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I found this in the ads in the AMAs mag and thought I'd send the link in case it hasn't been on the forum yet. It's pricey but I made one for only $20. I haven't tested it yet cause it don't want to lay my bike down on purpose. http://www.motobikejack.com/video.html |
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Farside
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 07:14:52 PM » |
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 Great tool to have in my saddlebag. I hate gravel. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2018, 04:33:50 AM » |
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Over the course of 16 years, I have dropped the ol girl twice. Didn't need anything to get her upright. I've been on rides where a friend dropped his Valkyrie in mud and I picked it up no problem. Once you do it a couple times it is not that big a deal. Unnecessary tool. My theory is pick it up quick while you still have the adrenaline from the incident.  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2018, 04:55:27 AM » |
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Over the course of 16 years, I have dropped the ol girl twice. Didn't need anything to get her upright. I've been on rides where a friend dropped his Valkyrie in mud and I picked it up no problem. Once you do it a couple times it is not that big a deal. Unnecessary tool. My theory is pick it up quick while you still have the adrenaline from the incident. I wonder how this would work when there is no traction (snow, for instance). I only ask because my normal technique didn't work for that. Thankfully, the kindness of strangers helped! Then again, that particular incident probably will not happen again. |
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Skinhead
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 05:12:12 AM » |
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I'd drill a few holes in the base an run a few self tapping screws through from the top surface of the base, just long enough so the points of the screws protrude about 1/4" past the base of the plate so that it bites into the pavement and prevents it from slipping.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 05:50:08 AM » |
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Over the course of 16 years, I have dropped the ol girl twice. Didn't need anything to get her upright. I've been on rides where a friend dropped his Valkyrie in mud and I picked it up no problem. Once you do it a couple times it is not that big a deal. Unnecessary tool. My theory is pick it up quick while you still have the adrenaline from the incident. I've done it a few more times than twice, but dropping it isn't fair. More like let it get away from me, then let it down (always stopped or pushing it around, only rolling/riding once). Only the one time I threw it over on the non-deployed kickstand did it approach dropping it. I always powered it up on my own, sometimes harder than other times. It's a good thing it has the fore and aft guards though, I'm not sure how I'd do if it laid down nearly flat. I especially agree with your theory. Although I'm not sure it's adrenaline so much as spiking anger.  Also, it's interesting that in all the videos of it being lifted up backwards or forwards by a gal or guy or with this jack, it's always on the right, so it can be lifted up and over onto the kickstand. Apparently no one ever drops it on the left side. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 05:57:03 AM » |
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I especially agree with your theory. Although it isn't the adrenaline so much as the spiking anger. Don’t forget a little humiliation thrown in for forgetting to put the kickstand down.  |
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2018, 06:02:56 AM » |
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I especially agree with your theory. Although it isn't the adrenaline so much as the spiking anger. Don’t forget a little humiliation thrown in for forgetting to put the kickstand down. That may come later, but at the moment it's just spitting pissedoffedness.  |
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 07:48:05 AM » |
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When a bike goes over and rest on the engine guards on a level surface you are picking up a small portion of the full bikes weight.
If you want a bigger challenge, put the bike over on a down hill slope, were it rest on the engine guards in a position that is over 90 degrees from horizontal.
In this position you are lifting more of the bikes true weight. The further past horizontal the bikes weight goes, than there is more effort required to move the weight.
There is a point where most people can not life the dead weight.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 08:13:34 AM » |
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Over the course of 16 years, I have dropped the ol girl twice. Didn't need anything to get her upright. I've been on rides where a friend dropped his Valkyrie in mud and I picked it up no problem. Once you do it a couple times it is not that big a deal. Unnecessary tool. My theory is pick it up quick while you still have the adrenaline from the incident. Ditto... I've done it twice in 16 years. Once in the garage where your "adrenaline" theory worked wonders. Garage door was open and there was a bunch of neighbours right outside watching, so a bit of embarrassment and my adrenaline got it back upright in a hurry. Second time, fully loaded after 3 weeks on the road to and from Morgantown Inzane where I laid it down on an uphill slope on a gravel pull out. Try as I might, no way I was picking it up on my own... thankfully a guy in a truck happened by within minutes to help... only vehicle I'd seen in over an hour on a lonely road. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2018, 08:22:52 AM » |
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Age, degenerative disc disease and hip replacements have made riding more difficult but I don't want to give up riding...yet. This tool makes it possible to ride a few more years without the thought of being stuck without help. Picking up the bike on flat, dry and solid ground with isn't realistic. I know my limitations.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 08:16:56 AM » |
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Just looked it up. $196.00 Plus shpg. Did NOT price shpg as after the sticker shock-well dat were nuff!  RIDE SAFE. |
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
VRCCDS0240 2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 02:11:05 PM » |
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The last time I dropped the bike I couldn't pick it up. I've always managed to pick up GW's and even the Valk (once) but the Vstrom went past flat, both wheels were off the ground and resting on the soft saddlebags and the front engine guard. Mark's friend came and lifted it, the local Harley service manager. It took two tries for him.
I doubt whether this 196 buck gadget would've worked. However, with caseguards I've seen a 90 pound lady pick up a 1500 GW by backing up to it. That sucker seems to be 'way overpriced. Paint it orange and black and with the Harley shield , it'll sell like hotcakes tho!
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PAVALKER
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 03:57:13 PM » |
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 A bit pricey for what it is. Harbor Freight ratchet strap and some pipe would get er done. As he was ratcheting that up, note the base was leaning and could have kicked out and up into his groin area since we was straddling it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 06:19:27 AM » |
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A bit pricey for what it is. Harbor Freight ratchet strap and some pipe would get er done. As he was ratcheting that up, note the base was leaning and could have kicked out and up into his groin area since we was straddling it. See reply 4 above. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 10:53:49 AM » |
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Just looked it up. $196.00 Plus shpg. Did NOT price shpg as after the sticker shock-well dat were nuff! RIDE SAFE. "Shipping Info FLAT RATE SHIPPING TO LOWER 48 STATES IS $32.00 AND HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE TOTAL PRICE. INTERNATIONAL ORDERS MUST BE QUOTED INDIVIDUALLY BASED UPON SHIPPING DESTINATION. PRODUCT USUALLY SHIPS WITHIN 6-10 DAYS." Dennis, Maybe have Ross make us a couple :-) |
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Alberta Patriot
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 11:15:19 AM » |
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Just had a look in my garage. I have most of what I need to make one. I don't think it would be too much trouble.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 12:44:47 PM » |
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Just looked it up. $196.00 Plus shpg. Did NOT price shpg as after the sticker shock-well dat were nuff! RIDE SAFE. "Shipping Info FLAT RATE SHIPPING TO LOWER 48 STATES IS $32.00 AND HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE TOTAL PRICE. INTERNATIONAL ORDERS MUST BE QUOTED INDIVIDUALLY BASED UPON SHIPPING DESTINATION. PRODUCT USUALLY SHIPS WITHIN 6-10 DAYS." Dennis, Maybe have Ross make us a couple :-) Perzackly what I were thinkin Tommy! I believe He and Bon are still out and about. AND I'd hazard a guess he might could come up with an "improvement" on it. RIDE SAFE. |
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2018, 01:03:00 PM » |
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Over the course of 16 years, I have dropped the ol girl twice. Didn't need anything to get her upright. I've been on rides where a friend dropped his Valkyrie in mud and I picked it up no problem. Once you do it a couple times it is not that big a deal. Unnecessary tool. My theory is pick it up quick while you still have the adrenaline from the incident. I wonder how this would work when there is no traction (snow, for instance). I only ask because my normal technique didn't work for that. Thankfully, the kindness of strangers helped! Then again, that particular incident probably will not happen again. Had it happen once on smooth concrete with some algae under a puddle. Was turning around in a covered area that had the puddle and the front dropped right out from under me. It was like ice. I had to lift the bike while facing it and lift straight up (like dead lifting). The usual method just allowed my feet to slip away from the bike. I agree with Chris. Quick, while the adrenaline is still there!  |
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2018, 03:32:26 PM » |
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A bit pricey for what it is. Harbor Freight ratchet strap and some pipe would get er done. As he was ratcheting that up, note the base was leaning and could have kicked out and up into his groin area since we was straddling it. See reply 4 above. I wasn't asking a question but I did see your comment about adding screws to the bottom. Then you have to make a cover for those so it doesn't scratch your saddle bag, or rip thru your soft bag. My first comment regarding price negates the need for me to modify it, let alone get it. For as often as I have dropped my bike, I'd buy a six pack of beer to the person that gave me assist to lift, if needed, and be way ahead of the game.....and hopefully chuckling about it over a few cold ones. For the price, it should have the anti-slip grip, self expanding pipe and automatically do it all without my touching it. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2018, 03:35:12 PM » |
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A bit pricey for what it is. Harbor Freight ratchet strap and some pipe would get er done. As he was ratcheting that up, note the base was leaning and could have kicked out and up into his groin area since we was straddling it. See reply 4 above. I wasn't asking a question but I did see your comment about adding screws to the bottom. Then you have to make a cover for those so it doesn't scratch your saddle bag, or rip thru your soft bag. My first comment regarding price negates the need for me to modify it, let alone get it. For as often as I have dropped my bike, I'd buy a six pack of beer to the person that gave me assist to lift, if needed, and be way ahead of the game.....and hopefully chuckling about it over a few cold ones. For the price, it should have the anti-slip grip, self expanding pipe and automatically do it all without my touching it. I agree, it is pricey. I like your method better. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 04:40:42 PM » |
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In my original post I mentioned I made one for $20.. The winch strap was on sale for $10 and the pipe and fittings (1\2 inch) worked out so that the T at the top fit between the brackets of the winch so I didn't have to weld anything. Two 36" pipes, a flange for the bottom and a T. Hooking to the bottom of the bike I had to use a strap around the drivers pegs.
$20 is a small enough investment for a little peace of mind.
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2018, 06:33:32 AM » |
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instead of using a flat foot on the pipe, run the pipe through the foot about 3 inches and cut the end of the pipe to a point. that way the foot will at least have a point to hold it in place and let it swivel without jumping out and hitting you between the legs
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2018, 07:32:02 AM » |
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A decade ago, when I first got my Valk, I watched the videos showing how to pick up a large motorcycle and deliberately set the Valk on its side to see if I could pick it up. No problem where there is normal traction. However, it did not work on the smooth floor of my garage.
Several years ago, I set the bike down while making a U-turn on a two lane road. The incline of the road and a bad knee did not allow me to pick it up. But within two minutes I had a dozen bikers stop to lend assistance. I selected an able bodied rider and taught him how to properly pick up a motorcycle alone. I rode away slightly embarsed but realized that all there learned something.
IMHO, this jack is not needed, knowledge does not weigh anything and takes up no space in the saddle bag...
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2018, 08:59:55 AM » |
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Just looked it up. $196.00 Plus shpg. Did NOT price shpg as after the sticker shock-well dat were nuff! RIDE SAFE. "Shipping Info FLAT RATE SHIPPING TO LOWER 48 STATES IS $32.00 AND HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE TOTAL PRICE. INTERNATIONAL ORDERS MUST BE QUOTED INDIVIDUALLY BASED UPON SHIPPING DESTINATION. PRODUCT USUALLY SHIPS WITHIN 6-10 DAYS." Dennis, Maybe have Ross make us a couple :-) Perzackly what I were thinkin Tommy! I believe He and Bon are still out and about. AND I'd hazard a guess he might could come up with an "improvement" on it. RIDE SAFE. You ride safe as well! |
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