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https://gellerreport.com/2018/03/muslim-cop-chraged-murder-damond.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebookMinneapolis Somali-Muslim cop Mohamed Noor shot unarmed, pajama-clad Justine Damond to death at point blank range. On the force since 2015, he had three complaints against him. He is described by neighbors as “jumpy,” “ill-tempered,” “strict” and “disrespectful of women and blacks.” What was he still doing on the force? Typical of jihad operatives, the lawyer of the Muslim police officer who shot dead Justine Damond in cold blood is smeared and defamed the victim. Exactly what they do to us for opposing jihad terror. Police officer’s Mohamed Noor lawyer caused controversy for reportedly asking for a review into Justine Damond’s autopsy report to see if she had taken sleeping pills. ‘It was absolutely sickening, and that’s the game these lawyers play, to try to attack the victim,’ family spokesman Tom Hyder said. Officer who fatally shot Justine Damond is charged with murder by Daniella Silva and Corky Siemaszko, NVC News, Mar 20 2018: The Minneapolis police officer who mistakenly shot and killed an Australian woman in July was behind bars Tuesday on charges of third-degree murder. Officer Mohamed Noor was also charged with second-degree manslaughter in connection with the death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond, according to records from the Hennepin County Jail. It was not clear whether Noor turned himself in or was arrested on a warrant, but Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman was expected to reveal more details later Tuesday. Freeman had previously said that investigators did not have probable cause to charge Noor for fatally shooting Damond, a 40-year-old expat, after she called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her home. Hijab-wearing Mayor Betsy Hodges instituted hiring policies in the police department to prioritize the hiring of Somali Muslims. This at a time when more than 22 young men from the community had left the state to join al-Shabab in Somalia, and roughly a dozen people have left in recent years to join the jihad in Syria, including the Islamic State group. The area in Minneapolis where Muslim killer-cop was recruited and fast-tracked for police work is a notorious hot spot for jihad recruitment.
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 02:34:52 PM » |
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Based on what I know about the case this was the right decision. He shot her from the passenger seat of the squad, across the body of his partner. He heard a noise and saw a shadow. This will be interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 04:32:44 PM » |
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I was glad to read this as well...
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2018, 05:14:35 AM » |
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Tragic situation, I don't imagine his partner was very pleased that he shot across him out his window. It was probably a mistake to partner two rookies together. I know police are nervous but I guess the lesson in this is do not sneak up on a police car in the middle of the night in an alley no matter how good your intentions are.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2018, 05:49:17 AM » |
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Tragic situation, I don't imagine his partner was very pleased that he shot across him out his window. It was probably a mistake to partner two rookies together. I know police are nervous but I guess the lesson in this is do not sneak up on a police car in the middle of the night in an alley no matter how good your intentions are.
she did not sneak up on the police car. she called 911 and that is why they were there and waiting for the caller to show up. suggest u read the org articles when this happened. very simple why did he have his weapon drawn and his finger on the trigger?
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 06:01:02 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 10:07:44 AM » |
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Tragic situation, I don't imagine his partner was very pleased that he shot across him out his window. It was probably a mistake to partner two rookies together. I know police are nervous but I guess the lesson in this is do not sneak up on a police car in the middle of the night in an alley no matter how good your intentions are.
she did not sneak up on the police car. she called 911 and that is why they were there and waiting for the caller to show up. suggest u read the org articles when this happened. very simple why did he have his weapon drawn and his finger on the trigger? I am quite sure Ramie knows the details of this tragedy as he is from the area as am I. “Snuck up” maybe not the best words but she did appear as a surprise to them. Jumpy rookie cop at night. Very unfortunate.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2018, 10:17:01 AM » |
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Tragic situation, I don't imagine his partner was very pleased that he shot across him out his window. It was probably a mistake to partner two rookies together. I know police are nervous but I guess the lesson in this is do not sneak up on a police car in the middle of the night in an alley no matter how good your intentions are.
she did not sneak up on the police car. she called 911 and that is why they were there and waiting for the caller to show up. suggest u read the org articles when this happened. very simple why did he have his weapon drawn and his finger on the trigger? I am quite sure Ramie knows the details of this tragedy as he is from the area as am I. “Snuck up” maybe not the best words but she did appear as a surprise to them. Jumpy rookie cop at night. Very unfortunate. why would she be a surprise to them? she called for them and that is why they were there expecting the person who called to see them. Maybe I watch Adam-12 too much and how it was and still should be.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 11:33:18 AM » |
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This is an especially bad example, but there are plenty of other stories over the years of folks calling the police for aid/assistance and later getting shot (or almost shot).
Not pointing fingers at anyone (cops or citizens), but if you report a burglary in progress, even if you tell them you are going to be outside near that outbuilding, don't be surprised if you are later thought to be the burglar. These things rarely go down in daylight, and no one wants to be wearing day glow clothing or a light.
If calling for assistance, and they say they are on the way, better to tell dispatch what you look like and where you will be, and meet the arriving officers (in plain view) to direct them to the trouble spot.
Hiding near the action is not a good idea.
Just two months ago, at 2AM, we had 5-7 cruisers, lights ablaze, but no sirens, moving corner to corner through my subdivision (and a helicopter came and went). I started to get a bit nervous about the time they had my house quartered on all sides. (I hadn't committed any crimes that I was aware of lately.) I thought it might be some kind of exercise or something, although it turned out they were looking for a guy. I had considered that too, and had double checked my back yard (all behind fence and landscape cover), to make sure someone wasn't hiding out there. Firearms are always close at hand, but one got closer at hand.
Bottom line is, I thought about walking out there and just asking what was going on, but then I thought that was not such a good idea (lest I be thought to be the guy they were looking for, and get to be a tackle dummy).
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2018, 02:06:20 PM » |
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Tragic situation, I don't imagine his partner was very pleased that he shot across him out his window. It was probably a mistake to partner two rookies together. I know police are nervous but I guess the lesson in this is do not sneak up on a police car in the middle of the night in an alley no matter how good your intentions are.
she did not sneak up on the police car. she called 911 and that is why they were there and waiting for the caller to show up. suggest u read the org articles when this happened. very simple why did he have his weapon drawn and his finger on the trigger? I am quite sure Ramie knows the details of this tragedy as he is from the area as am I. “Snuck up” maybe not the best words but she did appear as a surprise to them. Jumpy rookie cop at night. Very unfortunate. why would she be a surprise to them? she called for them and that is why they were there expecting the person who called to see them. Maybe I watch Adam-12 too much and how it was and still should be. She shouldn’t have been a surprise. He was a bad cop.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2018, 02:34:27 PM » |
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A jury should find second degree murder and guilty.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2018, 03:25:40 PM » |
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A jury should find second degree murder and guilty.
I thought they couldn't convict a higher degree offense than what they were charged with ?
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2018, 04:11:27 PM » |
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A jury should find second degree murder and guilty.
I thought they couldn't convict a higher degree offense than what they were charged with ? After the trial (prosecution and defense cases), the judge instructs the jury on all of it's possible verdicts (and both pros. and defense get to argue about those instructions, though the judge decides). The jury is bound to follow those instructions. Even this Somali equal opportunity hire cop (I'm guessing on that), will almost certainly be offered a plea deal which he will happily take. It won't be a plea of guilt to higher than the top charge (and it might be to a lower charge), and he won't care about the charge/plea at all, but will care about the sentence cap. The fact he is only charged with what they are calling 3d degree murder (known everywhere else as voluntary manslaughter), shows they are already giving him a deal. IMHO, the facts of the case clearly support 2d degree murder. When you point your gun at someone and intentionally pull the trigger hoping to shoot them (and kill them), the only thing lacking from 1st degree murder is premeditation (assuming you are shooting an innocent person, with no lawful justification). This shooting was not accidental.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 04:33:06 PM » |
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A jury should find second degree murder and guilty.
I thought they couldn't convict a higher degree offense than what they were charged with ? Depends on the State. In some states the jury has greater latitude than others. In sentencing and crime committed. The juries in some states are not bound by the judge instructions. The judge may get pissed and may toss out the juries verdict, at the risk of being removed from the bench and a mistrial. Judges are referees not juries.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 04:35:31 PM » |
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A jury should find second degree murder and guilty.
I thought they couldn't convict a higher degree offense than what they were charged with ? Depends on the State. In some states the jury has greater latitude than others. In sentencing and crime committed. The juries in some states are not bound by the judge instructions. The judge may get pissed and may toss out the juries verdict, at the risk of being removed from the bench and a mistrial. Judges are referees not juries. I didn't know that. I assumed in all states you couldn't be convicted of a crime higher than what you were charged with.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 04:50:39 PM » |
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A jury should find second degree murder and guilty.
I thought they couldn't convict a higher degree offense than what they were charged with ? Depends on the State. In some states the jury has greater latitude than others. In sentencing and crime committed. The juries in some states are not bound by the judge instructions. The judge may get pissed and may toss out the juries verdict, at the risk of being removed from the bench and a mistrial. Judges are referees not juries. I didn't know that. I assumed in all states you couldn't be convicted of a crime higher than what you were charged with. Many years ago in a case here, the jury was not happy with charges nor the proscribed sentences. So they they convicted the defendants, disregarded the judge instructions and convicted them for the real actual crime that occurred and set the sentences well above the instructions. The convictions and sentences were carried out as proscribed by the jury. Neither the judge nor the lawyers said or did anything. Juries do not have to listen to judges or lawyers nor honor instructions given by the judge. Judges and lawyers do not want juries to know that, but it is true.
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2018, 06:03:19 AM » |
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Sneak up wasn't the best description and I don't think the shooting was justified. That said as Jess said, not the best Idea to walk into a situation like that.
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