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Dave Weaver
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« on: June 06, 2015, 12:21:32 PM »

I have spent the past three evenings and most of today working on my girl.  Desmog, new vac line from #6 to petcock, new intake o-rings, new exhaust o-rings, air filter, etc.  I buttoned her all back up and fired her up and she poured oil all over my garage  floor.  It is coming from somewhere on top of engine and running down left side and down front of timing cover.  Am walking away for a while as I am not looking forward to pulling tank and air box again so soon.  Any suggestions as to where I erred would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 12:43:10 PM »

Attic Rat, theatticrat@cox.net.   I think he was a valk in another life. He knows just about everything about them. Did my performance job and communicates well
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 12:49:51 PM »

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98valk
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 12:50:16 PM »

I have spent the past three evenings and most of today working on my girl.  Desmog, new vac line from #6 to petcock, new intake o-rings, new exhaust o-rings, air filter, etc.  I buttoned her all back up and fired her up and she poured oil all over my garage  floor.  It is coming from somewhere on top of engine and running down left side and down front of timing cover.  Am walking away for a while as I am not looking forward to pulling tank and air box again so soon.  Any suggestions as to where I erred would be appreciated.

u need to re-install the bolts on top of engine which were used to hold the pair valve brackets. its an open path to the crank case.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 01:46:05 PM »

I have spent the past three evenings and most of today working on my girl.  Desmog, new vac line from #6 to petcock, new intake o-rings, new exhaust o-rings, air filter, etc.  I buttoned her all back up and fired her up and she poured oil all over my garage  floor.  It is coming from somewhere on top of engine and running down left side and down front of timing cover.  Am walking away for a while as I am not looking forward to pulling tank and air box again so soon.  Any suggestions as to where I erred would be appreciated.

u need to re-install the bolts on top of engine which were used to hold the pair valve brackets. its an open path to the crank case.
Yes, CA hit the nail on the head. I forget which one it is so replace all of them and you'll be fine. Might want to use a dab of sealer on the threads as well.  cooldude
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2015, 04:26:27 PM »

I 've never had that happen and have never put them bolts back in...   Guess I was lucky.....
Guess I'll start putting them back in cause I sure don't want to clean up that mess....
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 04:32:51 PM »

...and change that oil! Wink
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2015, 06:23:08 PM »

It's most lovely when what you think could be a major disaster turns out to be a simple fix.

We all make mistakes at times, we just have to learn by them.

Replace the bolts, change oil + filter, then get out and ride it.....

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2015, 03:40:00 PM »

I was so surprised someone knew so quickly.

Can you say de ja vue? Maybe it's happened before to someone?
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 03:08:10 AM »

Yes replace the bolts.  I always cut them off about half their length and screw them back in.  You may be able to take the intakes off of one side and get to them or take two of them off and let the third, either front or back hold the carbs up to allow you access.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 06:16:29 AM »

Yes replace the bolts.  I always cut them off about half their length and screw them back in.  You may be able to take the intakes off of one side and get to them or take two of them off and let the third, either front or back hold the carbs up to allow you access.

I agree!  cooldude The clean up will be a bigger job. I think this is a rare happening.?  Shocked
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2015, 06:37:41 AM »

My friend didn't notice that the old oil filter gaket had stuck to the engine when he changed his filter. Same ocean of oil! The problem is that it was in MY driveway. I never told my wife how I used her spatulas.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2015, 07:49:20 AM »

My friend didn't notice that the old oil filter gaket had stuck to the engine when he changed his filter. Same ocean of oil! The problem is that it was in MY driveway. I never told my wife how I used her spatulas.







That was my first thought also.

I didn't say anything because I've not had a problem not installing the pair valve bolts.

The case shouldn't be drilled completely through the case, but, maybe it happens every once in awhile. In all these years this is the first I've heard of it. The only hole I'm aware of that is sometimes through into a water jacket is the one timing cover bolt. Maybe Mother Honda has had an issue with some of the tape machines.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2015, 09:11:46 PM »




I thought maybe a Harley parked there . . .  2funny
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2015, 05:43:33 AM »

LMAO   2funny  2funny  2funny
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2015, 07:23:33 AM »

My friend didn't notice that the old oil filter gaket had stuck to the engine when he changed his filter. Same ocean of oil! The problem is that it was in MY driveway. I never told my wife how I used her spatulas.

I tend to remember it was the center bolt which actually held the pair valve bracket to the block. on mine I could see the crank with the one bolt removed, air box was out at the time. one of the early de-smoggers wrote about the bolt opening to the crank. It was verified when I did mine.
maybe u got lucky and yours was being drilled at the end of a friday shift before a 3 day holiday wknd and they never finished?  Grin  actually a good thing!   cooldude







That was my first thought also.

I didn't say anything because I've not had a problem not installing the pair valve bolts.

The case shouldn't be drilled completely through the case, but, maybe it happens every once in awhile. In all these years this is the first I've heard of it. The only hole I'm aware of that is sometimes through into a water jacket is the one timing cover bolt. Maybe Mother Honda has had an issue with some of the tape machines.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2015, 03:55:15 AM »

I just removed my pair valves and did reinstall the bolts. I did my own variation of a stealth de-smog. I don't recall reading in any posts or instructions that those bolts needed to be put back, not saying no one hasn't mentioned it, I just don't remember seeing that step. I only did it because I can be just OCD enough that I didn't want to leave the holes open.
The bolt holes did not appear to go all the way through. Once removed I blew the holes out and reinstalled the bolts with a dab of anti-seize since all the bolts had some slight rust and oxidation from being in holes that seemed to terminate and hold moisture. The bolts all seemed to bottom out at the same depth which was just short of the length without the pair valve there to act as a spacer to use the extra bolt length.
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Patrick
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2015, 04:49:26 AM »

Well, maybe we'll never know.
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