The Terrorists of Radical Isam HAVE Won

[G-Man]

The Terrorists of Radical Isam HAVE Won

Like it or not, they've beaten us.  They have changed our entire way of lives and thought processes.  From travel to politics to just plain right and wrong.  They have worked their way into the fabric of our society and have captured our weak minded, of which there are way too many, and who are now in the decision making roles.

EVERY SINGLE ISSUE regarding Muslims and Islam come down to this..............If we do/don't do it, Radical Islamic Terrorists will be mad and use it as a recruiting tool to harm more innocent people.  This was the excuse for closing Gitmo, for holding the trial in NY, for burning a book, for going ahead and building the mosque, and others that I can't recall right now.  The Terrorists Have Won.

GWB told us to go shopping, or the terrorists would win.  What a PHUKING joke.  Our Muslim born and raised (Christian???) President won't comment on wisdom.  Another PHUKING joke and a slap in the face.  How's THAT change for ya?  We've lost, people.  Our society has been altered, never to be restored.  I am saddened by this and I am angry that we have citizens with voting priviledges who do not use them wisely.

[Robert]

NOT YET

[Oldswimr]

Or perhaps use them as you think they should? Grow up.

[G-Man]

Or perhaps use them as you think they should? Grow up.

And yet another great reply from, oh I can only guess, a...liberal.  No reply to the actual post.  No insight to thought processes, just a childlike insult sort of.  How liberal.

[BamaDrifter64]

What kind of reply do you want???  You're making a statement and have put it out here for what reason???  You want people to refute what you say?  Then doesn't that mean that you don't believe what you wrote???  Or do you want someone to refute what you say so you can show your intellect?  Neither of your posts make much sense to me - I don't believe the first one and your second one sounds like a liberal to me....

Dave

[JerryB]

Well.........Is it alright for them to decapitate americans,burn our soldiers bodies in the street and hang them up for their people to see and brag about?They burn our flag and mock-ups of our leaders and degrade our religious beliefs while the countries we are fighting in harbor them.The guy is expressing his freedom and we cut him down.Maybe this will pis* them off and draw them out and the U.S. can grow a pair and clean out the gene pool...............They have to be stopped.....JB.

[Jabba]

AT some point... we have to, and will decide, that we have had enough.  And we'll use our superior technology to blow them back to hell, and we'll fight sporadic terriorism for the rest of our lives.

I personally will NOT conform.  I will NOT give in.  I will DIE resisting.  I will lead the revolution, hopefully thru the ballot box, but ultimately, maybe not.

Some things are important.  I am happy to live peacefully amongst them, but they have to reciprocate.  I will not conform or be subjucated.

Jabba

[G-Man]

What kind of reply do you want???  You're making a statement and have put it out here for what reason???  You want people to refute what you say?  Then doesn't that mean that you don't believe what you wrote???  Or do you want someone to refute what you say so you can show your intellect?  Neither of your posts make much sense to me - I don't believe the first one and your second one sounds like a liberal to me....

Dave

I wasn't asking for refute.  I stated my feelings and beliefs.  But, if you are going to refute, at least have something to say, or state why you disagree.

[Cliff]

AT some point... we have to, and will decide, that we have had enough.  And we'll use our superior technology to blow them back to hell, and we'll fight sporadic terriorism for the rest of our lives.

I personally will NOT conform.  I will NOT give in.  I will DIE resisting.  I will lead the revolution, hopefully thru the ballot box, but ultimately, maybe not.

Some things are important.  I am happy to live peacefully amongst them, but they have to reciprocate.  I will not conform or be subjucated.

Jabba

+1 

[G-Man]

I personally will NOT conform.  I will NOT give in. 

Unfortunately, everytime you take your shoes off in the airport, you have given in.  It's sad, but true.  A woman beeped while walking through the metal detector and the "security" guard asked her to remove her sweatshirt.  She did have a shirt underneath, but as she lifted up the sweatshirt to pull over head, the shirt also lifted up and exposed her to the hundreds of people behind her waiting in line to remove their shoes and belts.  This goes on everyday, thousands of time a day.

[JimL]

G-Man agree with most of your post, however when GWB told folks to get out of their houses (or the terrorists win), I thought that was a good (and necessary) message to the American public.  Granted, it was a little easier for him to say and do, since a sitting US President is afforded the protection of the Secret Service!

Jabba...I agree completely.

[Jabba]

I personally will NOT conform.  I will NOT give in. 

Unfortunately, everytime you take your shoes off in the airport, you have given in.  It's sad, but true.  A woman beeped while walking through the metal detector and the "security" guard asked her to remove her sweatshirt.  She did have a shirt underneath, but as she lifted up the sweatshirt to pull over head, the shirt also lifted up and exposed her to the hundreds of people behind her waiting in line to remove their shoes and belts.  This goes on everyday, thousands of time a day.

There is a difference between being affected by, and conformation to a situation.  We're all affected by it.  Our world and lives are different than they were before.  There is no going back.  But that doesn't mean that I've lost, and that I will conform to THEIR way.  I will not. 

Many Americans are are soft.  More worried about their comfort, than the American WAY of life.  I am not religious.  I tolerate religion, as much as religious people tolerate me.  Christians and Jews seem to tolerate me pretty well.  As do Hindu's, Buddhists, Pagans, and even most Muslims.  However, I got no use for the whack jobs.  That goes for the whacko Christians protesting soldiers funerals as well as terrorists.

I will mourn no more for them when someone does them in than I will for the terrorists that get blown into whatever rediculous afterlife is promised them.  We'd ALL be a lot better off without them.

Jabba

[G-Man]

We're all affected by it.  Our world and lives are different than they were before.  There is no going back. 

THIS......is EXACTLY my point.  And to add to this,  decisions are being made in the wrong direction (IMO) based on upseting radicals. 

[Oss]

Gary,   I dont agree with the premise although you make some valid points.  Life is a battlefield

There are many skirmishes, battles, firefights, ceasefires........you get the idea

IMHO and its worth what you are paying for it, we are where the US was in 1939 as far as recognizing
the threat of the Nazis and the Japanese, only this idealogy is different

It is more cunning and savy in its use of the media, getting away with things like kidnappings, murders,
beheadings, stonings, use of movie images that Goebbels dreamed of, manipulation of government through moneys funnelled through "religious exempt" and diplomatic pouches. We need a media that is our voice  one that is impervious to the politically correct drones  One that will not allow a message that a people has no right to exist.  

The war has been going on for generations,  it shall continue as long as men who profess a belief in their superiority and the idea that other life means nothing can sway the masses of the ignorant, the hungry and the desperate. Many brave soldiers and innocent civilians will perish.

I have thought for some time that until WOMEN have the right to be heard, to walk in freedom to preach from a Mosque that there is no future of peace for such as I who live in the world

Perhaps only a gender who knows bringing life into the world can end the time of Mohammed on earth and re write their Koran if such a thing is possible at all

I pray for a time when nations will not wage war and people of all religions will allow people of other religions to simply live, but have no illusions this will be in our lifetime.  I have read many times
"The Lord will bless those who bless us and curse those who curse us".  
When is the last time a Babylonian came up to you? or a Roman? what happened to the Spanish empire?  remember the 1000 yr reich?   Lets face it radical Islam has no use for us, for christians, hindus or anyone that is not like them.  The war will rage as we worry about not offending those who wish us ill.  Fortunately every 4 years we get to elect a new Commander in Chief and every 2 years we can turn out the whole House of Representatives.  I will be behind the idea of Misfits post  about Congresss not being above the people  that is a good place to start to fight back here at home

And I refuse to allow the thought to enter my mind till after letting out my last breathe that the enemy has won.

Happy new year anyway Gary and best to you Cheryl and the kids

Now I am gonna take a ride on my Valkyrie and count my blessings.

[BamaDrifter64]

I don't agree with your premise that the extreme islamists have won simply b/c we take more into consideration with decisions and have enacted more security measures since 9/11.  We did the same with Pearl Harbor.  If someone attacks us and as a result, we have to suffer through tighter security measures to enhance safety for everyone, that's not a win for them.  That allows us to keep them from doing more and possibly winning in the end.  We can't bury our heads in the sand and think they'll just disappear.

What I fault for the present mess are the liberal "do-gooders".  Those who live for political correctness and have weakened our country not only in the world's eyes, but in her own citizens' eyes.

I live in the South and I will protect mine, with actions and firepower, if necessary.

My beliefs:

1.  Get the U.S. out of all foreign countries and take care of her own first.
2.  You can only be as civilized in war as your enemy.  If we aren't as brutal as our enemy, it's viewed as a sign of weakness. 
3.  If we need to waterboard to get info to protect our soldiers & citizens, we waterboard.
4.  A war is fought to be won.  Keep the reporters off the warfield and do what you have to do to win as quickly as possible.  They want to report on the war, they do it at their own risk.  Friendly fire sucks for them.
5.  No politician should be able to make decisions regarding warfare.  The President should be able to order the commanding general to go fight - but let the general do his job from that point on.
6.  The U.S. is the premier country in the world.  The U.S. should be respected and feared.  Yes, I said feared.  If a little country decides to kick sand in the U.S' face, it should not only be prepared, but expect, to receive dire consequences. 

[3fan4life]

They haven't won the war but it isn't looking good for the home team.

Our so called leaders DO NOT understand the enemy that we are fighting, MOST Americans DO NOT understand the enemy that we are fighting. TOO MANY are just playing like an ostrich a sticking their heads in the sand while others play like a possum and just roll over and play dead.

When the Commander and Chief of the armed forces along with A top ranking General go on television worldwide to say to a pastor of a 50 member congregation, "Please don't burn the Koran. Because, it will put our soldiers at risk."  They only bolster our enemies and firm up their resolve against us.

And then they do this while BOWING DOWN to another one of our enemies that wants to dishonor the people who died at the WTC on 9/11.

And if you think that our enemies don't feed off of this kind of thing you are WRONG.

This same guy that wants to build the Mosque near Ground Zero is now hinting that if his Mosque isn't built that violence will ensue. And at the same time he has the AUDACITY to call Americans who DON'T WANT  his mosque built at Ground Zero, RADICALS.

A recent poll shows that 73% of Americans DO NOT WANT his mosque built there. To me that means that it is the WILL of the American People to not have a mosque there. 

Since when are 73% of the American People Radical and 27% the non radicals? 

In the eyes of Muslims, Americans are Fat, Lazy and COWARDS.

What we see as trying to hold to our values and compromise they see as WEAKNESS and COWARDICE.

These  people have been fighting for thousands of years.

They have been fighting for so long that it is the only thing that they know. It is the only thing that they understand and it is the only thing that they respect.

These are irrational and unreasonable people, and no amount of attempting to appease them will ever be successful. 

They want and seek the destruction of every non- muslim in the world. And unless you were born a muslim then that means YOU and EVERYONE that you hold near and dear to you.


Islam is not a religion it is a CULT with an agenda.

So, the war hasn’t been WON by our enemy yet.  But, unless our leaders and the American people as a whole wake up soon,  OUR ENEMIES WILL WIN.

The 9th Anniversary of 9/11 will be here in a couple of days. It will be interesting to see if the mass media does or does not display the images from that day, of our country under attack. There are some that say that we should not view the images from that day. They want us to believe that it only breeds hatred and anger.

Well I say that we should harbor hatred in our hearts for the actions of the people that brought an attack upon our soil that killed 3,000 innocent Americans that day. And, we should be ANGRY with them and the ones around the world that CELEBRATED their deaths.

We are at WAR with these people because they DECLARED WAR upon us and ATTACKED US on OUR SOIL.

And we will be at war with these people until they have KILLED ALL OF US or we have KILLED ALL OF THEM.

The question is, which do you think is the better solution?   

[valkMJ]

tldr

I thought we were talking about bikes here...   

[Jabba]

tldr

I thought we were talking about bikes here...   

Not in THIS one.

We need a little Truman here now don't we... we NUKED Japan, and they have been our buddies for the last 50 years.

Jabba

[valkmc]

Islam is not a religion it is a CULT with an agenda.

I disagree with the above statement, I can not stand the religion called Islam for many reasons one of which is the radicals that have used it to futher their points of view and agenda. Make no mistake other religions have had the same view point, convert, give up your possesions or die. It is a problem that appears when one group believes they are the chosen ones and the rest of the population are heathans. It has happened many times and religion is most often the blame.

I do not believe the radicals have won. So it takes me a little longer to get on a plane, I can still get on one anytime I like, I can afford to get on one even though I am a common citizen with a regular job. I walk down the street at night and I am not afraid because there are policeman in my area who do their job, and I have the right to carry a weapon (which I do) so I can protect my own a$$.

F the Taliban, however the Taliban is not all Muslims. 

[G-Man]

When we are allowed to make our own decisions based on our own needs, wants, desires, etc, then and only then have we not lost.  I am not speaking to individual needs, wants, desires, etc, but to our country as a whole.

However, when our decisions are based on whether or not we are going to upset a radical terrorist group, and have to live with these decisions that WE DON'T WANT IN THE FIRST PLACE, we have lost.  THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING, so how can we possibley say that we have NOT lost?  We are allowing terrorists to dictate our decisions and now it is being used against us.  Last night, on national TV, the Imam clearly stated that he has the RESPONSIBILITY to build this mosque in order to avoid retalliation from terrorists.  3/4 of our population say NO, but will be overridden by terrorists.  Can you not see the insanity here?

I understand that we are very stubborn and proud as a country and that it is very difficult to admitt defeat, but we need to take hold of this defeat and accept it in order to become stronger and move forward.

[ricoman]

Sadly, I must agree.
Even sadder is that this post has been read nearly 200 times and only 20 responses.
That leads me to believe that not enough people know, comprehend, or even care what is happening in this country. Ours is not the only one, read up on the social changes in great Britain and france being made to "accommodate" muslims. It is happening here as well.
Surely there are a few who will go down fighting (or say they will, because it sounds tough). But they will go down.
I am glad I won't go through it.

[x]

ZZZZZZZzzzzzz...ESPECIALLY when someone thinks they need large font to prove their point.  And it's nonsense.

The Terrorists of Radical Isam HAVE Won

Like it or not, they've beaten us.  They have changed our entire way of lives and thought processes.  From travel to politics to just plain right and wrong.  They have worked their way into the fabric of our society and have captured our weak minded, of which there are way too many, and who are now in the decision making roles.

EVERY SINGLE ISSUE regarding Muslims and Islam come down to this..............If we do/don't do it, Radical Islamic Terrorists will be mad and use it as a recruiting tool to harm more innocent people.  This was the excuse for closing Gitmo, for holding the trial in NY, for burning a book, for going ahead and building the mosque, and others that I can't recall right now.  The Terrorists Have Won.

GWB told us to go shopping, or the terrorists would win.  What a PHUKING joke.  Our Muslim born and raised (Christian???) President won't comment on wisdom.  Another PHUKING joke and a slap in the face.  How's THAT change for ya?  We've lost, people.  Our society has been altered, never to be restored.  I am saddened by this and I am angry that we have citizens with voting priviledges who do not use them wisely.

[Skinhead]

G-man,

I say bring it!  If the radicals react with violence, maybe the fine Americans will wake up.  When people started worrying about offending them with cartoons of momhamed, they should have published comic books.  Who cares what they threaten to do?  9/11 told us they are serious, we need to be serious as well.  If they kill innocent people, hunt them down and kill them.  Their very existence offends me, but I am tolerant of them, until they infringe upon my rights.  If those in this country don't agree with the radicals, they damn sure better take a stand and start denouncing them LOUD AND CLEAR!

Any one got a match?

[fudgie]

Jeez guys, what about their civil rights?

 

[buffalobill]

I am not choosing sides here, as I do not really care if you choose to chastise me for what I believe. I am a Christian, a falling down, getting up and struggling forward Christian. In my heart I know Jesus and I take him at his word, which sadly I can't do with this board. He has never lied, never will. He said if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father. This is after He was quoted saying "No one gets to the Father, but through me". There, that settles it, you trust your life to Jesus, you live forever with Him. You don't, you won't. I am tired of hearing the term "religion" used incorrectly, as that is a man made set of doctrines, Christianity is a relationship with Jesus.
 I do not mean to belittle this point, for it means everything, but most won't let go of this world, what it has to offer and they will die eternally seperated from the one who truly loves them, who laid down His very own life for a ransom.
 But we want to judge right from wrong, good from evil and we ourselves are not trusting Him today, let alone yesterday or tomorrow. "revenge is mine, saith the Lord", but we want to LOCK-UP, NUKE, KILL, DESTROY OR REFORM anyone who does not agree with us. I have my conceal carry, I exercise my rights and will til I die, but I only will to protect my loved ones or my life.
 This war has been going on since Abraham fathered Ishmael and Isaac, do your homework. I get just as upset, frustrated and desperate as most here from time to time, til I take a step back and think of who is ultimately in control. Jabba, I agree with some of your sentiment, Gary I feel for you more than you know. I have two sons, a 27 year old Pastor who lost his only child at 7 months, and a 21 year old in College out of state. I want the very best for them, as I am sure all of us want, and the only way I can help them is to point them to the TRUTH.
 This world is just recoiling from the weight of SIN, mine, yours and theirs. God will heal this one day, but if we think we can do it, we are only fooling ourselves.
 I am now ready for the "responses", but I do not care about my reputation among men, just so long as I honor Him.
God bless us, every one,
buffalobill

[Skinhead]

BuffaloBill,

Why would anyone here chastise you?  You are entirely free to believe what ever you want, I admire you for your conviction.  What i don't like is the fear there appears to be of radical muslims, they are a plague on society and until the mainstream muslims join the rest of society in denouncing them, I have no use for them.  I am choosing sides.

May God bless and keep you and yours.

[BamaDrifter64]

I am not choosing sides here, as I do not really care if you choose to chastise me for what I believe. I am a Christian, a falling down, getting up and struggling forward Christian. In my heart I know Jesus and I take him at his word, which sadly I can't do with this board. He has never lied, never will. He said if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father. This is after He was quoted saying "No one gets to the Father, but through me". There, that settles it, you trust your life to Jesus, you live forever with Him. You don't, you won't. I am tired of hearing the term "religion" used incorrectly, as that is a man made set of doctrines, Christianity is a relationship with Jesus.
 I do not mean to belittle this point, for it means everything, but most won't let go of this world, what it has to offer and they will die eternally seperated from the one who truly loves them, who laid down His very own life for a ransom.
 But we want to judge right from wrong, good from evil and we ourselves are not trusting Him today, let alone yesterday or tomorrow. "revenge is mine, saith the Lord", but we want to LOCK-UP, NUKE, KILL, DESTROY OR REFORM anyone who does not agree with us. I have my conceal carry, I exercise my rights and will til I die, but I only will to protect my loved ones or my life.
 This war has been going on since Abraham fathered Ishmael and Isaac, do your homework. I get just as upset, frustrated and desperate as most here from time to time, til I take a step back and think of who is ultimately in control. Jabba, I agree with some of your sentiment, Gary I feel for you more than you know. I have two sons, a 27 year old Pastor who lost his only child at 7 months, and a 21 year old in College out of state. I want the very best for them, as I am sure all of us want, and the only way I can help them is to point them to the TRUTH.
 This world is just recoiling from the weight of SIN, mine, yours and theirs. God will heal this one day, but if we think we can do it, we are only fooling ourselves.
 I am now ready for the "responses", but I do not care about my reputation among men, just so long as I honor Him.
God bless us, every one,
buffalobill

BB,

I 100% wholeheartedly agree with you - but I add that there are times to "turn the other cheek" and times to fight.  The Bible talks of many battles - battles where God blessed his believers and led them to victory.  Being a Christian does not mean allowing others to walk all over you.

[Jabba]

What i don't like is the fear there appears to be of radical muslims, they are a plague on society and until the mainstream muslims join the rest of society in denouncing them, I have no use for them.  I am choosing sides.

Yep.

Like you said to me in Bardstown... "I KNEW there was a reason I like you..."

I ain't afraid.  I won't be subjegated.  I will tolerate them, as long as they tolerate me, and right now... the radicals are not. 

I am not calling to kill Muslims... but rather to kill TERRORISTS.  A LOT of them.

Jabba

[Bobbo]

I am not choosing sides here, as I do not really care if you choose to chastise me for what I believe. I am a Christian, a falling down, getting up and struggling forward Christian. In my heart I know Jesus and I take him at his word, which sadly I can't do with this board. He has never lied, never will. He said if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father. This is after He was quoted saying "No one gets to the Father, but through me". There, that settles it, you trust your life to Jesus, you live forever with Him. You don't, you won't. I am tired of hearing the term "religion" used incorrectly, as that is a man made set of doctrines, Christianity is a relationship with Jesus.
 I do not mean to belittle this point, for it means everything, but most won't let go of this world, what it has to offer and they will die eternally seperated from the one who truly loves them, who laid down His very own life for a ransom.
 But we want to judge right from wrong, good from evil and we ourselves are not trusting Him today, let alone yesterday or tomorrow. "revenge is mine, saith the Lord", but we want to LOCK-UP, NUKE, KILL, DESTROY OR REFORM anyone who does not agree with us. I have my conceal carry, I exercise my rights and will til I die, but I only will to protect my loved ones or my life.
 This war has been going on since Abraham fathered Ishmael and Isaac, do your homework. I get just as upset, frustrated and desperate as most here from time to time, til I take a step back and think of who is ultimately in control. Jabba, I agree with some of your sentiment, Gary I feel for you more than you know. I have two sons, a 27 year old Pastor who lost his only child at 7 months, and a 21 year old in College out of state. I want the very best for them, as I am sure all of us want, and the only way I can help them is to point them to the TRUTH.
 This world is just recoiling from the weight of SIN, mine, yours and theirs. God will heal this one day, but if we think we can do it, we are only fooling ourselves.
 I am now ready for the "responses", but I do not care about my reputation among men, just so long as I honor Him.
God bless us, every one,
buffalobill

While I may not have the same beliefs as you, I commend you for taking the high road.  Maybe others who claim to have the same beliefs can learn from your example.

[f6john]

ZZZZZZZzzzzzz...ESPECIALLY when someone thinks they need large font to prove their point.  And it's nonsense.

The Terrorists of Radical Isam HAVE Won

Like it or not, they've beaten us.  They have changed our entire way of lives and thought processes.  From travel to politics to just plain right and wrong.  They have worked their way into the fabric of our society and have captured our weak minded, of which there are way too many, and who are now in the decision making roles.

EVERY SINGLE ISSUE regarding Muslims and Islam come down to this..............If we do/don't do it, Radical Islamic Terrorists will be mad and use it as a recruiting tool to harm more innocent people.  This was the excuse for closing Gitmo, for holding the trial in NY, for burning a book, for going ahead and building the mosque, and others that I can't recall right now.  The Terrorists Have Won.

GWB told us to go shopping, or the terrorists would win.  What a PHUKING joke.  Our Muslim born and raised (Christian???) President won't comment on wisdom.  Another PHUKING joke and a slap in the face.  How's THAT change for ya?  We've lost, people.  Our society has been altered, never to be restored.  I am saddened by this and I am angry that we have citizens with voting priviledges who do not use them wisely.

   thanks for that insightful reply, completely clears it up for me, also notice no large font.

[Oldswimr]

Or perhaps use them as you think they should? Grow up.

And yet another great reply from, oh I can only guess, a...liberal.  No reply to the actual post.  No insight to thought processes, just a childlike insult sort of.  How liberal.

Nope. A conservative patriot from the Great State of Texas. 20+ year retired veteran. 5 kids, lovely wife. Have served with many faiths and ethnicities. And what I know is that all Muslim people are not radicals, just like I know all Christians are not out shooting up abortion offices. If anyone here would take the time to do the research, you would see that Islam has been practiced in this country for quite some time. Along with Judaism, Buddhism, Satanic Worship, etc. And if you look at major causes of death in this country, drunk driving has killed more people than terrorism. It just doesn't get the airplay on the major networks, unless a football star or movie personality is involved.

This country has been attacked before, and guess what, it will happen again. Perhaps not in my lifetime, but it will happen. You want peace? Me too, and it comes at a cost. And you don't get it by "bombing them back to Hell".. Bomb WHO back to hell?? Geez, if this is the new 'conservative speak', you can have it. This attitude is similar to those nutjobs at Westboro. WHy not just put everyone who ISN'T like you in an interment camp, until we can sort all this out? Hmmm, let me think. BECAUSE WE DID THAT BEFORE AND IT DIDN'T WORK!
And please don't hit me about thought processes. You don't want someone to disagree with your opinion? KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. And I processed all this while buffing out the last coat of wax on my I/S. SO there, bike-related..

[Oss]

anyone notice the Moslems for Marriage ad at the bottom of this page

gotta love the google ads if thats what they are

unfortunately since I am not a muslim I can only have the one wife, she is more than enough

but I can look for a new secretary from time to time

[f6john]

      What this country needs more than anything right now is energy independence and I believe we could have it, if it was our number 1 goal. As long as the entire earth is dependent on that part of the world for our very lifeblood we are over a barrel (literally millions of them) and we have to keep sticking our nose in their business. We need wind farms where they make sense. We need solar panels where they make sense. We need to fully develop geo-thermal and hydo-electric power where it makes sense. We need battery technology that will allow for extended range driving.
     It doesn't matter so much that all this takes time, what is important is that our country as a whole embrace the idea that we can't solve everyone elses problems and ignore our own. We need that same mindset that the country had during WW-2 when winning was the only option and everything humanly possible was done to see that happen.
     Instead what we have is our representatives arguing over how to handle tax cuts and who will look like the winner in the outcome, a jackass or a "pac-e-derm"

[valkmc]

     What this country needs more than anything right now is energy independence and I believe we could have it, if it was our number 1 goal. As long as the entire earth is dependent on that part of the world for our very lifeblood we are over a barrel (literally millions of them) and we have to keep sticking our nose in their business. We need wind farms where they make sense. We need solar panels where they make sense. We need to fully develop geo-thermal and hydo-electric power where it makes sense. We need battery technology that will allow for extended range driving.
     It doesn't matter so much that all this takes time, what is important is that our country as a whole embrace the idea that we can't solve everyone elses problems and ignore our own. We need that same mindset that the country had during WW-2 when winning was the only option and everything humanly possible was done to see that happen.
     Instead what we have is our representatives arguing over how to handle tax cuts and who will look like the winner in the outcome, a jackass or a "pac-e-derm"

Well said............

[big turkey]

Well get used to change.

Nuclear Weapons changed the world.

WW II changed the world.

Vietnam changed how we view the world.

Disco is dead.

Jesus changed the World.

Romans changed the world.

Just about everything that has been invented changed the world.

What is the problem.

The Mosque at Ground Zero is wrong and nothing will change that.

[Bobbo]

Or perhaps use them as you think they should? Grow up.

And yet another great reply from, oh I can only guess, a...liberal.  No reply to the actual post.  No insight to thought processes, just a childlike insult sort of.  How liberal.

Nope. A conservative patriot from the Great State of Texas. 20+ year retired veteran. 5 kids, lovely wife. Have served with many faiths and ethnicities. And what I know is that all Muslim people are not radicals, just like I know all Christians are not out shooting up abortion offices. If anyone here would take the time to do the research, you would see that Islam has been practiced in this country for quite some time. Along with Judaism, Buddhism, Satanic Worship, etc. And if you look at major causes of death in this country, drunk driving has killed more people than terrorism. It just doesn't get the airplay on the major networks, unless a football star or movie personality is involved.

This country has been attacked before, and guess what, it will happen again. Perhaps not in my lifetime, but it will happen. You want peace? Me too, and it comes at a cost. And you don't get it by "bombing them back to Hell".. Bomb WHO back to hell?? Geez, if this is the new 'conservative speak', you can have it. This attitude is similar to those nutjobs at Westboro. WHy not just put everyone who ISN'T like you in an interment camp, until we can sort all this out? Hmmm, let me think. BECAUSE WE DID THAT BEFORE AND IT DIDN'T WORK!
And please don't hit me about thought processes. You don't want someone to disagree with your opinion? KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. And I processed all this while buffing out the last coat of wax on my I/S. SO there, bike-related..

There is a small clique here that loves to throw around the “L” word towards anyone who doesn’t support their simple knee-jerk reactions to complex situations.  Rational responses seem to draw more name calling and encourage others in the clique to jump in.  Use of the word “Liberal” here has become a substitute for calling someone a dirty name.  I doubt the name callers even know the meaning or origin of that word.

[alph]

G-Man,

Let me tell you something.  If George w bush wanted to kill terrorism, he would have hit them were it hurts and DEMANDED the three auto makers to produce a non gasoline engine, or some other alternative fuel type of vehicle, BUT NO! He has to keep his Texas oil buddy happy while the continuing money transfer to Saudi Arabia goes unchecked!!  We didn’t have to send a single bomb to Iraq or Afghanistan.  We could have made the Saudis so hungry for food that THEY would have given us binladin to us!!

Why is it that only Japanese companies are producing electric cars?  We hear all this talk about the Chevy “volt” but, when’s it going to get to market???

Just my thought. 

[MP]

I think the Volt will be a big loser.

Expected price,  over $41,000.  The exact same car, but gas only, will sell for $17,000.

How many miles to pay for that?

Also, it will be far LESS green than the gas version.  By the time you would figure in all the extra energy needed to produce the battery, engine, etc, and that used by the buyers in earning the extra $24,000, it is a BIG LOSER, in the green area.

MP

[RoadKill]

G-Man,

Let me tell you something.  If George w bush wanted to kill terrorism, he would have hit them were it hurts and DEMANDED the three auto makers to produce a non gasoline engine, or some other alternative fuel type of vehicle, BUT NO! He has to keep his Texas oil buddy happy while the continuing money transfer to Saudi Arabia goes unchecked!!  We didn’t have to send a single bomb to Iraq or Afghanistan.  We could have made the Saudis so hungry for food that THEY would have given us binladin to us!!

Why is it that only Japanese companies are producing electric cars?  We hear all this talk about the Chevy “volt” but, when’s it going to get to market???

Just my thought.  

Well,Damn ! ? Why did'n anyone else think of that? Maybe Obama should just set the price per barrel for O.P.E.C and force G.M. to make American made VCR's and "Tickle me Elmo"dolls for Christmas? Keep the money here,ya know

Why stop there...He should give free gasoline to every one so they can go to work and pay taxes,let's tell G.E. to stop with the light bulbs and kitchen appliances and FORCE them to build an electric "peoples car " and we can name it Volkswagen in memory of Auschwitz !    Look at me ! I'm a freakin democratic genius! i just solved EVERYTHING !    

[oxfordhog]

No mosque at Ground Zero	powered by Aeva

Some of you folks may care to listen to what this Brit has to say.

Sorry I don't know how to post a copy of the "video" on to this reply