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 Who would pass up a Newt / Barry debate? Off teleprompter, Newt would make Barry cry.
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Yep... Notice that about 1/2 way through.... he puts away his notes.... and is able to carry on....
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 07:42:08 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 07:48:28 PM » |
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I have found 2 uses for anvils...... one is hitting it with a hammer.... trying to make something out of it..... the other is....
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 07:51:33 PM » |
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I have found 2 uses for anvils...... one is hitting it with a hammer.... trying to make something out of it..... the other is.... ANVIL ShootingAnother top quality post from HotGlue! 
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 07:54:06 PM » |
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Another bonus from Newt would be there has been decades of "vetting" there wouldn't be any surprises. And it's obvious he can talk circles around Barry.
I do believe the only people that want Romney is the left wing media.
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I gotta admit, I was never a fan of Newt but..... he's definitely starting to win me over... I can just imagine him on a stage with Bumbling Barry and his "uuuuuh"s...
And, I agree with a lot of what Newt says... Not all of it... But enough of it...
Or lemme put it another way, if worse comes to worse, and Romney is the nominee, I will not be voting for Romney, I'll be voting against Obama.
If Newt (Or Cain, or Paul) is the nominee, I won't be voting against Obama, I'll be voting for Newt (Or Cain, or Paul)...
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My wife refers to me as 'slightly to the right of Attila the Hun', as i recall Newt made an ass out of himself years ago and should not be taken seriously. You guys need to find a middle of the road, common sense candidate and promote him ,or her,otherwise Obama is going to be reelected. I'm looking at properties in New Zealand as i assume there is no right wing that can pull his head out of the religious right's Ass and become a real American.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 08:11:11 PM » |
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Newt ROCKS! liberals suck!
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 08:34:03 PM » |
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I'm surprised at how may Liberals want to offer their opinion on conservative candidates. We don't agree with their logic on any candidate, why would their opinion matter to us about ANYTHING?
I still don't understand why we are having the liberal media grilling our candidates in debates. I want to ask them questions that are important to me, not the questions that are important to liberals.
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I'm starting to warm up to Newt......but just a little so far. I'm mostly in a wait and see mode at this point. So far, I like Ron Paul the most.
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Maybe it would do well for everyone to read the Constitution and pay particular attention to the Bill of Rights.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 02:57:02 AM » |
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Karl Rove, the ultimate Machiavelli / political strategist of the right. Pat Robertson (!!! 'Nuff said). Both of them suggested that that the current crop of candidates cut back on the 'crazy' or risk losing credibility with mainstream America.  There's food for thought. Here's a serious question on an issue that puzzles me: why is nobody even considering Jon Huntsman? Too mainstream? Not enough 'crazy'? Tainted by his stint as ambassador? I don't get it. His positions seem sane, well thought out, has the interest of all at heart, wants to close the gap currently dividing the country, has a grasp of foreign policy. I'm really curious. Deeply analytical political discourse like "Newt ROCKS! liberals suck!" is too complex to get answers from.
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My wife refers to me as 'slightly to the right of Attila the Hun', as i recall Newt made an ass out of himself years ago and should not be taken seriously. You guys need to find a middle of the road, common sense candidate and promote him ,or her,otherwise Obama is going to be reelected. Exactly. And as far as why Huntsman isn't taken more seriously, I think it's exactly BECAUSE he's sensible. Can't have that afterall.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2011, 06:40:37 AM » |
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Awe, isn't it cute how the liberals feel the need to help conservatives find a "good, sensible, candidate"?  They sure did a bang up job of choosing one for themselves three years ago.
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Awe, isn't it cute how the liberals feel the need to help conservatives find a "good, sensible, candidate"?  They sure did a bang up job of choosing one for themselves three years ago. Nice try but I'm not a liberal. It's just that in your world anyone who doesn't buy the party line 100% or have a standing offer to provide oral sex to Ted Nugent is a liberal. Isn't that cute? 
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2011, 06:59:00 AM » |
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Awe, isn't it cute how the liberals feel the need to help conservatives find a "good, sensible, candidate"?  They sure did a bang up job of choosing one for themselves three years ago. Nice try but I'm not a liberal. It's just that in your world anyone who doesn't buy the party line 100% or have a standing offer to provide oral sex to Ted Nugent is a liberal. Isn't that cute?  I reviewed my post, and I still find no mention of "Anvil". Are you feeling guilty? Or do you just feel like the center of every conversation? And also keep in mind that libs are the ones supporting same sex oral, not the conservatives. 
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Newt is the best, smartest, most experienced, true conservative candidate by far. He has some baggage, but none we can't live with.
I think Newt with Cain as VP might be an unbeatable team.
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Newt is the best, smartest, most experienced, true conservative candidate by far. He has some baggage, but none we can't live with. You REALLY need to do a little research. He's got more than you think including serial philanderer, and that might be the LEAST egregious of his closet skeletons.I think Newt with Cain as VP might be an unbeatable team. YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY. That team is a Dem wet-dream.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2011, 07:16:43 AM » |
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Newt is the best, smartest, most experienced, true conservative candidate by far.
Add "most consistent" to that list and you just described Ron Paul. And yet along with Huntsman (who might be the most sensible of all of them) he's largely ignored. YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 07:24:44 AM » |
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Karl Rove, the ultimate Machiavelli / political strategist of the right. Pat Robertson (!!! 'Nuff said). Both of them suggested that that the current crop of candidates cut back on the 'crazy' or risk losing credibility with mainstream America.  There's food for thought. Here's a serious question on an issue that puzzles me: why is nobody even considering Jon Huntsman? Too mainstream? Not enough 'crazy'? Tainted by his stint as ambassador? I don't get it. His positions seem sane, well thought out, has the interest of all at heart, wants to close the gap currently dividing the country, has a grasp of foreign policy. I'm really curious. Deeply analytical political discourse like "Newt ROCKS! liberals suck!" is too complex to get answers from. I like Huntsman's stand on the IRS and the Fair Tax.
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I will look up Huntsman before making an opinion
I followed Newt back in the days and also read his last book. I will read anyones book or a book about anyone.
What doesnt kill you can (if you paid attention) make you stronger
SOme learn from their mistakes how to repeat them exactly the same way
To me, Newt appears to have grown from shooting himself in the foot. Cant say that about everyone else in the race.
Jess I think at this point Newt is the most able to locate the countries on a map, discuss strategic fiscal and military options of the republicans. But I wont commit to a candidate till I know more
The current POTUS will not be getting my vote and I am inclined to vote all incumbants out at present and if Hillary runs will vote against her too
To me the issues I need addressed are The balance of money going to China The open border and security of the borders Enabling private enterprise to create jobs without destroying the water and air Rebuilding our nations roads and bridges and building a power grid using wind, water and solar power and development of a system of storing electric power (that one is harder than it sounds folks kind of like a manhattan project) Taking care of our veterans and giving them first dibs on the creation of the aforementioned jobs
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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2011, 08:40:25 AM » |
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I will look up Huntsman before making an opinion
I followed Newt back in the days and also read his last book. I will read anyones book or a book about anyone.
What doesnt kill you can (if you paid attention) make you stronger
SOme learn from their mistakes how to repeat them exactly the same way
To me, Newt appears to have grown from shooting himself in the foot. Cant say that about everyone else in the race.
Jess I think at this point Newt is the most able to locate the countries on a map, discuss strategic fiscal and military options of the republicans. But I wont commit to a candidate till I know more
The current POTUS will not be getting my vote and I am inclined to vote all incumbants out at present and if Hillary runs will vote against her too
To me the issues I need addressed are The balance of money going to China The open border and security of the borders Enabling private enterprise to create jobs without destroying the water and air Rebuilding our nations roads and bridges and building a power grid using wind, water and solar power and development of a system of storing electric power (that one is harder than it sounds folks kind of like a manhattan project) Taking care of our veterans and giving them first dibs on the creation of the aforementioned jobs
and of course , since all of you expect me to say this
A position of Secretary of looking for Secretaries which I hereby accept
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Newt is no newbie.
Being House Speaker, the 3rd most powerful position in our American Government.
Worked with the deplorable pragmatic Slick Willy, they both governed over the best economy we have seen in 100 years.
Newt without all the fan fare has hung in there and will most likely be the next president.
He definitely will make little Barry Sotoro cry like a mashed cat in any debate.
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A presidential race for a Republican is like driving a car down a road. To get nominated, you must drive the car in the far right lane. The candidate might be driving so far right as to be on the shoulder of the road. That gets the Republican nomination. After getting nominated, the candidate steers close to the center of the road in order to pick up more independents and Democrats.
That means the what you hear from a Republican after being nominated is a more moderate approach to the issues than before he (or she) was nominated.
This strategy worked for Nixon in 1968, and has been used often since then.
So very true. Not only that, but the actual 'final' candidate could be someone totally unexpected; in fact someone not even part of the current gaggle. That happened a number of times in the past.
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It appears to me that Romney is being rammed down our throats by the media. I have yet to meet anyone that supports him, but somehow he is at the top of the polls, and the media is pretty much giving him a pass for now.
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It appears to me that Romney is being rammed down our throats by the media. I have yet to meet anyone that supports him, You might want to get out of the house more. But what media is it you are referring to? The liberal media or the conservative media? Please clarify. Either way what you're saying makes no sense but I'm curious as to what alternate universe you're pulling your logic from.
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My bet is after everybody gets through with their "dog and pony shows," Newt Gingrich will get the Republican nod.
I don't know if it bothers me more to think Cain can't remember an incident where a worker was paid a years salary to shut-up, OR If Cain is such a push over as to agree to some sort of deal, if all he did was to say "you're the same height as my wife."
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My bet is after everybody gets through with their "dog and pony shows," Newt Gingrich will get the Republican nod.
I don't know if it bothers me more to think Cain can't remember an incident where a worker was paid a years salary to shut-up, OR If Cain is such a push over as to agree to some sort of deal, if all he did was to say "you're the same height as my wife."
Rick Perry is going to drop off the radar for the obvious reasons.
The complaint was to the NRA, not to Cain, the settlement was between the NRA and the woman. Short of Cain giving his side of the events, he would not have had any thing else to do with the settlement. I have been involved with these situations and I new that settlements had been paid, but never knew how much. HR and Legal handles it all.
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My bet is after everybody gets through with their "dog and pony shows," Newt Gingrich will get the Republican nod.
I don't know if it bothers me more to think Cain can't remember an incident where a worker was paid a years salary to shut-up, OR If Cain is such a push over as to agree to some sort of deal, if all he did was to say "you're the same height as my wife."
Rick Perry is going to drop off the radar for the obvious reasons.
The complaint was to the NRA, not to Cain, the settlement was between the NRA and the woman. Short of Cain giving his side of the events, he would not have had any thing else to do with the settlement. I have been involved with these situations and I new that settlements had been paid, but never knew how much. HR and Legal handles it all. I guess that's one more reason why I'll never be the pres of a big organization. I'd never aprove of a hush up pay off if I was innocent. Now if I groped her and a settlement was needed, that would be different. 
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Like most everyone else, I also have my opinion(s) re. the current list of Repub. candidates. My personal choice shall remain just that....personal. But some of what I've read in this post thus far is often always unnecessary. I'm referring to the usual insolent and confrontational approach used by more recent members. Why does every response have to be of that nature? It gets tiresome, is totally unnecessary when trying to make a point, and most of the time takes away from what is often an otherwise worthwhile statement of position. It strikes me as a rather juvenile approach that smacks of "hey, look at me, I'm about to....." as though it's supposed to lend more credence to what is about to be said. By prefacing comments with such drivel, I wonder if they realize that it actually takes away from the impact or validity of their comments that follow? Those often insulting remarks are what actually makes the impact and show true colors, not the pertinent comments which follow. Granted, at times we all have done so, but not with nearly every post we generate.
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How do you "close the gap" between the business strangling legislation/tax/borror/spend your way to prosperity currently employed by the Obummer regime to the free market?
You don't, you beat them, you do not negotiate with them. When a terrorist says they want to kill you simply because you exist, do you try to negotiate with them to kill you more humanely? Of course not!
Any one of the current crop of Republicans would be better than what we have now.
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I didn't know all that 'bagga' about Newt. I'd much prefer Newt in the Presidents cabinet than being the actual President. I think that's more likely his goal at this point anyway. Many conservatives don't really like or trust Newt. I count myself in that group too. I see no way for him to win a general election, even against Obummer.
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I hate to get in on the end of this but,:\ The last president that had the best background for the job was Bush Sr. VP, head of CIA and Abs: to china. What I am saying is we need to look at the people running and ask who has the knowledg of how our system and laws work. Shortleg[Dave]
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