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« on: June 05, 2015, 09:46:26 PM » |
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Anybody have a link to anything?
Found nothing on our site, and my "Old Tech Archive" link has been dead for months.
I did find a ""Swing-arm Conversion" old post from 2008 on google, but it is all text, no pic, and incomplete.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 10:19:38 PM » |
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It has been done but I don't know what was involved. There has been some pics posted of a Valk sport bike with one.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 06:08:04 AM » |
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Head over to the Ohio board and see if Skull (Alan) is still participating. He did it to his Standard about 10 or so years ago.
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RDKLL
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2015, 04:17:15 PM » |
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I think Jeff K did it as well but I don't remember the outcome
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2015, 04:44:18 PM » |
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it was reported that it is not a good mod to do, frame cannot handle the single point stress of one shock. JeffK's post http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,50757.0.html"That GL1800 swingarm is massive. I don't know that there is any weight savings there. I put one on a valk once. It was very ugly, and I gave up on it due to the fact that I didn't like that massive swingarm and the final drive is none to pretty either. The suspension alone requires a huge amount of frame strengthening to handle the mono shock." There have been a few one-off aluminum swing arms made, that is what I would want. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2015, 09:28:51 PM » |
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Thanks guys. I found a pic - I think from Jeff? But most of the reference posts on this topic have busted pic links. Rant time... On a few other sites I've mentioned it, I'm told that the storage is the problem for hosting pics. Maybe, but I just paid $125 for a 4TB WD drive. If you were to limit each pic to 500k (I keep mine between 100 and 300 usually), it would hold 8 MILLION photos...more or less. Prolly a bit less. I don't know for sure, but I would bet a Guinness tall that we ain't got 8 MILLION pics... Anyhow... here is the pic I found; now also hosted on my Photobucket account. But if die in a flaming motorcycle accident... all my pics in posts are coming with me...   I actually held one in my hand at a shop the other day; but they were doing a trike conversion and the owner wanted the parts. Not to discount Jeff, but it sure felt lighter than the steel flavor. How do I get to the Ohio board? Not listed as a chapter from what I can see. |
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« Last Edit: June 08, 2015, 09:30:49 PM by pago cruiser »
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 09:34:35 PM » |
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Thanks rhino. Appreciate the links. While the "naked" side pics are great, seems no one has pics from the other side. Would have loved to see the extent of frame mods necessary for the monoshock; it's always easier having a guide...  That said, strengthening the frame does not sound like a deal breaker. Heck, I was doing that on my old DT250, then my Kawi Z1. It helps that I have a salvage frame sitting here as well to butcher... er, practice on. While my welding skills are poor, my fabbing, grinding, and tacking skills are reasonably proficient. It's just takes me awhile, then I take what I have fabbed and tacked to a good guy who does registered welding for a living... I'm a little more concerned with the electrics: I don't see a battery or any of the half dozen relays and stiff under the seat and above the swingarm. I'm going to try and pick up a swingarm this weekend, and with luck also a shock and drive. If it looks good, then the pesky little stuff like a caliper, and disk, and caliper bracket, etc. and start playing around. I'll check in once I make some progress. If anyone else has any info, it'd be appreciated. Just because, Ive hosted the Florida bike pics as well.   |
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 07:39:17 PM » |
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[quote author=pago cruiser link=topic=78720.msg771265#msg771265 date=1433824131 Rant time... On a few other sites I've mentioned it, I'm told that the storage is the problem for hosting pics. Maybe, but I just paid $125 for a 4TB WD drive. If you were to limit each pic to 500k (I keep mine between 100 and 300 usually), it would hold 8 MILLION photos...more or less. Prolly a bit less. I don't know for sure, but I would bet a Guinness tall that we ain't got 8 MILLION pics... Anyhow... here is the pic I found; now also hosted on my Photobucket account. But if die in a flaming motorcycle accident... all my pics in posts are coming with me... [/quote] There is nothing more frustrating than missing PIC links when looking at some post. For whatever reason that they are now missing. To solve this problem in my own posts, I made a "forum" post folder to place pics into that I post online. So I don't need to remember which pics are for posts. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2015, 09:32:04 PM » |
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Thanks Gordon. Does the "forum post" folder actually host all the pics you use on the site? If so, I may need to switch my operations... I use photobucket, and have 75 or so folders that just host pics for online posts. So if/when they do something to piss me off, or go out of business, or raise their fees too much, or I get a hair up my a$$ and decide to re-organize my Photobucket directories, ALL of the threads they are in will be kaput. This defacto "system" of having basically uncontrolled 3rd party hosts for pics is nothing but a recipe to GUARANTEE that EVERY PICTURE used in EVERY POST, EVERYWHERE, will eventually be gone. The engineer in me just cringes when I think of the collective knowledge that we have, but through apparently ubiquitous stupidity, will be gone. It like, like... storing a lifetime of written work on fax paper, then putting it in a file cabinet. A couple years go by, you open the filing cabinet, and all the pages are blank... And for whatever reason, not many seem to GAS...  Sigh. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2015, 07:43:17 AM » |
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That "Florida" bike was on eBay a year or so ago. Don't know what it went for.
Seem to remember reading the description for that bike and the guy had said that there were some issues still to be resolved with the bike. Don't remember what those were but I think it was still some unresolved issues with the swingarm.
As for missing pics from old links....it's usually because the person that originally posted the pics in their post have deleted the pics from the picture hosting site...such as Photobucket and they're no longer able to view once gone from the hosting site.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2015, 08:15:19 PM » |
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I also use photo bucket, but must not have as many pics posted as you do, just personal pics I shared with family, but haven't deleted yet.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2015, 11:43:17 AM » |
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Pago,
BF is correct it was on eBay but it never sold back in 2012.
I talked to the shop that listed the bike and shared a few emails with them.
Pago I will PM you.
John
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2015, 10:21:52 PM » |
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Stopped by my local Indy Wing store, and was able to score some hardware. $200 for a swingarm, pumpkin, rotor, driveshaft, swingarm bolts/bearings, wheel, caliper, shock, articulating shock stuff, and a fair tire...  The shop does a lot of trike conversions, plus I think they take pity on my moto project affliction...  Assembled and measured today, and it looks like the 1800 swingarm is 23.75 inches from pivot to axle. I thought ...dang, that's long. Then measured the Valk: 23.25".  Been trying to get the Valk hack running, so won't have much free time for awhile; but this certainly looks viable. The swingarm fits in the frame, the length is close enough, and the rear tire is still a 16, so won't have to worry about ride height...much. Still need to find one of those hydraulic gizmos for the rear shock off ebay. I think the frame strengthening is going to be the most interesting. Even Honda did not get it right the first time...  |
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2019, 09:33:44 AM » |
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Old thread, but a topic dear to my heart. Did this go anywhere? Any more details on fitting a GL1800 SSSA into a Valk frame?
I cannot believe there would be any problem with "extra loading due to the SSSA". The only issue is to make sure the upper suspension mount is sufficiently braced. Hardly rocket science and relatively easy to deal with. Alignment issues however could be more of a problem.
Interesting to read that the S/A does fit into the frame, but how does that leave the drive shaft and wheel alignment?
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2019, 12:14:31 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2019, 07:07:59 AM » |
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Yes, I had seen that, but a whole additional can of worms trying to squeeze the 1800 engine in there as well. I was just interested in the possibilities of fitting the 1800 SSSA into a Valk. At first it looks very 'do-able', but then there's alignment issues. However, is that due to the different engine. I know there have been conversions with just the 1880 S/A in a Valk, but not been able to find any details, like wheel alignment. |
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