gas

[Donut]

Gas in Oklahoma City today
......$1.59......87 oct. e10

[3fan4life]

Gas in Oklahoma City today
......$1.59......87 oct. e10

SWEET !!!!!!!!!!

The cheapest around here is $1.90

[da prez]

Comming home it dropped to $1.999 in N/E Illinois.

                           da prez

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

$1.97 in Williamsburg, KY

[Patrick]

Geee, ours is all the way down to $2.65 !

[DIGGER]

Tomball, Tx this morning at Murphy's Express is $1.71

[MarkT]

Yesterday $1.73 for regular.  That was with the Kroger discount...

[cookiedough]

wow, that is some cheap gas - moving to Oklahoma City I guess?

I'm not complaining either,  now down to 2.25 per gallon surely saving 40 bucks if not more per week in gas on mainly 2 vehicles.

This is going to hurt smaller fuel efficient vehicle sales and scooter sales somewhat, and in return benefit the car dealers buying gas guzzling V8 trucks/SUVs.    When gas was pushing 4 bucks per gallon,  scooter sales and fuel efficient car sales were hot and truck/suv sales were not selling much at all. 

[dragon_slayer_129]

Was a bit shocked this morning when I went uptown to fuel the diesel beast......$2.99 for diesel and down to $1.85 for gas.  Not that I'm complaining about current diesel/gas prices since it wasn't that long ago diesel was well over $4.50 around here and gas was pushing $3.70.

Nothing stimulates economy more than saving some cash at the pump......to bad food prices keep going up even though other things are dropping.

[cookiedough]

Was a bit shocked this morning when I went uptown to fuel the diesel beast......$2.99 for diesel and down to $1.85 for gas.  Not that I'm complaining about current diesel/gas prices since it wasn't that long ago diesel was well over $4.50 around here and gas was pushing $3.70.

Nothing stimulates economy more than saving some c

ash at the pump......to bad food prices keep going up even though other things are dropping.

And am sure Obummer will take the credit for cheaper gas stimulating the GREAT (yah right) economy.  Seems like everything but gas keeps going up which it should, but to a much more modest degree than it has the past several years.

[Serk]

Gas is under $2 a gallon and the Dallas Cowboys are in the playoffs...

...did we get pulled back into the 1990's?!?!?!

[Willow]

I was a bit hesitant to open a thread titled gas.   

[Raverez]

OKay, so why is the price of gas going down? Does it make sense? I'm not complaining but what is the real reason? We still use as much as ever, so is the supply that much higher? I think I read somewhere that OPEC was not going to decrease output even though there is more producers in the mix. Are they trying to bring the price so low that it won't be profitable for hydrofracking to stay a viable way to extract the oil from the ground? And when that happens will they then jack up the price again?
Just wondering.

[John Schmidt]

Actually....consumption in the U.S. is way down. Partly due to less travel, and partly due to more economical cars. It's a matter of supply and demand. Low prices tend to stimulate the economy on a local level more than just about anything else going. But as I stated before; it's kinda like dating that cute gal in high school that never gave you the first look before. You know it won't last so enjoy it while you can.

[grizz]

Gas here in the great white north is now 93 cents per liter, it was over $1.35 per liter in the summer. It is nice to have cheaper gas for awhile.

Ontario, Canada

[Gavin_Sons]

Gas here in the great white north is now 93 cents per liter, it was over $1.35 per liter in the summer. It is nice to have cheaper gas for awhile.

Ontario, Canada

That is equal to $ 3.52 per gallon here. We are down to about half that right now.

[Romeo]

Have we figured out why yet? Could it be the result of a few more options in the marketplace?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Gas is under $2 a gallon and the Dallas Cowboys are in the playoffs...

...did we get pulled back into the 1990's?!?!?!

3 more Super Bowl rings would be nice

[Pappy!]

Have we figured out why yet? Could it be the result of a few more options in the marketplace?

American output has increased to the point, through fracking, that there is plenty on the market. The Arab Nations know that fracking costs us around $55-$60 a barrel to produce it whereas they can pump it out of the ground for around $10-$12/barrel. This was profitable to us at the $110/barrel numbers we have seen for a long time.
They have continued to produce oil even though usage has dropped in hopes that it will no longer be profitable to produce oil here by fracking. They are approaching the threshold of that now.

[BF]

Regular was at $2.23 this morning. 

OKay, so why is the price of gas going down? Does it make sense? I'm not complaining but what is the real reason? We still use as much as ever, so is the supply that much higher? I think I read somewhere that OPEC was not going to decrease output even though there is more producers in the mix. Are they trying to bring the price so low that it won't be profitable for hydrofracking to stay a viable way to extract the oil from the ground? And when that happens will they then jack up the price again?
Just wondering.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/21/real-reason-gas-prices-are-falling/

"It's breaking the back of OPEC. Saudi Arabia is deluging the world with oil right now, which is driving the world price relentlessly lower. The Arabs understand - as too few in Washington do - that shale energy boom is no short term fad. It could make energy cheaper for decades to come. As American drillers get better at perfecting the technologies of cracking through shale rock to get to the near infinite treasure chest supplies of energy locked inside, we will soon overtake Saudi Arabia as the dominant player in world energy markets.

You can't have a cartel if the world's largest producer - America - isn't a member. OPEC will never again be able to create the level of economic turmoil that the Arab members of OPECs engineered in the 1970s with their oil embargo. And by the way: lower oil prices place increased pressure on Iran’s mullahs to abandon their nuclear program and curb Putin’s capabilities to engage in East Europe aggression."

[art]

Like all good things I wonder how long this will last and what will happen when it goes back up. As to people buying big cars and trucks because gas prices are down I think it's stupid. This is agood time to buy a gas saving car.

[BF]

Like all good things I wonder how long this will last and what will happen when it goes back up. As to people buying big cars and trucks because gas prices are down I think it's stupid. This is agood time to buy a gas saving car.

I drive a big truck because I can.  This is still a free country and I can buy and drive what the hell ever I damn well please.  I'm a full sized person and would rather drive a full size vehicle thank you very much.  I don't fit in a "gas saving car".  

You are still free to drive a tiny spec car if that's what you desire, but don't tell me what you think I should drive.  

[dragon_slayer_129]

I love my F250 but feeding it at times can be a bit pricey.  The way I look at it.....you can't pull a heavy triple axle equipment trailer with a prius.  Besides if I ever was in an accident I think the diesel beast would overhaul a fuel mizer car and not break a sweat.  The fiance's focus looks like a matchbox car next to it

[Serk]

Besides if I ever was in an accident I think the diesel beast would overhaul a fuel mizer car and not break a sweat. 

Friend of mine used to believe that too, drove an F-250 Dually... He's on permanent disability now, and in constant pain from his injuries; the girl in the econobox he T-Boned walked away. Her car was totaled, his truck only had a scratch. She had no real injuries, but HE'S totaled...

A car will sacrifice itself to protect it's occupants. A  truck is rigid and the vehicle is more likely to survive an accident, but it's occupants will take the shock of the impact instead.

No thanks, I'd take ANY car over a truck from a safety in a collision scenario.

Drive 'em if you like, I fully support your right to drive what you want, but please don't think you're safer in a truck because of it's size.

/Soap Box Off

[Mr Whiskey]

Now's the time for a "fart smeller" with a little coin to invest should be lookin' at the Gasoline futures prices on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. A wise investment now & you wouldn't really complain when the prices go back up, (which we ALL know they will).
I'm jus' sayin'.............

[MP]

OKay, so why is the price of gas going down? Does it make sense? I'm not complaining but what is the real reason? We still use as much as ever, so is the supply that much higher? I think I read somewhere that OPEC was not going to decrease output even though there is more producers in the mix. Are they trying to bring the price so low that it won't be profitable for hydrofracking to stay a viable way to extract the oil from the ground? And when that happens will they then jack up the price again?
Just wondering.

The development of fracking is the main reason why. The US has gone to the number one producer of crude in the world.  ND, in a handful of years, has gone from 100,000 or so barrels a day, to well over 1 million barrels a day.  Other states have increased as well.

It really PO's me when the Presbo, who has shut down oil leasing of Federal lands all over, stands up there and takes credit for the increase!  If he had had any power to stop the fracking,  he would have.  Think "Keystone".

MP

[hubcapsc]

Besides if I ever was in an accident I think the diesel beast would overhaul a fuel mizer car and not break a sweat.

Friend of mine used to believe that too, drove an F-250 Dually... He's on permanent disability now, and in constant pain from his injuries; the girl in the econobox he T-Boned walked away. Her car was totaled, his truck only had a scratch. She had no real injuries, but HE'S totaled...

A car will sacrifice itself to protect it's occupants. A  truck is rigid and the vehicle is more likely to survive an accident, but it's occupants will take the shock of the impact instead.

No thanks, I'd take ANY car over a truck from a safety in a collision scenario.

Drive 'em if you like, I fully support your right to drive what you want, but please don't think you're safer in a truck because of it's size.

/Soap Box Off

It is hard to compare apples to oranges... here's a comparison of trucks to a volt  ...

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/v/class-summary/large-pickups

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/chevrolet/volt/2015

-Mike

[Gavin_Sons]

I drive a truck, have for the past 200,000 miles. My 05 tundra 4 door is a gteat vehicle.  Not great on gas but a trusting vehicle.  We have been discussing getting me something new. I really like the f-250 and the new dodge 1500 with the diesel. If Toyota comes out with a half ton diesel like dodge and nissan has id buy one today.

[BobB]

I was a bit hesitant to open a thread titled gas.   

I thought the same thing.  Pump gas is at $2.07 here, the other gas is free...

[Jess Tolbirt]

i just bought a new f-150 xlt,, everything on that truck is controlled by computers,,there is no power steering pump anymore hooked to the engine, its built into the rack and pinon and yep you guessed it, controlled by a computer, i cant wait till that breaks,,the power brakes are no longer controlled by vacuum,, you can shut the engine off going down the road and still have power brakes and power steering,,if a tail light burnes out you have 3 starts of the engine to get it fixed or else call a tow truck,,this stuff goes on and on,,,

[Cotton Mouth]

87 octane  $2.54 Las Vegas, NV this morning.

[BF]

i just bought a new f-150 xlt,, everything on that truck is controlled by computers,,there is no power steering pump anymore hooked to the engine, its built into the rack and pinon and yep you guessed it, controlled by a computer, i cant wait till that breaks,,the power brakes are no longer controlled by vacuum,, you can shut the engine off going down the road and still have power brakes and power steering,,if a tail light burnes out you have 3 starts of the engine to get it fixed or else call a tow truck,,this stuff goes on and on,,,

Sounds like you're sorry you bought it.  You say "new".  What year?  2014?  2015?

[Raverez]

I was a bit hesitant to open a thread titled gas.   

I thought the same thing.  Pump gas is at $2.07 here, the other gas is free...

Not really, you got to buy the beans to produce the gas! HAHAHA

[PAVALKER]

Geee, ours is all the way down to $2.65 !

I am curious what state you are in.... A heavily taxed one like PA, and I thought we were tops.

[cookiedough]

Besides if I ever was in an accident I think the diesel beast would overhaul a fuel mizer car and not break a sweat. 

Friend of mine used to believe that too, drove an F-250 Dually... He's on permanent disability now, and in constant pain from his injuries; the girl in the econobox he T-Boned walked away. Her car was totaled, his truck only had a scratch. She had no real injuries, but HE'S totaled...

A car will sacrifice itself to protect it's occupants. A  truck is rigid and the vehicle is more likely to survive an accident, but it's occupants will take the shock of the impact instead.

No thanks, I'd take ANY car over a truck from a safety in a collision scenario.

Drive 'em if you like, I fully support your right to drive what you want, but please don't think you're safer in a truck because of it's size.

/Soap Box Off

Everyone has an opinion on this, but I'll take the mass of a full sized SUV/pickup of any kind over a smaller 4 cylinder car anyday in any type of collision in 99.9% of the accidents.

Don't let size fool you,  these full sized pickups/suv's made nowadays are also made to crumple in an accident just like the smaller cars do.  Now,  my dad's (now titled in my name since he died) 1986 caprice classic brougham is NOT meant to crumple by any means and in an accident of any severity especially similar to a head on collision, would not be pretty for the caprice's occupants.

The vast amounts of plastic and way too think of sheet metal in today's modern vehicles of all kinds is insanely high.  Cheap parts made to fail and crumple and NOT last unlike decades ago.  

I couldn't believe it though when I saw it with my own eyes, but pickups made today are heavier than when made 20 years ago apples to apples comparison.  

[Raverez]

i just bought a new f-150 xlt,, everything on that truck is controlled by computers,,there is no power steering pump anymore hooked to the engine, its built into the rack and pinon and yep you guessed it, controlled by a computer, i cant wait till that breaks,,the power brakes are no longer controlled by vacuum,, you can shut the engine off going down the road and still have power brakes and power steering,,if a tail light burnes out you have 3 starts of the engine to get it fixed or else call a tow truck,,this stuff goes on and on,,,

Yep, safer living through modern technology.

[Raverez]

I couldn't believe it though when I saw it with my own eyes, but pickups made today are heavier than when made 20 years ago apples to apples comparison.  

I think they are at least 40% percent larger also.

My 2001 Tundra is about the same size as a 2014 Tacoma.

[cookiedough]

i just bought a new f-150 xlt,, everything on that truck is controlled by computers,,there is no power steering pump anymore hooked to the engine, its built into the rack and pinon and yep you guessed it, controlled by a computer, i cant wait till that breaks,,the power brakes are no longer controlled by vacuum,, you can shut the engine off going down the road and still have power brakes and power steering,,if a tail light burnes out you have 3 starts of the engine to get it fixed or else call a tow truck,,this stuff goes on and on,,,

Yep, safer living through modern technology.

Just wait when in a few years from now we have cars on the road driving themselves and the computers controlling the car fails.  See how that pans out, not going to be pretty.

Although my newer tundra is a good pickup to own as most are nowadays, it has one major flaw I have experienced first hand concerning the AIP (air induction pump) issue causing the truck to go into limp mode and very dangerous to drive in any type of traffic situation.  Basically, the computers shut down usually in very cold winter conditions having something to do with the catalytic converter (no idea really just is dumb) and force the truck to NOT be able to go above say 45 mph as well as revving the rpms up super high like 4,000 rpms doing only 25-45 mph tops.  It also that one night it happened driving home from work besides revving the rpms way up unexpectedly for no need,  slowed down my vehicle even if flooring the gas pedal and from say 45 mph top speed allowed to only 35 mph no matter how hard you mashed the gas pedal.  It does happen more than toyota likes to admit and doesn't have a solution for the problem in many years of same design now since 2007.  All they did was extend the warranty to 150,000 miles on this part and replace it with same crappy designed one in hopes it won't happen again.  How is that for computers and electronics being flawed?  I don't need nor want all this garbage on vehicles made nowadays. 

Electronic power steering is fairly common as well on most 2-5 year old vehicles with auto mfgs. stating it is better and more reliable and saves on weight of vehicle.  I say B.S. on that as well.  I think, not really sure,  the first year it came out was I think on our former 2009 toyota corolla.  I hated the driving experience hwy. cruising with this electronic power steering feeling very vague and unresponsive on the road.  It never seemed to have an on-center feel and liked to wander all over my side of the road making it more difficult than it should to stay straight while hwy. cruising.  It was all due to the crappy electronic power steering it had.

[hubcapsc]

Just wait when in a few years from now we have cars on the road driving themselves and the computers controlling the car fails.  See how that pans out, not going to be pretty.

Once the ball joints on my truck failed, then the steering wheel no longer controlled
the front wheels, and the front wheels went in different directions relative to
each other.

Then there was the time the vacuum operated cruise control on my truck failed... I held it
down to about 80 with the brakes until I came to an exit ramp and turned the key off
as I was going up the ramp.

Stuff failing is nothing new...

-Mike

[Rams]

Besides if I ever was in an accident I think the diesel beast would overhaul a fuel mizer car and not break a sweat. 

Friend of mine used to believe that too, drove an F-250 Dually...

I seriously doubt your friend drove a F 250 Dually.