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« on: January 22, 2012, 11:30:30 PM » |
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Ok last week i went to start me bike and well CRACK!!! I was hydrolocked and broke the starter gear. I removed my engine today, did the desmog since i was already there. I already ordered the dan-marc (they must be making a killin off of valk owner lol) i am going to do the oem petcock mod to change it to a maunal petcock instead of the vac. (want to be double sure no fuel goes anywhere) i want to add an inline fuel filter from like auto zone, can anyone tell me what filter i should get besides the golan filter?
This is my second time to break the starter gear in 2 years!!!!! i am making sure i have a redunant system this time.
Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me, there will not be a thrid time!!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 07:22:56 AM » |
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i ordered the dan shut off i was thinking about using 2 inline fuel filters one on each line that runs off the T to the carbs the napa is a filter that other riders are using www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=FIL3032_0297036676i also see there is 2 versions the one with the 5/16 line out and in are it. it has 20 microns thats good www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Fuel_Shutoff/fuel_shutoff.htmlnow this picture to me seems it would fit after the T to the carbs if not just return one or keep for later. I guess i was lucky i smelled gas in the garage and seen gas stains on my valve covers. so just a light tap on the starter till wamm!!!!!! it shut off so far after taking out the plugs it seems to start ok time will tell.
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 08:05:47 AM » |
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i am going to do the oem petcock mod to change it to a maunal petcock instead of the vac. (want to be double sure no fuel goes anywhere) i want to add an inline fuel filter from like auto zone, can anyone tell me what filter i should get besides the golan filter? This is my second time to break the starter gear in 2 years!!!!! i am making sure i have a redunant system this time. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me, there will not be a thrid time!!!
Modifying the fuel valve to remove the vacuum function will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent fuel from flowing when the valve is manually shut off. In fact, changing that will REMOVE a system that shuts off the fuel flow when you forget to manually shut off the valve. The only time you may want to do this modification is if your engine is being fuel-starved due to a tear in the vacuum diaphragm, and then only to get you back up and running until your rebuild kit can be ordered and installed.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 08:39:39 AM » |
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If he puts in a Dan-Marc fuel shut-off like he says than he will not have to worry about fuel filling the cylinders. Just Make sure that you put the Dan-Marc to a power source that is activated by your ignition switch.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 11:22:54 AM » |
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i am going to do the oem petcock mod to change it to a maunal petcock instead of the vac. (want to be double sure no fuel goes anywhere) i want to add an inline fuel filter from like auto zone, can anyone tell me what filter i should get besides the golan filter? This is my second time to break the starter gear in 2 years!!!!! i am making sure i have a redunant system this time. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me, there will not be a thrid time!!!
Modifying the fuel valve to remove the vacuum function will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent fuel from flowing when the valve is manually shut off. In fact, changing that will REMOVE a system that shuts off the fuel flow when you forget to manually shut off the valve. The only time you may want to do this modification is if your engine is being fuel-starved due to a tear in the vacuum diaphragm, and then only to get you back up and running until your rebuild kit can be ordered and installed. I have read a few post where other guys have some how moded the petcock to where is operates as a maunal instead of a vac system, so i figured this would be a common mod?
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 12:28:35 PM » |
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I really liked the look of this solution so I just went to order the part. The website quotes $39 for USPS shipping to Victoria,BC,Canada.  Looks like I may need to source this locally. I sent them an email asking if this was right. Too bad, I'd like to get this installed while I have my tank off. Thanks for the tip. Glenn
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 04:57:53 PM » |
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How long does that filter last? When do you replace it? I have not been able to locate the filter by itself on Dan Marc's web site. Note: I have had the "old" version in my Valk for quite a while but would certainly switch to the filtered one if I knew the answer to the above few questions. Thanks! 
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 06:58:25 PM » |
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The Dan-Marc solenoid valve is made by Advanced Fuel Components (afcvalves.com). I shot them an email this evening and I'll let you know what they say about their "inexpensive" filters for the Model 152. They do say that their standard filter is 40 microns and they can be had in 20 microns if desired.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 08:05:05 PM » |
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I have read a few post where other guys have some how moded the petcock to where is operates as a maunal instead of a vac system, so i figured this would be a common mod?
What happens is someone is riding down the highway and the bike starts to sputter just like it does when you need to switch to reserve, only he hasn't ridden that far yet. He switches to reserve and is able to go a little farther before the bike starts to slow down again. When he pulls over and idles on the side of the highway, the engine recovers and he is good to go for a couple more miles, then the problem repeats. This problem is caused by a small tear in the vacuum diaphragm. Think of the vacuum operated valve as a second shut-off downstream from the manual valve (although they are actually one assembly). The vacuum shut-off is normally held closed by a spring. When the engine is running, engine vacuum overcomes the force of the spring and pulls open the valve, allowing fuel to flow. If there is a small tear in the vacuum diaphragm, there is only enough vacuum to partly open the valve. This may not be a problem when the fuel tank is full, because the weight of the gas overhead means more fuel pressure, which helps to overcome the spring, and fuel can flow. Once the fuel is down to a lower level, there is no longer enough fuel pressure to help overcome the spring, and the valve starts to close. What the modification does is move the spring so it holds OPEN the vacuum valve so fuel is always allowed to flow.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 04:54:52 AM » |
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If you are going to do like Gryphon Riders suggest, I would just like to add that you should block off the petcock vacuum and the vacuum nipple on the carb. Then you don't have to worry about fuel getting into the #6 cylinder at some point if the diaphragm ever fails.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 05:26:03 AM » |
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The Dan-Marc solenoid valve is made by Advanced Fuel Components (afcvalves.com). I shot them an email this evening and I'll let you know what they say about their "inexpensive" filters for the Model 152. They do say that their standard filter is 40 microns and they can be had in 20 microns if desired.
I have sent an email to Dan McKay (at Dan-Marc) who has replied: It is a washable filter that does not need to be replaced.
Thanks!
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 05:57:55 PM » |
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Never heard back back from Dan-Marc in response to the $39 shipping to Canada for the AFC 152. Checked eBay and found it there for less + less shipping as well. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-AFC-Model-152-Solenoid-Shut-Off-Valve-fuel-filter-/330633337654?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cfb485b36#ht_598wt_1063I hope they ship quickly, as I have the bike torn down at the moment. It is going back together as a SuperValk with a stinger seat. (I have been dreading the much feared hydrolock monster) It wil be March before I'm on the road again. We are in the midst of rain season here (although last week we had a foot of snow( gone now)). :'( Cheers, Glenn
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 09:16:13 AM » |
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Just ordered mine thanks for the info. Free shipping but 6% sales tax still a better deal.
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