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pago cruiser
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« on: November 11, 2017, 10:54:18 AM »

Picked up a 2014 Valk wiring harness the other day for use on my Legacy /Super Valk project - have a thread over on the 1500 side of the house.  Having fun trying to match up the 43 individual connectors with things they connect to.  Have the 2014 Valk manual, but some things are ... not easily discernable.

Such as, what is this for?:


It shows up in the wiring harness, but with no reference.


Strictly by the pin count, the opnly thing it matches up to is the ABS Modulator connection.  Per the wiring schematic, it has 18 pins.  But the pic of the Modulator on Cheap Cycle Parts does nopt show the electrical connection?

If it IS a connector for the ABS module, is there supposed to be some kind of cover for the in-used/exposed connectors?  Seems odd that Honda would leave these things exposed, when every other connector is designed and sealed so well to keep out dust and moisture...  I'm thinking maybe something is maybe missing?

TIA


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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 12:47:46 PM »

it would help to have the wire colors, then it can be traced on the wiring diagram.  But my guess it the turn signal.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 02:47:17 PM »

Good idea - I tried that first.
But the connector is a weird right angle thing, and unless I dismember the fitting, or cut the cover, its impossible to tell.  Cannot just slide the cover back, like on almost every other connection.

That said, there is a small hole in the end of the fitting - can just barely make out Green and Br/Wh color wires in the end positions - but that does not match anything in the Valk manual - including the ABS modulator.

So strictly based on the number of pins, I assume it has to be the ABS Modulator.  But I have learned well...  that assumptions now can easily get you into trouble later.  Would sure like to confirm this

Hell, I even tried counting how many pins have metal connectors inside.  There are (2) large wires (maybe 16G), the green and Br/Wh.  The remaining 10 are all smaller connectors, so I assume (there's that word again) smaller wires.  So - 12 wires from what I can see; and the ABS Modulator in the schematic has 13.


And then... Following the wire labelled BAT (battery) in the schematic for the ABS, it goes to the 30A ABS fuse in the fuse box.  The schematic indicates a Violet/Wh - which I can visually confirm on the back of the fuse box...  But still no Br/Wh. 


The good thing is that if someone with an ABS Valk can say, "Yep, I have a connection that looks like that, and it is plugged into the ABS Modulator", I'm good to go.  I am not using ABS, so I will just tape it up and move on... 

Still rather puzzling as to why neither the colors nor the wire count match... ???

 



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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 04:42:41 PM »


That's an "unusual" one (a "hybrid" type connector).

Did you get the handlebar switches with your harness?  Are there other connectors "inline" with that one (further into the harness)? I'm wondering if that is the connector from inside the left handlebar switch housing.  But I really don't know -> just a guess after a really quick look at the wiring diagram.

Good luck!

Bill
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 05:24:08 PM »


right side handlebar switch:





left side:





It probably isn't helpful, but there's this:



And then, I watched this and made notes before I took mine all apart, so it
might help too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhwo3EiayY0

-Mike
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 08:49:53 PM »

ARGH!
I finally just did it like I should have.
Took a 10 mile one way trip into town (we live in the equivalent of the "outback" cooldude) for a fricken 9 volt battery for the Fluke multi-meter.

An hour later... put one end of the Fluke on the Br/W in the connector, and the other on the Violet/white in the fuse box.  Bingo. Continuity.

So this goofy connector is for the ABS, and guess I'll just fill it full of silicon to keep the dust and water out.  Lips Sealed
So neither the colors not the nor quantity of wires match the schematic. 
I guess the schematics should considered... guidelines... or maybe hints...
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Thanks for the attempts guys.

All that said - that was a great video of the Power Commander install.  I'm going to look at that in more detail.  One of the tasks on this projects is to weld bungs into Legacy Valk exhaust to accommodate the required O2 sensors - somehow... Shocked the Power Commander does not use them? I thought all FI systems needed to monitor the exhaust?  This could have just saved me a bunch of work!
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 09:28:27 PM »

OMG! (As my grandchildren would say).  Please, no PC.  Get a re-flash of the ECU if you want improved performance or whatever.  IMHO....

Bill
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 07:18:07 AM »

So green is ground in this harness and br/w appears to be used in the headlight circuit.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 07:40:47 AM »

I was only looking at the PC as a means to not have to deal with welding bungs into the Legacy Valk  Exhaust pipes for my project.  If there are additional problems associated therewith, may have to re-think that plan.  I'll look elsewhere in the forum for pros/cons of the PC system.  Thanks for the info.

Re: back to the wiring - yes, green is ground, exclusively I hope...  Br/Wh is what is attached to one of the large connectors pins on my ABS connector - while it is Violet/Wh on the fuse block.  Looking at the schematics, Br/Wh only appears to be used on headlight related systems: headlight fuse, dimmer, relays, etc. 

I'm guessing someone making the harness ran out of Violet/White, and substituted Br/Wh.  I dunno.  FWIW, while in my teens in the USAF, I had a part time job in about 1973 at a wire harness making company around Biloxi MS.  Worked there a couple months IIRC - easy to see how running out of a particular color wire would have someone decide to just substitute something close and move on.  It was a deadline driven process, and you were paid by the piece.  Not sure if this is still done by hand or not - but a lot of the sensors and wiring pieces I have purchased for this project (all from Honda or used off of Ebay) have "Made in China" on them...  Roll Eyes   

 
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