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larue
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« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2018, 04:20:14 PM »

Sorry to see this but thankful to  see you alive and telling us about it . Right now focus on you and don't make any rush decisions on the bike fate, your still overwhelmed with the aftermath of the accident . Heal fast brother
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« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2018, 08:27:14 PM »

Update:  Seven broken ribs sucks big time, but I’m out of the ICU and in a regular hospital room.  The Mayo Clinic is treating me nice.

Prayers,  heal, take the Dr advise and follow it. It can get worse if you don't.


As for the Valk, it’s condition is uncertain.  Front end is destroyed, tank is dented, I believe that there is no frame damage.  If insurance totals it out, right now I think I would let it go.  That would be a shame as it has accessories that most of you would drool over.  But that decision is largely a statement of my condition and not the bike’s.  I sincerely believe that I escaped death, once again.  I often thought that Lady Val would be the last bike I’d ride and here we are...

You might not think the frame is bent, but after about 2 weeks outside, with the tank and seat off, I could see the rust coming out from cracks in the paint, frame was bent.

Insurance wrote off the bike ($10K), and I bought it back ($1.5K). It was an IS, so I sold off the parts for almost as much as a whole bike was worth. Even if you just buy it back for the unobtanium.

Continued good luck, and health.
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BobB
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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2018, 05:32:33 PM »

Update:  I have now been realeased from the hospital and am at home.  I’m probably feeling better than I deserve.  I have been seen by all kinds of trama doctors including those who deal with concussions.  My body took a severe impact that was broken by the windshield, but it stopped me from tumbling down the pavement or guard rail.  That would have been much more serious if not fatal.  But I’m still here.  

I hope to visit the bike tomorrow, about 45 miles away.  Been in touch with Progressive Insurance, they will move the bike to Minneapolis to evaluate it.  I can supply them with a list of around 100 add-ons including costs.  My policy covers them up to a limit.  We will see how this plays out.  

Thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers, it has ment a lot...
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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2018, 05:42:22 PM »

Update:  I have now been realeased from the hospital and am at home.  I’m probably feeling better than I deserve.  I have been seen by all kinds of trama doctors including those who deal with concussions.  My body took a severe impact that was broken by the windshield, but it stopped me from tumbling down the pavement or guard rail.  That would have been much more serious if not fatal.  But I’m still here.  

I hope to visit the bike tomorrow, about 45 miles away.  Been in touch with Progressive Insurance, they will move the bike to Minneapolis to evaluate it.  I can supply them with a list of around 100 add-ons including costs.  My policy covers them up to a limit.  We will see how this plays out.  

Thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers, it has ment a lot...




If it is like my progressive policy the accessories is included up to 3000 bucks on all 4 of my cycles each one so that is not too shabby if you can prove you have 3 grand in accessory add ons. 
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bill-jr
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« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2018, 06:04:38 PM »

I kept mine after insurance totalled it . . .
only 500 bucks less to keep it. . .
Im sure it will be totalled . . .
Sorry about the ribs that sucks . . .
The worst part for me was trying to wipe my rear. . .
I only had two broke ribs . . .
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Savago
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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2018, 06:12:50 PM »

What a shame, such beautiful Valkyrie...

Hope you get better soon.
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DDT (12)
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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2018, 05:46:05 AM »

BobB,

Amazing, isn't it? There is so much sensible, sound advice available here and so freely shared. Hard to find any fault in the logic of any of it, either... I especially identify with all that which centers around not making hasty decisions unless one has his/her back to the wall. What to do with that gorgeous bike of yours… heck, whether or not to even return to riding! Tough choices that must be made... sometime...

I favor keeping those options in front of us for a time when they can be made with less emotion and more logic. Not that you couldn't do that now... However... having experienced such a recent Boo-Boo, the event, and pain, associated with it can't help but color your judgement. You know this, of course... I'm just reminding you...   coolsmiley

Whatever you eventually decide, I'm hopeful it will be what's best for you, and that you do make your choices yourself! All of us care about you and your welfare, and we do mean well. Only you, however, can know as much as you do about yourself and those things; therefore, only you can know what the answers are. We may suggest things to you, but...

Good luck! First thing is to get you well... Regardless of how all this plays out, we still have some gatherings coming up, and your presences, on a bike or in a car, is earnestly requested!!!

DDT
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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2018, 06:12:17 AM »

Happy that you are able to post and respond. Accidents suck. May the healing process go smoothly (?).

                 da prez
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BobB
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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2018, 10:10:09 AM »

I'm finding it difficult to sit at my laptop to compose this post, but I have hopes that it may be of some benefit to some of my VRCC Brothers and Sisters.  

Last Sunday was a gorgeous day to ride here in Minnesota, and the road surfaces were largely clear of sand.  I suited up in my usual gear, jeans, touring boots, summer weight armored jacket, gloves and helmet.  I set out on a very familiar route over to the Mississippi  river, stopping for a bite to eat at Slippery's in Wabasha.  Yes, that's the favorite hangout in the movie "Grumpy Old Men".  Stomach satisfied and only iced tea consumed, I crossed the river over to the state of my birth, Wisconsin, and headed North on  US-35.  I wasn't going very far today as there was a chance the Susan would bring her 96 year old mother, Emilie, out to the house and I wanted to be around.  I often enjoy riding the back roads in this region, the lettered county roads that wind through the hills and valleys leading down to the main river valley, but this day was to be cut short.  Rode North as far a Stockholm, stopped to walk and stretch, and turned back South, again to stop at Nelson Cheese Factory for ice cream.  I was able to park on the street right in front to the door, where, as usual, Lady Val got plenty of attention.  After a double scoop of chocolate, I called Sue, informing her that I was on my way home.  

Crossing back into Minnesota, I proceeded West on MN-60 where I planned to ride to Zumbro Falls, then South to Rochester.  MN-60 is a winding road by Minnesota standards with hills, and does not allow many opportunities to pass vehicles.  It has two MotoX tracks along this route, one, Spring Creek, is a internationally known AMA track.  There is often pickups with MX bikes and/or pulling enclosed trailers along the route.  

I was pushing my Jade Lady at a moderate pace, still leery of the road surface condition and with only about 300 miles to my credit this spring, I was working on my lines through these curves.  Don't know if it is just me, but, even after 40+ years in the saddle, I seem to have to relearn the "best practices" every spring.  This was a long winter.

Now for the gist of it, and I want to say it was all on me.  I rode up on a pickup pulling an enclosed trailer and followed for a while.  No legal opportunity to pass, double yellow everywhere.  We all know that our Valkyries can accelerate like few other vehicles, and even on such roads I have maneuvered around traffic with success.  I saw what my 73 year old mind thought was such an opportunity.  Not so, the instant calculations concerning speed, acceleration, time and distance were flawed.  A sharper, 40 MPH left hand curve to a bridge approach was a primary item that was not accounted for.  That, with moving back to the right lane after the pass, set me up at entirely the wrong angle to negotiate the curve at the speed I was going after the pass.  Climbing on the binders I reduced my speed considerably but not enough.  In addition, seeing the end of that guard rail, I target fixated on it, so of course that's where we went, head on, right into the end.  I have practiced the skills to avoid "target fixation" so many times, but it seems to no avail.  

The bike and I stopped very abruptly.  The forks absorbed most of the impact but the end of the guard rail did have a energy absorption feature that may have helped too.  That will have to be put back together and I assume we will see a charge from MN-DOT.  The laws of physics prevailing, I was thrown forward, largely into the windshield.  But my right rib cage contacted the throttle side controls.  All in all the bike stopped me from tumbling down the pavement or the top of the guard rail.  I ended up on the ground, clear of the bike.  At least two vehicles stopped to help out, one being the pickup I had passed.  I laid there for about two minutes, did not loose conscientiousness, got to me feet and was able to walk around.  

The bike was automatically killed when my ribs contacted the cruise control switch block which was mounted on a home made bracket overlapping the kill switch.  Believe me, that design was not intentional for a situation such as this.  Who would do that.  

As you see, I have not lost my sick humor and I am recovering as fast as my old body allows.  Swelling going down in my left sprained wrist, will get the stitches out of my chin on Monday, but the seven broken ribs will take weeks to heal.  I will not make it to Inzane XVIII, but may get there next year, I won't say how.  

The things I want to leave you with is that situations like this are usually caused by multiple mistakes, one compounding the next.  I am no one to preach, but no matter how many years, or miles, you have behind you in the saddle, please continue to improve your riding abilities through classes, exercises and practice, practice, practice.  I wish you all Safe Journeys...                            







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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2018, 10:18:51 AM »

Thanks for sharing your story. It’s very easy for all of us to get in the exact position you found yourself in. Thanks for the heads up not to get complacent. I sure am glad you survived.  Smiley Take care and see you next year.
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old2soon
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« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2018, 05:08:05 PM »

Also I am 73 years on this orb. I have found myself overpowering curves and such like. Angels GOD Good Spirits were indeed with you on yer abrupt stop. I've not only heard and received this statement I send it out yet again-Could have been mucho worse. After a couple of rides with J T-my ridin friend here bouts-I now let him lead as he do maintain a nicer saner pace.  coolsmiley Ask the six members here including my Brother that I had lead to Spearfish with. They'll tell you I ride too fast. Again-glad yer here to telate the Facts of yer unload. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2018, 05:19:25 PM »

Bob, thanks for the play by play. I know some find it morbid to read how an accident happened, but I think a first person explanation can help other riders learn to be a better rider.
We’ve all been in that OH CRAP moment and you writing this out, might just save someone’s bacon.
Be well, heal up, and thanks,
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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2018, 08:12:23 AM »

That looks like a beautiful road.  Hope you get to ride it again on your Valk.

If the frame isn't bent, looks like you can put her back together.

Good luck.
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« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2018, 01:42:26 PM »

So glad it ended as it did...those rails are dangerous. Hope you're feeling better!
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« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2018, 09:54:30 AM »

Bob,

thank you for sharing, we share the same state and boy those roads look very familiar.

Michael

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« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2018, 02:14:27 PM »

So glad it ended as it did...those rails are dangerous. Hope you're feeling better!
           Missouri interstates have those blankety blank blank cables in the center and sometimes on the sides. I can NOT imagine going into those cables with a cage much less a scoot.  Lips Sealed Well he got launched offin his scooter and landed on a cable and lost his/her head!  uglystupid2 RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2018, 02:47:38 PM »

I was seen at the clinic today, for chest X-rays, suitcher removal and a trama doctors exam.  All looks good, the doc says I'm healing better than most.  We visited Lady Val this afternoon and released her to be transported to Minneapolis for insurance evaluation.  I've supplied the claims agent with my list of 100 accessories and upgrades that I had on that bike.  It's worth your while to document such for your Valks, just in case...
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« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2018, 07:18:23 PM »

Thanks for sharing that, BobB.  Solid reminders for all.  So sorry it came at your expense, but I'm glad you're on the mend.
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« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2018, 05:49:49 AM »

Glad you're doing well Bob, I remember riding some of those road with you and eating at Slippery's.  Hope everything goes well with Jade.

Rick B
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