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Started by old2soon, Mon 19, Mar 2018, 09:42:21

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old2soon

As some of you are aware there IS a lot of good programing on Public T V. A recent addition I am liking a Lot is-Craftsman's Legacy. Todays offering had him in Tahlequah Ok. at the Cherokee Museum. They were making arrows and the arrow heads like generations did before them. Mother Nature supplied everything material wise for the construction of the arrows. Very intriguing watching the materials transformed into a useful tool/weapon. Also making some of the tools needed for the arrow making. How it was Before high tech! RIDE SAFE.
Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check.  1964  1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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Hacked Valk

PBS is about the only thing on TV worth watching anymore and "a Craftsman Legacy" is a good example.  I just wish they didn't have to do the all too frequent fund raising.  I do understand why they do.  During those times it really cuts back on the time I spend watching tv in the evenings. 
The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.

G-Man


Pete

Thanks for the info, will try.

northernvalk

"Craftsman Legacy".........I thought that was an empty sears parking lot....... ;)

old2soon

Quote from: Hacked Valk on Mon 19, Mar 2018, 10:32:37
PBS is about the only thing on TV worth watching anymore and "a Craftsman Legacy" is a good example.  I just wish they didn't have to do the all too frequent fund raising.  I do understand why they do.  During those times it really cuts back on the time I spend watching tv in the evenings. 
I have 3 public channels available to me and one of them is generally asking for funding. Monday nights I enjoy Antiques Road Show-BUT-seems the last few weeks they use That time slot-A R S-for the funding appeal. Course Sat and Sun nights did have some do wop and soul music-tween the funding appeals!  :2funny: What I do NOT understand is one of my 3 public channels have 24/7 childrens programming!  :uglystupid2: RIDE SAFE.
Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check.  1964  1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
VRCCDS0240  2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion

Jess from VA

#6
If they'd just stick with this stuff and history and Ken Burns and not do their (milder version of) leftist news and politics, I might think they are a pretty good channel.  I still watch the good stuff from time to time (because it's as good as it gets), but I laugh when they ask for money.

When every public dollar comes out of their budget (TV and radio; PBS, NPR), democracy will be served.  I do not support public funding for the DNC (or the RNC either, not that I've been able to find any of that).

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/12/22/time-for-trump-makeover-of-liberal-npr-and-pbs/

https://current.org/2017/10/book-by-former-npr-ceo-expands-on-liberal-groupthink-at-network/

https://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2017/04/11/523400821/political-bias-complaints-dominate-ombudsman-inbox

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-government-spending-for-pbs-be-cut/pbs-epitomizes-liberal-elite




Ramie

Quote from: old2soon on Mon 19, Mar 2018, 09:42:21
As some of you are aware there IS a lot of good programing on Public T V. A recent addition I am liking a Lot is-Craftsman's Legacy. Todays offering had him in Tahlequah Ok. at the Cherokee Museum. They were making arrows and the arrow heads like generations did before them. Mother Nature supplied everything material wise for the construction of the arrows. Very intriguing watching the materials transformed into a useful tool/weapon. Also making some of the tools needed for the arrow making. How it was Before high tech! RIDE SAFE.

Isn't that cultural appropriation?
"I am not a courageous person by nature. I have simply discovered that, at certain key moments in this life, you must find courage in yourself, in order to move forward and live. It is like a muscle and it must be exercised, first a little, and then more and more.  A deep breath and a leap."

¿spoom

Quote from: Jess from VA on Mon 19, Mar 2018, 15:14:05
If they'd just stick with this stuff and history and Ken Burns and not do their (milder version of) leftist news and politics, I might think they are a pretty good channel.  I still watch the good stuff from time to time (because it's as good as it gets), but I laugh when they ask for money.

When every public dollar comes out of their budget (TV and radio; PBS, NPR), democracy will be served.  I do not support public funding for the DNC (or the RNC either, not that I've been able to find any of that).

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/12/22/time-for-trump-makeover-of-liberal-npr-and-pbs/

https://current.org/2017/10/book-by-former-npr-ceo-expands-on-liberal-groupthink-at-network/

https://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2017/04/11/523400821/political-bias-complaints-dominate-ombudsman-inbox

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-government-spending-for-pbs-be-cut/pbs-epitomizes-liberal-elite




100% agree, there's simply no longer any reason to have taxpayer supported television programming. In an age where there's 100+ channels available to a vast majority of watchers, and more providers falling out of every shaken tree, lately, PBS could easily fund itself like other networks. I do like a lot of their programming, but that's exactly why they'd be as successful as say, the History Channel or Discovery Channel or Spanish version ESPN -people like/watch their programming. Henson made literally billions from the Muppets, while taxpayer funding subsidized the transmission? Nootz.

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: ¿spoom on Tue 20, Mar 2018, 08:41:30
Quote from: Jess from VA on Mon 19, Mar 2018, 15:14:05
If they'd just stick with this stuff and history and Ken Burns and not do their (milder version of) leftist news and politics, I might think they are a pretty good channel.  I still watch the good stuff from time to time (because it's as good as it gets), but I laugh when they ask for money.

When every public dollar comes out of their budget (TV and radio; PBS, NPR), democracy will be served.  I do not support public funding for the DNC (or the RNC either, not that I've been able to find any of that).

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/12/22/time-for-trump-makeover-of-liberal-npr-and-pbs/

https://current.org/2017/10/book-by-former-npr-ceo-expands-on-liberal-groupthink-at-network/

https://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2017/04/11/523400821/political-bias-complaints-dominate-ombudsman-inbox

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-government-spending-for-pbs-be-cut/pbs-epitomizes-liberal-elite




100% agree, there's simply no longer any reason to have taxpayer supported television programming. In an age where there's 100+ channels available to a vast majority of watchers, and more providers falling out of every shaken tree, lately, PBS could easily fund itself like other networks. I do like a lot of their programming, but that's exactly why they'd be as successful as say, the History Channel or Discovery Channel or Spanish version ESPN -people like/watch their programming. Henson made literally billions from the Muppets, while taxpayer funding subsidized the transmission? Nootz.
Billions ? He must have pissed away a lot of money ?  ???
https://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/director/jim-henson-net-worth/

Psychotic Bovine

Well, he did sell Kermit and Co for 680 million.  And that was just one thing I found.  It's likely he did go through over a billion before he died, to only have a net worth of 20 mil.
"I aim to misbehave."

¿spoom

Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Tue 20, Mar 2018, 09:36:44
Well, he did sell Kermit and Co for 680 million.  And that was just one thing I found.  It's likely he did go through over a billion before he died, to only have a net worth of 20 mil.

I recall a story over a decade ago where the amount of money the Muppets had earned was already over  Billion, and I realize looking back, that I totally wrote that "Henson made literally billions from the Muppets" wrong. I was trying to describe Henson's Muppets made literally billions. How much did all the Sesame Street licensing bring in, I can't imagine, yet things were structured so that PBS had to have taxpayers chip in? It may have made some sense when there were 3 networks and rabbit ears, but the taxpayer financial plug should have been pulled once cable/dish/broadband networks became profitable. 

Hook#3287

Well, all the political comments notwithstanding, I watched my first "Craftsman Legacy" today.

Thanks Old2soon for suggesting it.

Great show on Cherokee arrow making and Noel Grayson is indeed a "National Treasure"

Can't wait for the next show :cooldude:

¿spoom

Quote from: Hook#3287 on Tue 20, Mar 2018, 17:01:08
Well, all the political comments notwithstanding, I watched my first "Craftsman Legacy" today.

Thanks Old2soon for suggesting it.

Great show on Cherokee arrow making and Noel Grayson is indeed a "National Treasure"

Can't wait for the next show :cooldude:

I'll try and catch it. I like to watch the Woodsmith's Shop and Forged in Fire sometimes, this sounds equally worthy. :cooldude:

scooperhsd

Quote from: ¿spoom on Tue 20, Mar 2018, 08:41:30
Quote from: Jess from VA on Mon 19, Mar 2018, 15:14:05
If they'd just stick with this stuff and history and Ken Burns and not do their (milder version of) leftist news and politics, I might think they are a pretty good channel.  I still watch the good stuff from time to time (because it's as good as it gets), but I laugh when they ask for money.

When every public dollar comes out of their budget (TV and radio; PBS, NPR), democracy will be served.  I do not support public funding for the DNC (or the RNC either, not that I've been able to find any of that).

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/12/22/time-for-trump-makeover-of-liberal-npr-and-pbs/

https://current.org/2017/10/book-by-former-npr-ceo-expands-on-liberal-groupthink-at-network/

https://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2017/04/11/523400821/political-bias-complaints-dominate-ombudsman-inbox

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-government-spending-for-pbs-be-cut/pbs-epitomizes-liberal-elite




100% agree, there's simply no longer any reason to have taxpayer supported television programming. In an age where there's 100+ channels available to a vast majority of watchers, and more providers falling out of every shaken tree, lately, PBS could easily fund itself like other networks. I do like a lot of their programming, but that's exactly why they'd be as successful as say, the History Channel or Discovery Channel or Spanish version ESPN -people like/watch their programming. Henson made literally billions from the Muppets, while taxpayer funding subsidized the transmission? Nootz.

IF those cable channels you mentioned had stayed doing their original programming, I might agree with you. But since they have started doing their reality-based TV crap, no thanks... There IS STILL a place for Public TV (and Radio)

Hacked Valk

Timely.  I just returned today from that venue.  The tour was great and we watched the gentleman demonstrate flint knapping.  It was a great demo well presented.  He said he had been flint knapping all his life.  The museum itself was very moving.  Learned a lot about the causes of the forced migration of the 1830's.  Money and politics of course and president Andrew Jackson.  
The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.