gunman who opened fire on Calgary police last month, identity not released

[98valk]

Alberta’s police watchdog will not be releasing the identity of the gunman who opened fire on Calgary police last month, a decision that has infuriated the head of the Calgary Police Association.

On Friday, a spokesperson for ASIRT, the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team, said the decision to withhold the gunman’s identity falls within their homicide naming protocol, pointing toward a joint agreement signed by five provincial civilian police oversight agencies.

On the morning of March 27, police were hot on the heels of a suspect connected to a number of carjacking and armed robbery attempts in the northeast Calgary neighbourhood of Abbeydale.

ustification for ASIRT’s position comes from a 2015 joint statement signed by civilian police oversight agencies in Ontario, Nova Scotia, Manitoba, Alberta and B.C., explaining the decision to not release names is to minimize the pain felt by family members of the deceased. 

“Knowing the injured or deceased person by name, instead of as ‘the affected party’ or ‘complainant,’ adds nothing of additional relevance,” the statement reads.

“It does, however, add greatly to the public exposure that will be imposed on the injured person or the family of a deceased. We would argue that the right to privacy of the individuals concerned far outweighs what the public will gain by knowing the name.”

http://calgarysun.com/news/crime/identity-of-gunman-who-shot-calgary-police-officer-will-not-be-released-asirt?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

[bentwrench]

There isn't enough information to say for certain,but this reeks of the left's suicide pact to protect those who attack western culture .The people deserve the TRUTH.

[Robert]

International Covenant on the
Elimination of All forms of 
Racial Discrimination
A different set of requirements prohibiting
particular types of speech is included in 
the International Convention on the
Elimination of Racial Discrimination
(“ICERD”).
16
 This contains much broader
positive obligations on member States to
prohibit incitement than those provided in
Article 20(2) of the ICCPR.
Article 4(a) of the ICERD requires States
to “condemn all propaganda and all
organizations which are based on ideas or
theories of superiority of one race or group
of persons of one colour or ethnic origin,
or which attempt to justify or promote
racial hatred and discrimination in any
form, and undertake to adopt immediate
and positive measures designed to
eradicate all incitement to, or acts of, such
discrimination and, to this end, with due
regard to the principles embodied in [the
UDHR] and the rights expressly set forth in
Article 5 of [the ICERD].”
https://www.article19.org/data/files/medialibrary/3548/ARTICLE-19-policy-on-prohibition-to-incitement.pdf

[98valk]

International Covenant on the
Elimination of All forms of 
Racial Discrimination
A different set of requirements prohibiting
particular types of speech is included in 
the International Convention on the
Elimination of Racial Discrimination
(“ICERD”).
16
 This contains much broader
positive obligations on member States to
prohibit incitement than those provided in
Article 20(2) of the ICCPR.
Article 4(a) of the ICERD requires States
to “condemn all propaganda and all
organizations which are based on ideas or
theories of superiority of one race or group
of persons of one colour or ethnic origin,
or which attempt to justify or promote
racial hatred and discrimination in any
form, and undertake to adopt immediate
and positive measures designed to
eradicate all incitement to, or acts of, such
discrimination and, to this end, with due
regard to the principles embodied in [the
UDHR] and the rights expressly set forth in
Article 5 of [the ICERD].”
https://www.article19.org/data/files/medialibrary/3548/ARTICLE-19-policy-on-prohibition-to-incitement.pdf

"superiority of one race or group of persons "

that's amazing when one considers that the muslim race states they are the superior race/religion and why they must conquer the world. take notice that muslims who follows this No1 race agenda are always putting up the index finger as they are No1. evenmore interesting is that obama always signs his name with a Numeral One through the "O" in obama.

[Alberta Patriot]

The Lefty PC culture sickness is alive and metastasizing like cancer in Canada. Our Fairy Princess Prime Minister made sure of that. I can't turn on Canadian News anymore partly because one look at Trudeau's smarmy grin sets off my gag reflex.  

[BudMan]

The Lefty PC culture sickness is alive and metastasizing like cancer in Canada. Our Fairy Princess Prime Minister made sure of that. I can't turn on Canadian News anymore partly because one look at Trudeau's face sets off my gag reflex. 

I wish I could say, "Come on down, everything is fine here," unfortunately wishing won't make it so. If we want our countries to be better, we have to take them back and make it so.
Good luck to us all.

[Alberta Patriot]

The Lefty PC culture sickness is alive and metastasizing like cancer in Canada. Our Fairy Princess Prime Minister made sure of that. I can't turn on Canadian News anymore partly because one look at Trudeau's face sets off my gag reflex.  

I wish I could say, "Come on down, everything is fine here," unfortunately wishing won't make it so. If we want our countries to be better, we have to take them back and make it so.
Good luck to us all.

Your Country stands a chance...Here the election is all over before the polls close West of "population heavy" Ontario/Quebec and they are Confirmed Liberals.

[Jess from VA]

Releasing identities of violent criminals is pretty consistent with free speech (and certainty not outweighed by his or her relative's ancillary discomfort).  There is always the chance the guy will get acquitted at trial or be released on a technicality, or escape from jail, and the public should know who he is.  The criminal's (and his relative's) rights should never trump the law abiding citizens rights.  NEVER. And how in the hell does not naming the shooter/killer minimize any grief whatsoever of any victim's family members?  If someone shoots down my family member, I want him identified to everyone.  

Not releasing minor's names is probably a good general rule.  Exceptions should be made, however, when in the public interest and safety.

With all the media frenzy and expansive, orgasmic wall-to-wall coverage of school and mass shooters, I can see a very good public policy on NOT glorifying (or maybe even naming) the ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER.  Unlike your run of the mill felon, these maggots all seem to be universally seeking fame and glory, and this should be denied them to the extent possible.

From now on all school and mass shooters should hereafter be referred to as only THE ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER (in insert name of town).  

And the press referred to as the ASSHOLES BEHIND AND FRONT OF THE CAMERAS.

And politicians as THE ASSHOLES IN WASHINGTON.

Similarly, Muhammadan murderers acting alone should never be called lone wolves.  Wolves are noble and magnificent creatures.  They should only ever be referred to as ISLAMIC MURDERERS or ISLAMIC COCKROACHES.

This will probably not catch on.  It's real common in MY house however.

[Alberta Patriot]

Back in the ninety's my son's girlfriend had a life altering experience when her Aunt's lunatic husband was released from prison without the family being warned. He showed up the next day and murdered both her Aunt and Grandmother!! So much for being protected by "The System" who BTW want to remove any guns you might have to defend yourself.

[phideux]

If he was a conservative white guy he would get a full page spread with pictures, name, address, phone number, Google view of his house, dogs name, etc.

[northernvalk]

The Lefty PC culture sickness is alive and metastasizing like cancer in Canada. Our Fairy Princess Prime Minister made sure of that. I can't turn on Canadian News anymore partly because one look at Trudeau's face sets off my gag reflex.  

I wish I could say, "Come on down, everything is fine here," unfortunately wishing won't make it so. If we want our countries to be better, we have to take them back and make it so.
Good luck to us all.

Your Country stands a chance...Here the election is all over before the polls close West of "population heavy" Ontario/Quebec and they are Confirmed Liberals.

We are trying to turn the Tide in Ontario.....but they keep importing voters!!!

[Gryphon Rider]

Releasing identities of violent criminals is pretty consistent with free speech (and certainty not outweighed by his or her relative's ancillary discomfort).  There is always the chance the guy will get acquitted at trial or be released on a technicality, or escape from jail, and the public should know who he is.  The criminal's (and his relative's) rights should never trump the law abiding citizens rights.  NEVER. And how in the hell does not naming the shooter/killer minimize any grief whatsoever of any victim's family members?  If someone shoots down my family member, I want him identified to everyone.  

Not releasing minor's names is probably a good general rule.  Exceptions should be made, however, when in the public interest and safety.

With all the media frenzy and expansive, orgasmic wall-to-wall coverage of school and mass shooters, I can see a very good public policy on NOT glorifying (or maybe even naming) the ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER.  Unlike your run of the mill felon, these maggots all seem to be universally seeking fame and glory, and this should be denied them to the extent possible.

From now on all school and mass shooters should hereafter be referred to as only THE ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER (in insert name of town).  

And the press referred to as the ASSHOLES BEHIND AND FRONT OF THE CAMERAS.

And politicians as THE ASSHOLES IN WASHINGTON.

Similarly, Muhammadan murderers acting alone should never be called lone wolves.  Wolves are noble and magnificent creatures.  They should only ever be referred to as ISLAMIC MURDERERS or ISLAMIC COCKROACHES.

This will probably not catch on.  It's real common in MY house however.

I think many of you are missing information that is common knowledge for anyone aware of this case.  The dead man is the guy who shot the police officer, who is recovering.  After the man shot the officer, he barricaded himself in a residential garage, which burned with him inside.

The policy is to not release the names of victims of homicide, not perpetrators of homicide.  If the shooter were pulled out alive from the garage, I'm sure his name would have been released when he was charged.

I think it's okay to not publicly release the name of the dead perp, sparing his family public shame.  They're going through enough already, I'm sure.

All this happened in Abbeydale, where many that I know live, about a mile as the crow flies from my home.  Friends live a block away from the scene of the perp's death.

[northernvalk]

Releasing identities of violent criminals is pretty consistent with free speech (and certainty not outweighed by his or her relative's ancillary discomfort).  There is always the chance the guy will get acquitted at trial or be released on a technicality, or escape from jail, and the public should know who he is.  The criminal's (and his relative's) rights should never trump the law abiding citizens rights.  NEVER. And how in the hell does not naming the shooter/killer minimize any grief whatsoever of any victim's family members?  If someone shoots down my family member, I want him identified to everyone.  

Not releasing minor's names is probably a good general rule.  Exceptions should be made, however, when in the public interest and safety.

With all the media frenzy and expansive, orgasmic wall-to-wall coverage of school and mass shooters, I can see a very good public policy on NOT glorifying (or maybe even naming) the ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER.  Unlike your run of the mill felon, these maggots all seem to be universally seeking fame and glory, and this should be denied them to the extent possible.

From now on all school and mass shooters should hereafter be referred to as only THE ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER (in insert name of town).  

And the press referred to as the ASSHOLES BEHIND AND FRONT OF THE CAMERAS.

And politicians as THE ASSHOLES IN WASHINGTON.

Similarly, Muhammadan murderers acting alone should never be called lone wolves.  Wolves are noble and magnificent creatures.  They should only ever be referred to as ISLAMIC MURDERERS or ISLAMIC COCKROACHES.

This will probably not catch on.  It's real common in MY house however.

I think many of you are missing information that is common knowledge for anyone aware of this case.  The dead man is the guy who shot the police officer, who is recovering.  After the man shot the officer, he barricaded himself in a residential garage, which burned with him inside.

The policy is to not release the names of victims of homicide, not perpetrators of homicide.  If the shooter were pulled out alive from the garage, I'm sure his name would have been released when he was charged.

I think it's okay to not publicly release the name of the dead perp, sparing his family public shame.  They're going through enough already, I'm sure.

All this happened in Abbeydale, where many that I know live, about a mile as the crow flies from my home.  Friends live a block away from the scene of the perp's death.

Can you confirm the race of this criminal Gryph?  I will reserve judgement/comment until you respond but I have a feeling....

[Jess from VA]

Releasing identities of violent criminals is pretty consistent with free speech (and certainty not outweighed by his or her relative's ancillary discomfort).  There is always the chance the guy will get acquitted at trial or be released on a technicality, or escape from jail, and the public should know who he is.  The criminal's (and his relative's) rights should never trump the law abiding citizens rights.  NEVER. And how in the hell does not naming the shooter/killer minimize any grief whatsoever of any victim's family members?  If someone shoots down my family member, I want him identified to everyone.  

Not releasing minor's names is probably a good general rule.  Exceptions should be made, however, when in the public interest and safety.

With all the media frenzy and expansive, orgasmic wall-to-wall coverage of school and mass shooters, I can see a very good public policy on NOT glorifying (or maybe even naming) the ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER.  Unlike your run of the mill felon, these maggots all seem to be universally seeking fame and glory, and this should be denied them to the extent possible.

From now on all school and mass shooters should hereafter be referred to as only THE ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER (in insert name of town).  

And the press referred to as the ASSHOLES BEHIND AND FRONT OF THE CAMERAS.

And politicians as THE ASSHOLES IN WASHINGTON.

Similarly, Muhammadan murderers acting alone should never be called lone wolves.  Wolves are noble and magnificent creatures.  They should only ever be referred to as ISLAMIC MURDERERS or ISLAMIC COCKROACHES.

This will probably not catch on.  It's real common in MY house however.

I think many of you are missing information that is common knowledge for anyone aware of this case.  The dead man is the guy who shot the police officer, who is recovering.  After the man shot the officer, he barricaded himself in a residential garage, which burned with him inside.

The policy is to not release the names of victims of homicide, not perpetrators of homicide.  If the shooter were pulled out alive from the garage, I'm sure his name would have been released when he was charged.

I think it's okay to not publicly release the name of the dead perp, sparing his family public shame.  They're going through enough already, I'm sure.

All this happened in Abbeydale, where many that I know live, about a mile as the crow flies from my home.  Friends live a block away from the scene of the perp's death.

I didn't understand all that.  Yes, if he's dead, there really is little chance he remains a risk to the public.

But I stand by my point that murderers and violent persons identities should always be released to the public as the default position (maybe even minors), with only rare exceptions.

There are a decent number of cases where someone calls the cops and says... I think that guy is living in the garage across the street.  (or something like this)

[98valk]

[/quote]

I think many of you are missing information that is common knowledge for anyone aware of this case.  The dead man is the guy who shot the police officer, who is recovering.  After the man shot the officer, he barricaded himself in a residential garage, which burned with him inside.

The policy is to not release the names of victims of homicide, not perpetrators of homicide.  If the shooter were pulled out alive from the garage, I'm sure his name would have been released when he was charged.

I think it's okay to not publicly release the name of the dead perp, sparing his family public shame.  They're going through enough already, I'm sure.

All this happened in Abbeydale, where many that I know live, about a mile as the crow flies from my home.  Friends live a block away from the scene of the perp's death.


[/quote]

the guy who died is the perp and should be identified. many, many times today the perp element is a family affair. and now many are muslims who are attacking the police because in their minds they only answer to sharia law and not the laws of the country they live in.  Is it now common knowledge why he was trying to MURDER a police officer?

[northernvalk]

I have a VERY distinct feeling that this individual was either NA indian or islamic immigrant because the current government makes it there personal mission to protect the reputation of both groups with ZERO regard for the people who built this country... needless to say it's a mjor problem

[Gryphon Rider]

Releasing identities of violent criminals is pretty consistent with free speech (and certainty not outweighed by his or her relative's ancillary discomfort).  There is always the chance the guy will get acquitted at trial or be released on a technicality, or escape from jail, and the public should know who he is.  The criminal's (and his relative's) rights should never trump the law abiding citizens rights.  NEVER. And how in the hell does not naming the shooter/killer minimize any grief whatsoever of any victim's family members?  If someone shoots down my family member, I want him identified to everyone.  

Not releasing minor's names is probably a good general rule.  Exceptions should be made, however, when in the public interest and safety.

With all the media frenzy and expansive, orgasmic wall-to-wall coverage of school and mass shooters, I can see a very good public policy on NOT glorifying (or maybe even naming) the ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER.  Unlike your run of the mill felon, these maggots all seem to be universally seeking fame and glory, and this should be denied them to the extent possible.

From now on all school and mass shooters should hereafter be referred to as only THE ASSHOLE BEHIND THE TRIGGER (in insert name of town).  

And the press referred to as the ASSHOLES BEHIND AND FRONT OF THE CAMERAS.

And politicians as THE ASSHOLES IN WASHINGTON.

Similarly, Muhammadan murderers acting alone should never be called lone wolves.  Wolves are noble and magnificent creatures.  They should only ever be referred to as ISLAMIC MURDERERS or ISLAMIC COCKROACHES.

This will probably not catch on.  It's real common in MY house however.

I think many of you are missing information that is common knowledge for anyone aware of this case.  The dead man is the guy who shot the police officer, who is recovering.  After the man shot the officer, he barricaded himself in a residential garage, which burned with him inside.

The policy is to not release the names of victims of homicide, not perpetrators of homicide.  If the shooter were pulled out alive from the garage, I'm sure his name would have been released when he was charged.

I think it's okay to not publicly release the name of the dead perp, sparing his family public shame.  They're going through enough already, I'm sure.

All this happened in Abbeydale, where many that I know live, about a mile as the crow flies from my home.  Friends live a block away from the scene of the perp's death.

Can you confirm the race of this criminal Gryph?  I will reserve judgement/comment until you respond but I have a feeling....

the guy who died is the perp and should be identified. many, many times today the perp element is a family affair. and now many are muslims who are attacking the police because in their minds they only answer to sharia law and not the laws of the country they live in.  Is it now common knowledge why he was trying to MURDER a police officer?

I haven't heard, but I would guess white or native.  The circumstances don't fit a random jihadi-style attack.  The guy robbed a convenience store, then later rang at least a couple of doorbells to try to get keys to steal a car.  I think that's really odd; why wouldn't he pull a gun on a driver stopped at a stop sign or something?  Also, the doorbell ringing happened a 5 or 10 minute walk from the nearest convenience stores.  I don't think he was thinking rationally, perhaps under the influence of drugs.  The police were called by one of the people whose doorbell he rang, and a manhunt with many officers was underway when an officer found him, and was shot.  The perp then entered a garage where a standoff occurred.  I speculate that the perp started the fire in the garage where he was later found burned.

I have a VERY distinct feeling that this individual was either NA indian or islamic immigrant because the current government makes it there personal mission to protect the reputation of both groups with ZERO regard for the people who built this country... needless to say it's a mjor problem

From the quoted news story in the first message on this thread:

"On Friday, a spokesperson for ASIRT, the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team, said the decision to withhold the gunman’s identity falls within their homicide naming protocol, pointing toward a joint agreement signed by five provincial civilian police oversight agencies.
...
Justification for ASIRT’s position comes from a 2015 joint statement signed by civilian police oversight agencies in Ontario, Nova Scotia, Manitoba, Alberta and B.C., explaining the decision to not release names is to minimize the pain felt by family members of the deceased."

So, this 2015 joint statement was developed when the Conservatives were in power.  I don't know that politicians were involved.

[northernvalk]

"Ontario, Nova Scotia, Manitoba, Alberta and B.C."

Who was in charge of those provinces then and now.....leftists... nothing to do with Harper and I am sure against his beliefs. 

I guess his race wasn't "common knowledge" then? We all know it was a indian and that is why the police are so angry about the decision.  They are sick and tired of reduced sentences or NO sentences! Tired of yoyo police work, send them in only to come flying back out! Drum ceremonies as "punishment"! It's a joke and bill c-75 just made it A LOT worse!!!