:51 PM » |
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BigEagle
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 11:59:00 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 08:30:29 AM » |
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Where can I find this wheel? Everything looks 100% stock and un-modified. i.e. shocks, swing, caliper, rotor,wheel [chromed], rear drive [paint/powder]. The fender however appears to have opened it all up to fit. Guess if ya want to find a tire and chop your fender it'll work. But, alas...there goes the handling [more vertical in the turns!]. Nowhere near as bad a lean reduction as Dogg's beautiful creation though. |
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BigEagle
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 12:41:33 PM » |
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Where can I find this wheel? Everything looks 100% stock and un-modified. i.e. shocks, swing, caliper, rotor,wheel [chromed], rear drive [paint/powder]. The fender however appears to have opened it all up to fit. I donno 'bout dat. Comparing it to my wheel, the rim is wider. The brake rotor is almost inside it. On my wheel the brake rotor is nowhere near inside the rim. Unless I'm tripp'n again, this is no stock wheel. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 12:55:03 PM » |
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Ya know, the more i look at the the rim, you can see the bead that was added for width, but if you look real close it looks like it is offset to the left side swingarm, (looking from the rear) to give the clearance for the drive shaft tube, without doing the mod Dogg did how else could you get the clearance ? the rim itself must be custom to offset for clearance .
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 02:16:57 PM » |
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Ya know, the more i look at the the rim, you can see the bead that was added for width, but if you look real close it looks like it is offset to the left side swingarm, (looking from the rear) to give the clearance for the drive shaft tube, without doing the mod Dogg did how else could you get the clearance ? the rim itself must be custom to offset for clearance .
Ya'll could be very right. I noticed that too, but chalked it up to an illusion created by the chrome sheen. Ifin' the left side [only] of the wheel was built out it would cause a tracking issue from front to rear that I wouldn't find personally acceptable just to look cool... Ah, but then too. my early life cataracts could be the problem also. |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 03:23:50 PM » |
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I have a spare swingarm so went out to measure the internal width. Couldn't get an exact figure because of where I have it stashed it's not real accessible, but it appears to be approx. 9" wide. A 240 is roughly .06" under 9.5", so it would seem to me that it wouldn't take too much work on the right side of the swingarm to gain that extra fraction needed to clear it. Looks like the big expense would be modifying the rear wheel, making it wide enough to accept a 240 tire. Guess you'd also have to toss in the fender expense as well, that OEM sure won't cut it. If the owner of the one ride we're looking at basically did a slight mod to the swingarm internal clearance and then widened the wheel to accept the 240, but did it in a manner that kept it centered, then you wouldn't have an off-center tracking problem. Too bad some close-up shots of the rear wheel aren't available, I'll bet we'd have a few 240's running around at IZ. I'd love to be able to do something like that to my Valk, better yet....I'l love to have the extra $$ to be able to afford it. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 05:11:48 PM » |
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The first blown Valkyrie I ever saw was set up essentially as a drag bike and the drive shaft tube had been notched to allow a wide tire to fit without rubbing. I don't have pics to refer to and don't remember what the rear wheel was, but it looked like a relatively easy mod.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 10:47:01 AM » |
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A custom wheel thread from many moons ago discussed this and JeffK came up with this company that widens wheels. Sounds like the same process to me. www.kosman.net Give them a call, maybe just what you are looking for. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 12:28:48 PM » |
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Why not this? |
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2010, 12:45:59 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2010, 12:59:33 PM » |
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I believe that one is on ebay, as well
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BigEagle
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2010, 02:41:43 PM » |
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A custom wheel thread from many moons ago discussed this and JeffK came up with this company that widens wheels. Sounds like the same process to me. www.kosman.net Give them a call, maybe just what you are looking for. Awesome! Atleast now there's hope that this is not just another "not made for the Valkyrie anymore" dead end. Thanks! |
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2010, 02:45:17 PM » |
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Why not this? Here is some more pics of Dogg`s Valk: http://www.valkyrienorway.com/customalbrecht.html |
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2010, 03:33:36 PM » |
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A custom wheel thread from many moons ago discussed this and JeffK came up with this company that widens wheels. Sounds like the same process to me. www.kosman.net Give them a call, maybe just what you are looking for. Awesome! Atleast now there's hope that this is not just another "not made for the Valkyrie anymore" dead end. Thanks! Yep, Kosman is the guy. They do a 3/8" offset to the rear wheel to give clearance. It does change the center line of the bike. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2010, 03:55:02 PM » |
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A custom wheel thread from many moons ago discussed this and JeffK came up with this company that widens wheels. Sounds like the same process to me. www.kosman.net Give them a call, maybe just what you are looking for. Awesome! Atleast now there's hope that this is not just another "not made for the Valkyrie anymore" dead end. Thanks! Jeff i owe ya one!! i was hiding after i made that comment up there!! LOL  Yep, Kosman is the guy. They do a 3/8" offset to the rear wheel to give clearance. It does change the center line of the bike. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2010, 05:29:44 PM » |
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Where can I find this wheel? I want one!!! Where can I buy it??? I've seen several wheels very similar to that on Rocket 3's.  They do look nice and didn't seem to affect handling too much compared a stock Valk width tire. I've got a GYTT on back of my IS for most of last summer and that's a fair bit of width back there too, not near as pretty as that nice wide MC tire though. |
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BigEagle
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2010, 09:01:18 AM » |
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Read some archived info last night on the iPhone. It's sooo nice being able to surf the net on slow nights at work! Gleaned lotsa good stuff!!! I'll be doing more tonight, so if anyone has any pointers, I'll be sure to check it out. TIA |
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 01:47:05 PM » |
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I think this is going to wind up on my "Mods to do this Summer" list. I'll have to find a spare swing arm. anyone done a trike conversion lately?
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2011, 04:47:17 PM » |
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It's officially my mission for the summer to either complete a "how to" article or start supplying modified swing arms, maybe both, we'll see how it goes.
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2011, 06:17:55 PM » |
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It's officially my mission for the summer to either complete a "how to" article or start supplying modified swing arms, maybe both, we'll see how it goes.
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2011, 11:45:13 PM » |
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You can count me in on wanting one of these if you get it going. Assuming the price isn't too crazy.
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2011, 01:18:13 AM » |
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Count me in also. Been wanting this for a long time.
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2011, 11:03:08 AM » |
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JeffK - I'm over in Norfolk, VA all summer.
I'm currently in search of a rear end assembly to use as my first "core" to be modified. I have a Hitchdoc and Champion hard bags on my bike. I'd like to be able to develope this to work with all Valkyries. Right now my thought is to make the fender by combining oem front half and an aftermarket. This will be more complicated, but will result in being compatible with all aftermarket seats. I'm not sure how to work around sissy bar and trunk mounting as of yet.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2011, 11:17:50 AM » |
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If you look real close you will see the only difference is it's black. It does play a little trick on the eye since the pic isn't very close.
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BigEagle
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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2011, 02:05:47 PM » |
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It's officially my mission for the summer to either complete a "how to" article or start supplying modified swing arms, maybe both, we'll see how it goes.
It's my official mission to get that 140/50-16 Metz on the back of my Valk, ASAP! If someone figures out how to mod the swingarm so that this tire can be mounted centered, I don't care how much it costs... I'm gonna be all over it. I rather doubt this can actually be done though. The best this German guy could do still had on offset wheel. I don't mind paying for widening my wheel, but I want it dead centered. No offset. If someone figures a way to do this, theres gonna be a lot of Valkyries running around with beefy meats, myself included. |
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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2011, 03:52:25 PM » |
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I am with you on this though money is a limitation for me. This is the one mod I want for my Valk the most.
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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2011, 05:38:51 AM » |
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Way back in the day.......Direct Line was selling a Big Wheel kit.......best memory was about $2500-$3500 and that included the new wheel, swingarm and new Progressive shocks......not sure about the fender though. I also dont know if they actually sold any either.
I did buy a Pinwall rear swing arm and axle off of ebay this morning.
I know that Avon suggests a min rim of 7" for the 240 Cobra. I ran a 275/50-16 on a factory 16x7 Mustang Pony wheel for years
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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2011, 03:10:14 PM » |
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I'd assume if they actually hit production some one here would have come accross one.
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2012, 01:31:46 PM » |
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Anymore word on a "centered" wide tire kit??? Just bought another bike, so gonna put some money into Bubba. He's earned it!
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any luck with a 240 kit for the valkyrie?
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I'll give this a bump. Any progress on this mod??
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