Fuss about Seafoam ?

[ldrandler]

DragonRiders,

Somebody please explain to me what all this fuss is about Seafoam.  The stuff smells like isoprophyl alcohol to me.  Since ethanol gas is corn liquor (moonshine !) (alcohol !), why bother with the Seafoam ?  Might as well just run ethanol gas and get the same effect.

[Serk]

I'm NOT an expert in the stuff, but according to the MSDS, it's only 10% - 20% Isopropyl alcohol.

Pale Oil 40%-60%
Naphtha - 25%-35%
Isopropyl alcohol - 10%-20%

[Momz]

Do not drink Seafoam while simultainiously texting and driving.
You could type a stupid message and crash.

[JetDriver]

DragonRiders,

Somebody please explain to me what all this fuss is about Seafoam. 

Because it seems to work.  I have found it stabilizes fuel for much longer periods of time than Stabil, and it seems to keep internal parts clean.  Have to admit, though, I would be interested in seeing more scientific evidence.

[Jeff K]

Personally I think the main ingredient is...
oil of snake

I've soaked things in seafoam. It doesn't do much of anything. It might be good for a fuel stabilizer, but beyond that I think it's good for lubricating snakes.

[98valk]

much better products out there at a lower cost, ReGaine, amsoil, and redline.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,9133.0.html

and

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,10605.0.html

I will not use seafoam for that purpose, only sta-bil. 
Last line from another site indicates seafoam could be cause of HYDRO-LOCK.

They say its 100% petroleum.
http://www.seafoamsales.com/gas-engines/gasoline-engines/e-85-fuels/view.html

The MSDS says otherwise
http://www.seafoamsales.com/consumer-information/trans-tune/msds-trans-tune/view-2.html

IPA 67-63-0 is Isopropyl alcohol
http://www.chemblink.com/products/67-63-0.htm

very expensive for this purpose, seafoam is only 10-20%. Iso-heat, sta-bil are much more cost effective IMO.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-isopropyl-alcohol.htm
Isopropyl alcohol is also a component of additives intended to prevent or treat water accumulation in fuel lines, such as “dry gas.” In fact, it helps to reduce the risk of water freezing in fuel lines. It does this by making the water soluble, which would otherwise separate from the gasoline and turn to ice during cold weather.

Seafoam Ingredients
CAS # Wt.%
Pale Oil 64742-54-7 40.00 - 60.00% N/Av >15000 mg/kg >5000 mg/kg
Naphtha 64742-49-0 25.00 - 35.00% N/Av >5000 mg/kg N/Av
IPA 67-63-0 10.00 - 20.00% 17000ppm 4720mg/kg 12890mg/kg


http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/203184-seafoam-contains-10-20-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa.html
Seafoam will absorb small amounts of water. What it will not fix is E10 that has phase separated.
PALE OILS are light coloured, non-staining naphthenic oils refined from specially selected wax-free crude through the use of severe hydrogenation. This process produces oils of excellent initial colour and colour stability while maintaining their compatibility with most synthetic elastomers. With a flash point of 330 degreee F or more. E10 flash point is around -40 degrees F. Diesel is around 143 degrees F by the way. Have you ever wondered why Seafoam will stall your gasoilne engine unless you rev the piss out of it. Well now you know; the stuff does not want to go BOOM.
Naphtha flash point is a little lower then gasoline. If want to buy Naphtha go buy some Coleman Stove Fuel.
Seafoam has a flash point of 55 degrees F and gasoline is -40 degrees F. That is why when you pour it in a carb the engine wants to die.
Bottom line is the stuff seems to work in the old 2 cycle outboards I have tried. Now filling the racor with straight seafoam seems like you are asking for trouble. The stuff does not want to burn like gasoline and by filling the racor that is exactly you are trying to do. Anybody hydrolocked a motor trying this?

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I like it because it seems to work. I've got a few of examples to give you.

A deer camp buddy brought an old Honda generator to camp last winter. He had just bought it and it was hard to start, wouldn't run without the choke and used a lot of gas. He had tried whatever gas-line cleaner was popular at his base and said that he thought the carb would have to be rebuilt. He's with a mechanized unit and is in charge of such things. After the first week he left the generator with me. I put half a can of sea foam in my 5 gallon gas can and used it in the generator. After two tanks it ran without the choke, started better and a tank of gas was lasting twice as long. Maybe it would have cured it's self without seafoam, I don't know. But he says it's still running good and he uses Seafoam himself now.

Another example is my 97 Dodge truck which was dying at stop signs until I ran a can of seafoam through it last summer when my daughter owned it. It's still running strong and not dying.

Another instance was when Andy and I both got bad gas at a BP when we were headed West on our trip. The bikes ran terrible and mine started popping out the right exhaust. Andy's was OK after getting fresh gas but mine kept popping, bad! I found some Seafoam at a Rural King in South Dakota and used it in my valk. The popping quit within 25 miles and still hasn't come back.

Maybe it's all coincidence but it seems to work to me.

[12voltclothing]

Seafoam has been around forever. It cleans all the syrup residue from corn gas in your carbs or injectors..
I've used it for 25 years as a fuel conditioner and for winter storage. Never any problems.

I use a ounce per gallon every few fillups on the cars & bikes.. Also use it in my snowblower, lawn mower etc, any engine

Store by me has it for $5 on sale. I stock up then.

All i know is it works, as millions of other people say

[Jeff K]

Seafoam has been around forever. It cleans all the syrup residue from corn gas in your carbs or injectors..
I've used it for 25 years as a fuel conditioner and for winter storage. Never any problems.

I use a ounce per gallon every few fillups on the cars & bikes.. Also use it in my snowblower, lawn mower etc, any engine

Store by me has it for $5 on sale. I stock up then.

All i know is it works, as millions of other people say

The stuff I use hasn't failed me yet. I've been using the same thing for decades and it's always done me well. Cheap too. I used to put stabil in my sleds, but I use the same thing on everything else... nothing.
And oddly enough it works GREAT!

[Stanley Steamer]

I just add a couple of dollops of KY jelly to every third tank......and the Old Girl runs like a charm!!......

[fudgie]

I like it as a stabilizer. Regain is the best carb cleaner I found.

[fudgie]

I just add a couple of dollops of KY jelly to every third tank......and the Old Girl runs like a charm!!......

I see you travel prepared! 

[Stanley Steamer]

I just add a couple of dollops of KY jelly to every third tank......and the Old Girl runs like a charm!!......

I see you travel prepared! 

"Be Prepared!!"........

[Sparky]

My fast black 99 was not running very smooth. I tried another additive that did squat. After a concentrated hit of Seafoam ran through one tank she settled right into her smooth purr.

I'm sold on Seafoam.

[fuzzy2bucks]

Sea Foam is the best gas stabilizer and gas rejuvenator I've ever used.  I put it in everything from lawn mowers to FJ Cruiser. 

[gregk]

 Pretty well cut & dried. I know it works and will continue to use it .

[ldrandler]

DragonRiders,

Thanks to everyone for their input.  Seems like most comments are favorable.  I have one ounce per gallon in my tank right now and will continue to do so until the can I bought is used up.  I am half way thru the tank as of today and really haven't notice any difference.  I wasn't having any issues, just wanted to try this stuff out and see if it did anything.  I normally get 35-38 MPG; I'll check at the end of this tank of gas and see if any effect in that area. 

[alph]

funny!!  i just filled up the other night and i put seafoam in my tank!!  i've used it in my truck, van, daughters car, my old car, my old cycle.....  it seems to work good 'cause i don't have any issues afterwards and everything keeps running!!  i have noticed my cycle is running good, don't know if it's the seafoam, or because i haven't riden in over a week and i miss my girl!!  i have a good buddy that's a mechanic and he sweres by the stuff.

al.

[JetDriver]

I am half way thru the tank as of today and really haven't notice any difference.  I wasn't having any issues, just wanted to try this stuff out and see if it did anything.  

I'm not sure I'd be looking for any differences if you weren't having issues in the first place- it's not Nitrous Oxide or anything!  It's a solvent that lightly dissolves gunk in the carbs and fuel system, and it's a fuel stabilizer.  I wouldn't even look for increased mpg- if anything, it seems like the mpg would go down, because, as has been discussed earlier in this thread, it doesn't burn so well on it's own.

[Ben]

The easy answer is in a quick question.....Do You want to clean six carbs or do you want the  sea foam to do it??
Safe winds ,ya'll 1
BEN

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

I like it.Does it work? seems to work for me. I use it in everything that runs on gas. The thing it seem to help most was the fuel guage in my 90 model Blazer was useless below a half a tank. It would swing from empty to a half and all over between. After a full can of seafoam it started to settled down and now is working like new. It saved me a bunch of money and trouble. If I'ld had to replace the sending unit, it ment pulling trailer hitch, skid pan and dropping the tank. Would any other cleaner have fixed this problem I don't know but I used seafoam so I standby it. JMHO

[Chattanooga Mark]

What fuss??? You like it, use it. You don't, don't. Nothing to fuss over. I've been very happily using it for years.

All the best,

Mark

[Steve K (IA)]

DragonRiders,

Thanks to everyone for their input.  Seems like most comments are favorable.  I have one ounce per gallon in my tank right now and will continue to do so until the can I bought is used up.  I am half way thru the tank as of today and really haven't notice any difference.  I wasn't having any issues, just wanted to try this stuff out and see if it did anything.  I normally get 35-38 MPG; I'll check at the end of this tank of gas and see if any effect in that area. 

I doubt you will see any increase in mpg.  35 - 38 ain't bad. 

I have 2 Valks and use the 1 oz to 1 gal ratio when I top off the tanks when winter comes, and then once during the summer.  No carb problems.

I had an old push lawn mower and the engine rpm started to surge.  I  put a shot of Seafoam in the tank as it was running, and within 30 seconds, it smoothed out.

[bogator]

  I tried that KY jelly on a piece of toast------man that stuff taste horrable--I wonder if it comes in strawberry?? as for gas treatment----I use Marvel mistery oil.and lucas stuff. My 2 cents.

[alph]

  I tried that KY jelly on a piece of toast------man that stuff taste horrable--I wonder if it comes in strawberry?? as for gas treatment----I use Marvel mistery oil.and lucas stuff. My 2 cents.

They make a flavored KY jelly, problem is, makes your tongue tingle!!  But the wife'll have a great orgasm!!

[hotglue #43]

I met a young couple that didn't know the difference between K-Y jelly and window putty...........


all their windows fell out........

I like Seafoam......seems to work!  use in the lawnmower and Kawasaki Mule.

[fudgie]

DragonRiders,

Thanks to everyone for their input.  Seems like most comments are favorable.  I have one ounce per gallon in my tank right now and will continue to do so until the can I bought is used up.  I am half way thru the tank as of today and really haven't notice any difference.  I wasn't having any issues, just wanted to try this stuff out and see if it did anything.  I normally get 35-38 MPG; I'll check at the end of this tank of gas and see if any effect in that area. 

You want mpg increase use Gumout Regain. I was getting 32 mpg for a few years till I used regain in July. Now I get 36 mpg.

[JetDriver]

I met a young couple that didn't know the difference between K-Y jelly and window putty...........


all their windows fell out........

Seems like we can get at least one more joke out of this....

[T.P.]

STABIL..............Well you can't find any MSDS info on their website,  I called them and no return call.
But here is some more reading stuff http://www.goldeagle.com/engine_care/411onethanol.aspx

Of the 5 products tested, why not SEAFOAM ???  http://www.goldeagle.com/UserFiles/file/Ethanol%20411/Gold%20Eagle%20eGas%20Article%20PSL.pdf


I'm a firm user of SEAFOAM Motor Treatment and their BUGS B Gone Product.    T.P.

[Serk]

STABIL..............Well you can't find any MSDS info on their website

Here ya' go, looks like the MSDS for Sta-Bil...

http://ilrc.ucf.edu/documents/ILRC%2000000023/MSDS%2000000023.pdf

[czuch]

I've used it a few times. I've also used Marvel, and the Ol'Skool diesel.
I like diesel best. Even in the 36' motorhome it helped.
Begin sling stones and arrows now.

[JetDriver]

I've used it a few times. I've also used Marvel, and the Ol'Skool diesel.
I like diesel best. Even in the 36' motorhome it helped.
Begin sling stones and arrows now.

I'm old, but apparently not old enough.  Are you talking about regular diesel fuel bought at the gas station/truck stops?  It works as a solvent in the fuel system?  How about fuel stabilizer?  How many oz. per gallon?  Not trying to be a smarta$$- I'm serious.  We knew that adding Av-Gas (very high octane gasoline) to the jet engines would help clean them out.  Jet fuel is high grade kerosene.  Seems like adding diesel to gas is just the opposite.

[T.P.]

THANKS SERK!!

Well lookie what STABIL is made of.......Who would have guessed, Solvent Naphtha and mothballs + a little red dye.

 Cas: 64742-94-5
RTECS #: WF3100000
Name: HEAVY AROMATIC NAPHTHA (SOLVENT NAPHTHA)          
% Wt: 90-100
Other REC Limits: NONE RECOMMENDED
OSHA PEL: NOT ESTABLISHED
ACGIH TLV: NOT ESTABLISHED
------------------------------
Name: ADDITIVE
% Wt: 0-5
Other REC Limits: NONE RECOMMENDED
OSHA PEL: NOT ESTABLISHED
ACGIH TLV: NOT ESTABLISHED
-----------------------------
Cas: 91-20-3
RTECS #: QJ0525000
Name: NAPHTHALENE (SARA 313) (CERCLA)
% Wt: 0-5
Other REC Limits: NONE RECOMMENDED
OSHA PEL: 10 PPM
ACGIH TLV: 10 PPM/15 STEL; 9596
EPA Rpt Qty: 100 LBS
DOT Rpt Qty: 100 LBS
=======================================================

vs SEAFOAM  Seafoam Ingredients
CAS # Wt.%
Pale Oil 64742-54-7 40.00 - 60.00% N/Av >15000 mg/kg >5000 mg/kg
Naphtha 64742-49-0 25.00 - 35.00% N/Av >5000 mg/kg N/Av
IPA 67-63-0 10.00 - 20.00% 17000ppm 4720mg/kg 12890mg/kg
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stabil........ Naphthalene, also known as naphthalin, bicyclo[4.4.0]deca-1,3,5,7,9-pentene or antimite is a crystalline, aromatic, white, solid hydrocarbon with formula C10H8 and the structure of two fused benzene rings. It is best known as the traditional, primary ingredient of mothballs


    I will not use seafoam for that purpose, only sta-bil  and  If want to buy Naphtha go buy some Coleman Stove Fuel.


 So isn't STABIL Coleman stove fuel and mothballs ?   

[czuch]

Jet Driver,
Yup, plane ol diesel. Its cleans parts like nobodys biz and I've used it with no detrimental effects.
The cats on my Explorer were in great shape after the daughter wrecked it and I cut em open to have a look. ( wanna be careful and UP wind for that.)
I am a firm believer in the diesel method. I dont know how or why it works and dont care. I've purchased fuel injector cleaner and it smelled like diesel. Maybe thats the 97% petroleum distillates they referred to. I work on alot of old cars that have been sitting for a long time. Dont wanna use alot,  time is on your side. I put 4 oz in the Valk, 1 quart in the Galaxie and about a pint in the mazda. I'm guessing  a quart will do 25 gallons.
Disclaimer, If it works thats great, send a check, if it dosent I told you not to.