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« on: March 17, 2010, 08:57:49 AM » |
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Well, I got my 2010 Census form and it does only have 10 questions, but some of them are interesting/confusing or don't have the correct answer options....
Question 1. How many people were living or staying in this house, apartment, or mobile home on April 1, 2010. Answer - Well, it's not quite yet April 1, 2010 but I will guess and say there will be no change from the number that is here today. ONE.
Question 2. Were there any additional people staying here April 1, 2010, that you did not include in Question 1? Answer - Gee, I am getting the impression that you didn't believe me the first time you asked me how many people were living here on April 1, 2010. I'm not counting the gal that spent the night last night, cause she might not be here again on April 1st. Maybe I should wait til April 1st and answer the question.... then I could lie and say "April Fools".
Question 3. Is this house, apartment, or mobile home....... Answer - Yea yea the bank owns it and I make payments to them.
Question 4. What is your telephone number? Answer - I didn't notice this answer option on the form..... but it's none of your business, I don't want any sales/scam calls or the like. That is why I am on the Do Not Call List. And... I could change that number or disconnect it at any time, which is what I probably would have to do if I gave it to you.
Question 5. What is person 1's name? Answer - Well it was addressed on the envelope as "To Resident At" .... so does that constitute a legal name change? Awww hell.... so I provide my name.
Question 6. What is person 1's sex? Answer - I only saw two answer options available for this question.... Male and Female. I answered Male. But what about those people that are a little of both or those that are unsure, or maybe those that aren't getting enough or (getting too much like Tiger) and what about those that consider themselves a eunuch. Just how accurate is this Census information going to be?
Question 7. What is person 1's age and what is person 1's date of birth? Answer - I told you this 10 years ago and still have yet to get a birthday gift or card, so why should I tell you again? Ok, so now I will be expecting a card at least.
Question 8. Is person 1 of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin? Answer - Not that I know of. But I am of European heritage, my father and his parents immigrated legally and came into this country via Ellis Island.
Question 9. What is person 1's race? Answer - White is a color, I don't see Caucasian American, INDY 500 or NASCAR listed and none of the others apply to me. Ahhh, there is a "some other race" option.... but Caucasian American doesn't fit in the blocks, but NASCAR does.... so NASCAR it is.
Question 10. Does Person 1 sometimes live or stay somewhere else? Answer - Gee, I guess I will have to answer NO to this one... since I don't see the option for "in the Gal's place I picked up at the bar/restaurant, MC Rally or on-line site.
>> If more people were counted in question 1, continue with person 2. Does this mean I can count my multiple personalities ?
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 09:12:39 AM » |
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I got mine too......filled it out and mailed it same day.........I thought it sounded like it was written by the same people that write the instructions to assemble forgin made products. Like "Never use for the other use" Our government is a big dissapointment lately......it seems nothing they do is professional, effecient, makes any sense or WORKS.....but what is new, never really did, just seems worse the last few years 
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 10:18:32 AM » |
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What I don't understand is...why can't they do the first round of census online? Then pick up the technically challenged in the second round. It would seem to me to be much more efficient and cost us tax payers MUCH less than killing all those trees to print/send out these forms (not to mention the postage to mail them out and back). Mine was done today.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 10:25:29 AM » |
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I'll probably be headed to the slammer, but I only answered question #1. There are "2" people permanently at this address.
Then I added a typewritten note that stated something to the effect that the only answer required by the U.S. Constitution was to question #1 and therefor I declined to answer questions 2-10.
I'm old and I'm tired of the socialistic B.S.!!!
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 10:36:15 AM » |
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Well, I just answered the first question. All they need to know. Also what frosted me was the letter I got last week to tell me I was getting a letter this week. Redundant. There went twice the number of trees needed to do this project.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 10:39:50 AM » |
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What I don't understand is...why can't they do the first round of census online? Then pick up the technically challenged in the second round. It would seem to me to be much more efficient and cost us tax payers MUCH less than killing all those trees to print/send out these forms (not to mention the postage to mail them out and back). Mine was done today.
Joe
They can't do it on line. This works when you cut down the trees to make the paper that is used for the census. After everything is mailed out -- They count the dead trees and subtract 5.38654% and divide by 2.3. As I understand it anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 10:52:06 AM » |
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I thought it was a really nice touch that a week earlier the Government sent everyone a letter explaining that the actual survey would be mailed a week later.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 10:56:08 AM » |
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What I don't understand is...why can't they do the first round of census online? Then pick up the technically challenged in the second round. It would seem to me to be much more efficient and cost us tax payers MUCH less than killing all those trees to print/send out these forms (not to mention the postage to mail them out and back). Mine was done today.
Joe
Joe, My guess would be that they (US Govt) never invested properly in cyber security so those numbers would be subject to a whole bunch of fraud......same reason we dont have oniline voting
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 11:06:16 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 11:08:58 AM » |
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I hear they are mailing out another letter at the end of the week to notify you that you have recieved the census.  Kidding, I think.......... 
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 11:46:57 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 11:53:02 AM » |
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I thought it was a really nice touch that a week earlier the Government sent everyone a letter explaining that the actual survey would be mailed a week later.
Yeah, they mailed the pre-census letter, but some yahoo stuck the real thing in my front screen door!  hoser
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 11:57:37 AM » |
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I was mildly surprised it wasn't printed in dual languages. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 12:00:16 PM » |
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I answered most of the questions... the ones already in someone else's data base... like the house stuff.
For telephone, I did print "No home telephone" which was true. Didn't say whether or not I had a cell, though.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 12:16:50 PM » |
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I got mine too......filled it out and mailed it same day.........I thought it sounded like it was written by the same people that write the instructions to assemble forgin made products. Like "Never use for the other use" Our government is a big dissapointment lately......it seems nothing they do is professional, effecient, makes any sense or WORKS.....but what is new, never really did, just seems worse the last few years  I agree our governemt is a big disapointment but it didn't start recently for me. Since I graduated from high school in 1976 and started paying attention to the government they have been screwing up on a regular basis. If I conducted my life like they conduct the government I would be broke, and had the sh-t kicked out of me by everyone I know.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 12:34:37 PM » |
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I answered most of the questions... the ones already in someone else's data base... like the house stuff.
For telephone, I did print "No home telephone" which was true. Didn't say whether or not I had a cell, though.
Hehe.. my wife and I were building our house when the last census rolled around... Our kitchen and bathroom were in a travel trailer next to the house, and we "lived" here:  The questions on the last census were a little different, but I really enjoyed filling it out: Where do you live: South CarolinaHow many rooms in your house: oneDo you have running water: no-Mike
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2010, 01:00:00 PM » |
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I filled in "American" Under "Some Other Race" And yes, I know American isn't a race, but it should be. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 01:03:24 PM » |
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lol I'm actually purported to be skilled labor. I'm a z/OS systems programmer (titled as a systems engineer, but that's a stretch).
I actually did work for the federal government for twelve years, leaving their service as a Gunnery Sergeant. I don't think I would care much for census gathering.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2010, 02:22:05 PM » |
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I was mildly surprised it wasn't printed in dual languages.  You mean its printed in spanish? 
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2010, 03:57:33 PM » |
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lol I'm actually purported to be skilled labor. I'm a z/OS systems programmer (titled as a systems engineer, but that's a stretch).
I actually did work for the federal government for twelve years, leaving their service as a Gunnery Sergeant. I don't think I would care much for census gathering. Man, you are OLD if you really ARE a z/OS programmer. When you want to move to Texas, give me a call. We're always looking for mainframe systems guys, but most of them are too near retirement to justify the moving expenses.  We finally found one that is middle aged and have stopped looking, but you never know. Hay  Jimmyt
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2010, 04:02:35 PM » |
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My mailing was two pages for each person.... Heenglish and Hispaniol.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2010, 12:17:00 PM » |
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I answered most of the questions... the ones already in someone else's data base... like the house stuff.
For telephone, I did print "No home telephone" which was true. Didn't say whether or not I had a cell, though.
Hehe.. my wife and I were building our house when the last census rolled around... Our kitchen and bathroom were in a travel trailer next to the house, and we "lived" here:  The questions on the last census were a little different, but I really enjoyed filling it out: Where do you live: South CarolinaHow many rooms in your house: oneDo you have running water: no-Mike Why did you feel the need to build a house? Looks like all you needed was a garage/shop. Redline 
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2010, 12:53:24 PM » |
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Man, you are OLD if you really ARE a z/OS programmer. When you want to move to Texas, give me a call. We're always looking for mainframe systems guys, but most of them are too near retirement to justify the moving expenses.  We finally found one that is middle aged and have stopped looking, but you never know. Yep, Jimmy, I'm counted among the dinosaurs. I don't mind though. After all, I do ride a Valkyrie and most of my friends would better fit in a time and place that is fading fast in the memories of most.
I'm not sure you could afford me anyway. My annual salary is just about that of the president of the United States in the year I would've graduated from high school.
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2010, 01:42:14 PM » |
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Here,Here to the dinosaurs! Havent gotten my census yet but I'll answer the first and let the rest go. I do like the "NASCAR "though. That IS a race, sorta.;
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2010, 03:24:23 PM » |
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Man, you are OLD if you really ARE a z/OS programmer. When you want to move to Texas, give me a call. We're always looking for mainframe systems guys, but most of them are too near retirement to justify the moving expenses.  We finally found one that is middle aged and have stopped looking, but you never know. Yep, Jimmy, I'm counted among the dinosaurs. I don't mind though. After all, I do ride a Valkyrie and most of my friends would better fit in a time and place that is fading fast in the memories of most.
I'm not sure you could afford me anyway. My annual salary is just about that of the president of the United States in the year I would've graduated from high school.
That's OK Willow, a good systems guy is worth their weight in gold, well not my weight... hehehe And yes, we are still in the mainframe segment, some client server apps, but major systems are still on the ole mainframe. Kind of makes me worry though, we have had 3 new mainframes in the past 10 years and I still maintain the same old phone switch. Something wrong there..... I got my census and the concensus is to tell them only what I HAVE to tell them, by law of course. Hay  Jimmyt
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2010, 06:51:34 PM » |
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Under race I stated" Sometimes, if ther are no Cops around"
Was that enough for three hots and cot from Uncle Sam?
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2010, 11:19:55 PM » |
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For the question about race....I put human.
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2010, 03:03:50 AM » |
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For the question about race....I put human.
I like that answer!!!!!! 
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2010, 04:58:28 AM » |
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we never receive a census....10 years ago a census guy came around and had the papers and ask all the questions and he wrote the answers down...the government gets confused by our physical address and our post office box....mail has never been delivered to this physical address since 1914 ....
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2010, 06:37:48 PM » |
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Man, you are OLD if you really ARE a z/OS programmer. When you want to move to Texas, give me a call. We're always looking for mainframe systems guys, but most of them are too near retirement to justify the moving expenses.  We finally found one that is middle aged and have stopped looking, but you never know. Yep, Jimmy, I'm counted among the dinosaurs. I don't mind though. After all, I do ride a Valkyrie and most of my friends would better fit in a time and place that is fading fast in the memories of most.
I'm not sure you could afford me anyway. My annual salary is just about that of the president of the United States in the year I would've graduated from high school.
That's OK Willow, a good systems guy is worth their weight in gold, well not my weight... hehehe And yes, we are still in the mainframe segment, some client server apps, but major systems are still on the ole mainframe. Kind of makes me worry though, we have had 3 new mainframes in the past 10 years and I still maintain the same old phone switch. Something wrong there..... I got my census and the concensus is to tell them only what I HAVE to tell them, by law of course. Hay  Jimmyt I'm such a dinosaur that I don't even know what you guys are talkin about! I thought a mainframe was whut yer truck body was mounted on.  hoser
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2010, 12:43:31 PM » |
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They got three answers from me:
Number of people residing Age of (no DOB) LEGAL US Citizen status under the nationality question
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2010, 07:53:37 PM » |
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They already have most of the answers other than race on tax returns..... and I thought race was supposed to be a nonfactor. Sounds like the census is just more gubbermint make work, you know, one crew digs the hole & the next one fills it back up. 
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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2010, 05:42:20 AM » |
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Here’s your tax dollars hard at work. We received a letter telling us our census form was on its way. ?? Really, was this necessary? Then we received our census form a few days later, which was promptly filled out with the “required” information and mailed the next day. Several days later we received ANOTHER census form, which we as good law abiding US citizens discarded instead of filling out and mailing two, which I’m sure EVERYONE is doing. Now we have received a letter reminding us that it is against the law to not return our census form. Which one?? It’s nice to see responsible government spending. This brought to you by the same people that will be running your healthcare.
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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2010, 05:50:39 AM » |
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And on top of all that horesh!t, last night I see a big, glitzy, expensive commercial on network TV advertising the virtues of the census. All at our expense of course!!!!
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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2010, 06:23:13 AM » |
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We got a follow-up post card from the bureau explaining how we should have gotten our census form "in the past few days", and how important it was to fill it out and return it etc. Plus it spelled out the legalities of not returning it.
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