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« on: October 13, 2016, 05:57:16 PM » |
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that has had a oil filter punctured while driving down the road and hit an object.....until now!!!!
Coming back from a coffee run along the Sacramento River on a levee road. A couple of 2-3 inch chunks of asphalt laying on the road, we all miss except for the guy riding the 2014 Valkyrie....ker-bow! hits the oil filter, oil starts misting everywhere, the rider behind him caught a windshield full but not enough to lose control. The blown filter oiled up the rear tire making making slowing down a bit dicey, finding a place to pull over on this road is sketchy as there is generally no shoulder and in typical California driver stye, everyone is in a hurry. As luck would have it, he found about a four foot wide section and coasted in with a dead engine.......lucky! One side of the road is about 20 feet down and full of grapevines, the other is about 20 feet down, across the rip-rap (boulders lining the levee side) and into the river........lucky!!!!!!
By the time we missed the two riders and found a spot to turn around and go back, the Valk rider had
called a tow truck and it was just a waiting game then........
Doubt he did any damage to the engine, he is pretty astute about what to do about an engine with no oil....
Its all good when everyone gets home in one piece.....
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2016, 07:03:12 PM » |
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Happy everyone is OK. Cars will shut the fuel pump off with loss of oil pressure, at least I know some do, wonder if the new Valks do the same?
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2016, 07:20:45 PM » |
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A couple of 2-3 inch chunks of asphalt laying on the road,
Thus my previous criticism of using a beer can to decorate your filter.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2016, 07:39:25 PM » |
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I wonder if one of those chrome oil filter covers would have made a difference with a chunk of asphalt....maybe.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 08:54:12 PM » |
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I wonder if one of those chrome oil filter covers would have made a difference with a chunk of asphalt....maybe.
It's not the chrome, it's the steel and aluminum (I have one of each). I could easily stand on either, and think both would stand up to a chunk of asphalt. They might get dinged up, but I doubt any damage to the filter underneath. OK, they probably wouldn't stand up to a pistol or rifle shot. Steel  Aluminum  Paper thin aluminum  |
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« Last Edit: October 13, 2016, 08:56:32 PM by Jess from VA »
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gordonv
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 09:06:57 PM » |
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About 3 years ago, a fellow GWRRA member went down to Vegas to ride home another members new to him GL1800.
On the ride in NV, I forgot what he hit, but it took a chunk out of the engine block right at the oil filter base, so oil leaked out, and couldn't be fixed.
He got a car rental and a trailer, and ended up trailering it home. I believe insurance covered the damage.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 10:02:14 PM » |
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This is why there is a Goldwing skid plate on my 14 Valkyrie. There is a plastic coolant overflow bottle under there too. I don't even want to think about that thing getting punctured.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2016, 03:25:31 AM » |
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I never understood the placement of the valks oil filter, right out front the way it is.
But I'm not a motor engineer either.
All mine have the HD steel shock cover protecting them.
Road hazards are road hazards and you can only do, what you can do.
Gotta trust fate will be good to you.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2016, 06:50:01 PM » |
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It is a bit ironic, he does have the GW skidpad.....at home, in the garage....on the work bench!!!
Hey.....what is this HD steel shock thing you speak of?
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2016, 07:01:51 PM » |
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Back in the '90s, a bar in Daytona held a "rice burn" event. They got an old GL 4 banger. Drained the oil and water. Hauled it up in a big tree limb and started it with the throttle jammed wide open. My bestie was there on his shovelhead. He said the HD guys got bored waiting for it to seize up. It took 45 minutes before it quit running. He called me to tell me he was so proud of Hondas, he just had to call and let me know.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2016, 07:32:45 PM » |
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It is a bit ironic, he does have the GW skidpad.....at home, in the garage....on the work bench!!!
Hey.....what is this HD steel shock thing you speak of?
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/7000095These puppies here. They fit right over a oem sized oil filter. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2016, 05:02:39 AM » |
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Back in the '90s, a bar in Daytona held a "rice burn" event. They got an old GL 4 banger. Drained the oil and water. Hauled it up in a big tree limb and started it with the throttle jammed wide open. My bestie was there on his shovelhead. He said the HD guys got bored waiting for it to seize up. It took 45 minutes before it quit running. He called me to tell me he was so proud of Hondas, he just had to call and let me know.
I hate hearing about morons blowing up engines like that. it might have been a first yr GL worth more than most of those morons make. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 09:22:42 AM » |
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I hate hearing about morons blowing up engines like that. it might have been a first yr GL worth more than most of those morons make.
It's a Honda. Refill the crankcase and it probably started right up.  I remember the early 1970s when most bikes were two strokes with roller bearings: If he dealer sent you out on your new bike without filling the oil tank it took over 50 miles before the motor seized up. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2016, 09:39:53 AM » |
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It's not uncommon on the 1800 engines, at least from what I've read on the GL1800 forums.
Most install belly pans for protection.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2016, 02:43:32 PM » |
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I hate hearing about morons blowing up engines like that. it might have been a first yr GL worth more than most of those morons make.
It's a Honda. Refill the crankcase and it probably started right up. I like that your probably right.  |
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Rio Wil
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2016, 06:46:57 PM » |
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Thinking about it, the fact the new Valk filter is offset to the left side might make it more vulnerable to a object flung by the front tire. Most objects you hit seem to get squirted out to the side vs being flung straight back where the old Valk filter is located.....and is not as likely to be hit....  |
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2016, 04:49:23 AM » |
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Thinking about it, the fact the new Valk filter is offset to the left side might make it more vulnerable to a object flung by the front tire. Most objects you hit seem to get squirted out to the side vs being flung straight back where the old Valk filter is located.....and is not as likely to be hit.... and there is the water pump and hoses also. somebody use to make a chrome shield to cover that area. |
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Tfrank59
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2016, 08:07:11 AM » |
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I think this is a really rare occurrence, having road debris hit and puncture a Valk or GW oil filter. I like having the filter so accessible and I've added a mud flap to my front fender, which I think would deflect away most everything like as was described in this event. The flap also keeps my engine much cleaner than before I attached it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2016, 11:50:01 AM » |
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I think this is a really rare occurrence, having road debris hit and puncture a Valk or GW oil filter. I like having the filter so accessible and I've added a mud flap to my front fender, which I think would deflect away most everything like as was described in this event. The flap also keeps my engine much cleaner than before I attached it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2016, 05:08:37 AM » |
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I like the rounded tip of the Harley shock cover in that it would tend to deflect a flying object in addition to protect against puncture.
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2016, 08:14:20 AM » |
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I like the rounded tip of the Harley shock cover in that it would tend to deflect a flying object in addition to protect against puncture.
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2016, 12:17:41 PM » |
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The GL1800 engine block, with the broken piece JB welded back in, as an on-the-road repair. Which didn't work, oil still leaked out. Before  After  |
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2016, 01:57:08 PM » |
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After reading this I decided from now on I will carry a spare oil filter in the saddlebag.
can always limp home with no water pump, but not with zero oil.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2016, 03:36:42 PM » |
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I bought a 93 really cheap almost two years ago that had road debris puncture the transmission cover next to the oil filter. It had some kind of epoxy gooped over the hole to slow the oil leak and looked like this:  GordonV sold me another cover that he harvested the gear indication switch from. Here's what the hole looked like after I pulled the cover:  I never got to speak with the previous owner to get the story. |
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2016, 10:30:28 AM » |
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The GL1800 engine block, with the broken piece JB welded back in, as an on-the-road repair. Which didn't work, oil still leaked out. I'll bet that would have worked a little better if that surface had been smoothed out, maybe with a file?? I might have RTV-ed the filter seal to get me home. |
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2016, 06:37:25 AM » |
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Back in the '90s, a bar in Daytona held a "rice burn" event. They got an old GL 4 banger. Drained the oil and water. Hauled it up in a big tree limb and started it with the throttle jammed wide open. My bestie was there on his shovelhead. He said the HD guys got bored waiting for it to seize up. It took 45 minutes before it quit running. He called me to tell me he was so proud of Hondas, he just had to call and let me know.
I hate hearing about morons blowing up engines like that. it might have been a first yr GL worth more than most of those morons make. The "American Angst" website covers the mental gymnastics of that type quite well. |
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