Just a piece of paper?

[f6john]

Trump Kim sign a denuclearization agreement. If it’s successful and North Korea really wants to be a part of the free world many of you will be able to say, I was at Inzane when it all started.

It is already being poo-pooed that nothing has really happened. But you have to start somewhere I believe. I don’t think anyone believes this is a slam dunk since there are so many bases to cover. I’m really hopeful for the North Korean people who probably don’t know what is going on.

The ball is in Kim’s hands.

[sandy]

If this agreement happens, it will be a great thing for the world. I wonder what the dems are thinking.

[¿spoom]

Listening to the feckless crunt anchor on Good Morning America run down everything from the President's trip thus far, the left would rather see the countries fail than Trump be successful to even the smallest measure in this endeavor. She babbled on at great length how horrible it was to hear Trump call Kim a "man of honor". Well, duh. It's a game. You don't call people horrible killers when you're trying to make a deal that previous decades of Presidents didn't have the stuff to go after. She's either stupid, or has an agenda that doesn't include looking at the goal rather than the ground. Judging from the past it is/was perfectly respectable for a President (or speaker of the House) to say any lie if it helped pass or present a deal to the people.

BTW, though I was raised differently, having recently learned from the left that you can call any woman you dislike politically a feckless crunt, I shall do just that, at least as long as Samantha Bee has a job at TBS.

[¿spoom]

If this agreement happens, it will be a great thing for the world. I wonder what the dems are thinking.

They are thinking "we won't get as many votes if the US does well under this President".

[¿spoom]

This is why I voted for him, because both parties are "the swamp", and it's time to stop playing games. N. Korea has a huge standing army, and an alliance (and border) with China. Did we learn nothing in the '50s "police action"?

SINGAPORE (AP) President Donald Trump on Tuesday rocked a region and suggested the upending of decades of U.S. defense posture on the Korean Peninsula when he announced that he was stopping annual U.S.-South Korean military drills and wants to remove the 28,500 U.S. troops stationed in the South as a deterrent against North Korean attack.

The stunning, almost offhand comments, made during a news conference hours after his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, contradicted countless previous declarations by U.S. political and military officials over the years that the drills are routine, defensive and absolutely crucial.

Trump has now essentially adopted the standard North Korean line, calling the military exercises a "provocative" drain of money and announcing they would stop while he continues talks with Kim, whom he repeatedly praised as a solid negotiating partner.

His statement was quickly portrayed by critics as a major, unreciprocated concession to a country that only last year was threatening Seoul and Washington with nuclear war.

It also seemed to leave officials completely off guard in South Korea, where the presence of U.S. troops has long been described as necessary to maintaining peace on the peninsula.

Seoul's presidential office told The Associated Press that it was trying to parse Trump's comments. The South Korean military seemed similarly surprised.

"At this current point, there is a need to discern the exact meaning and intent of President Trump's comments," Seoul's Defense Ministry said, adding that there have been no discussions yet with Washington on modifying drills set for August.

U.S. forces in South Korea said it has "received no updated guidance on the execution or cessation of training exercises" and will continue to coordinate with South Korean partners and maintain the current posture until it receives an updated guidance from the Department of Defense or the Indo-Pacific Command.

Trump's comments will be questioned by many in South Korea and beyond, with some seeing in them an effort by North Korea to drive a wedge between Seoul and Washington.

North Korea regularly calls the military exercises provocative preparations for a northward invasion, and many of the scariest standoffs in recent years on the Korean Peninsula have happened when the drills were being staged. Outside analysts believe the North objects to the drills because it must spend precious resources on its own war games and troop movements. North Korea also insists that the U.S. troop presence in the South, as well as its nuclear "umbrella" over allies Seoul and Tokyo, are part of America's "hostile" policy toward the North.

"I want to bring our soldiers back home," Trump said, although he added that it's "not part of the equation right now." Then he said: "We will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money unless and until we see the future negotiation is not going along like it should. But we'll be saving a tremendous amount of money. Plus, I think it's very provocative."

The comments could fundamentally change the way the United States, whose alliance with Seoul was forged after a 1950 surprise attack by the North started the Korean War, operates in South Korea.

Trump's announcement that the U.S. would stop military exercises, his description of those drills as "provocative" and his suggestion that he wants to pull U.S. troops out at some point are "all things that Trump is putting on the table as concessions, all in exchange for some vague promises by the North Koreans," said Paul Haenle, a former China director at the White House National Security Council in the Barack Obama and George W. Bush administrations.

Annual military drills between Washington and Seoul have been a major source of contention between the Koreas for years, and analysts have wondered whether their continuation would hurt the inter-Korean detente that, since an outreach by Kim in January, has replaced last year's insults and threats of war. North Korea last month broke off a high-level meeting with Seoul over South Korea's participation in a two-week military exercise with the United States.

North Korea's state media, referring to the drills, recently demanded that Washington "stop the acts of threatening its dialogue partner by force."

Since the 1970s, the United States and South Korea have held a major summertime exercise called Ulchi Freedom Guardian that involves tens of thousands of troops. There are also annual springtime drills. Drills called Team Spirit, one of the largest annual military maneuvers in the world at the time, were held from 1976 until 1993, when, after North Korea agreed to dismantle its existing nuclear facilities, the exercises were canceled and have not been held since.

Moon Seong Mook, a former South Korean military official, said Trump's comments on the drills confirmed what many in South Korea had feared all along that North Korea would attempt to drive a wedge between Washington and Seoul and gain substantial concessions from an unconventional U.S. president who thinks much less of the traditional alliance than his predecessors.

"The core of the U.S.-South Korea alliance is the U.S. troops stationed in South Korea and the joint U.S.-South Korea military drills, but the American military presence in South Korea wouldn't mean much if the militaries don't practice through joint drills," said Moon, now a senior analyst for the Seoul-based Korea Research Institute for National Strategy. "I am concerned that the summit between Trump and Kim will prove to be a setback in the global efforts to denuclearize North Korea and also introduce instability in the alliance between Seoul and Washington."

 

[..]

A NYT editorial person claimed "It's just to distract us from the Russian collusion".

What have some been drinking???

[bscrive]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

[Tx Bohemian]

This morning as I was drinking my coffee and watching the best news show ever, "Fox and Friends" (threw that in to rile up the lefties) I decided to turn to CNN and see what kinda spin they have on this North Korea deal.

Sure enough, the first thing I heard was "...what Trump failed to include in this was..."

That was all I could stomach, I had to get back to Ainsley and those two guys.

[¿spoom]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!!  

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

Those aren't Trumps views, those are what you believe. (Great and bad aren't really opposites, either.) One could argue that China for example, is both great and bad.

[Wizzard]

Besides,, Trump would not classify them as bad countries,, he classifies them as "bad deals".
Bad countries to him are "shitholes"
 

[Gavin_Sons]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter. 

[¿spoom]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter. 

Ouch, not helping.

[Gavin_Sons]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter. 

Ouch, not helping.

Just saying, He spends so much time trying to bash Trump he is missing what is going on in his own country. I'd be more worried about Treaudo or whatever his name is than i would be about Trump.

[..]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

The art of "diplomacy" sometimes means talking outta both sides of your mouth.

The other side also knows this.

[..]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

You're trying to do a deal with someone so YOU walk up to them and call them a disgusting, maniacal, murdering bastard.

 How do you think the deal making will go?

[bscrive]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter. 

Ouch, not helping.

Just saying, He spends so much time trying to bash Trump he is missing what is going on in his own country. I'd be more worried about Treaudo or whatever his name is than i would be about Trump.

What you don't seem to understand is that what ever Trump does has a direct effect to us Canadians.  The US is the Elephant in the room.  When it moves, so does everything else in the room.  You need to get out of your bubble and see that what Trump does also effects the whole world.  When that happens, the rebound will then effect the average American.
I worry about what Trudeau does as well and do what I can, but Canada does not have the effect on the world like the US does.
Most people seem to be only looking at the here and now and not what will happen down the road.  Cause and effect.

[f6john]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!!  

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter.  

Ouch, not helping.

Just saying, He spends so much time trying to bash Trump he is missing what is going on in his own country. I'd be more worried about Treaudo or whatever his name is than i would be about Trump.

What you don't seem to understand is that what ever Trump does has a direct effect to us Canadians.  The US is the Elephant in the room.  When it moves, so does everything else in the room.  You need to get out of your bubble and see that what Trump does also effects the whole world.  When that happens, the rebound will then effect the average American.
I worry about what Trudeau does as well and do what I can, but Canada does not have the effect on the world like the US does.
Most people seem to be only looking at the here and now and not what will happen down the road.  Cause and effect.

All I can say is AMERICA FIRST!!!   The elephant in the room is tired of everyone’s peanuts. Just 500 and some odd days ago I was seriously concerned about our direction but I didn’t hear one word of concern from the G7. As far as I’m concerned, based on the first 500 days of performance, Canada and the rest of the world needs to buckle up.

[Karen]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!! 

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter. 

Ouch, not helping.

Just saying, He spends so much time trying to bash Trump he is missing what is going on in his own country. I'd be more worried about Treaudo or whatever his name is than i would be about Trump.

What you don't seem to understand is that what ever Trump does has a direct effect to us Canadians.  The US is the Elephant in the room.  When it moves, so does everything else in the room.  You need to get out of your bubble and see that what Trump does also effects the whole world.  When that happens, the rebound will then effect the average American.
I worry about what Trudeau does as well and do what I can, but Canada does not have the effect on the world like the US does.
Most people seem to be only looking at the here and now and not what will happen down the road.  Cause and effect.

And you don't know what he knows, or have access to the same information that he does, so in acknowledgement of your ignorance of the facts in this situation, as opposed to your feelings, please have the decency to give peace a chance, and wait to see what really happens down the road. The sky is not falling. Yet. It could. But it probably won't...

[¿spoom]

Yep, Dictator Kim, whom has killed thousands of his own people, is called a 'man of honor' by Trump and the country next door to him, who has always been there for you, is being called a 'security threat' and the PM, even though I don't care for him, 'very dishonest and weak'.

Really people, give your head a shake.  There is something wrong here!!!  

In Trumps views:
Great countries
China
Russia
North Korea

Bad countries
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
Japan.....

and your canadian opinion does not matter.  

Ouch, not helping.

Just saying, He spends so much time trying to bash Trump he is missing what is going on in his own country. I'd be more worried about Treaudo or whatever his name is than i would be about Trump.

What you don't seem to understand is that what ever Trump does has a direct effect to us Canadians.  The US is the Elephant in the room.  When it moves, so does everything else in the room.  You need to get out of your bubble and see that what Trump does also effects the whole world.  When that happens, the rebound will then effect the average American.
I worry about what Trudeau does as well and do what I can, but Canada does not have the effect on the world like the US does.
Most people seem to be only looking at the here and now and not what will happen down the road.  Cause and effect.

What you don't seem to understand is that there's a difference between "I don't understand" and "I don't agree". You seem more than most to insist that those who don't agree with you are simply ignorant and must be educated. The US is often the Elephant paying for the room, and defending the room, and being mocked by ungrateful people unwilling to pay for their own rooms. How much Canada is affected by Trump is also dependent on the actual current taxes & tariffs, and of course your PM's actions. I does take two to argue, fight, hug, etc. Now, picture your feelings if I claimed you didn't understand all that.  

FWIW;

SINGAPORE (AP) President Donald Trump said Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau "learned" from the mistake of criticizing him, and it's going to cost Canada "a lot of money."

At a news conference Tuesday after his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, Trump recounted his recent tough exchanges with Trudeau. He said the Canadian leader must not have realized that Trump had televisions on Air Force One, allowing him to monitor Trudeau's news conference at the end of the G-7 summit.

"He learned. That's going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He learned," Trump said wagging his finger. "You can't do that. You can't do that."

The president said he was annoyed by Trudeau's comments about not letting Canada get pushed around.

"I see the television that he's giving a news conference about how he will not be pushed around by the United States. And I say, push him around? We just shook hands. It was very friendly," Trump said.

Trump said he had a "good relationship with Justin. I really did."

But Trump called Trudeau "dishonest" and "weak" in tweets following the summit on Saturday. Trump advisers also took up the attack in appearances on Sunday's news shows, leveling more withering and unprecedented criticism against Trudeau, branding him a back-stabber unworthy of Trump's time. "There's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door," Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro said on "Fox News Sunday."

When asked about Trump's remarks in Parliament on Tuesday, Trudeau said he supports Trump's efforts on North Korea and looks forward to the details of that agreement.

"On his comments I'm going to stay focused on defending jobs for Canadians and supporting Canadian industries," Trudeau said before walking away from reporters.

The president also commented at the news conference on the viral photo taken of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and others standing before him. Trump said it was snapped as they waited for changes he'd requested to the communique he ended up pulling out of.

Trump said it "didn't look friendly" but it was "very friendly."

[solo1]

Interesting.  I'm a Korean War Vet (1952-1953) and I don't pretend to know all of the answers.

I do know that our Army is stretched mighty thin, I do know that there are over 7,000 artillery pieces pointed at Seoul from 10 miles away in North Korea. I do know that South Korea has flourished since the Truce while North Korea citizens, under that arsehole, have a bad life. I also know that quite a few lives have been lost since the Truceby North Koreans killing our defense troops. `I know that Kim can't be trusted and I believe that Trump knows that too.

I also know that Obama lied spectacularly about just about everything while Trump can't lie about what his feelings are toward Kim without getting flack from everybody because he's not a smooth talker like the previous president.  The media and some here are really jumping to conclusions when they know nothing about what's happening.

If Trump can get a tough deal involving witnessing the destruction of nuclear devices and a stable North Korea, he will have accomplished something that no president has ever done. If it takes  rough edges and pissing everyone off, so be it!

Let's see what happens (as if we have a choice) At any rate, Trump might be crude but he gets the job done.  

[solo1]

Gee, it's hard for me to read posts in red. To me, it's almost like capital letters (shouting) A quote would do the same job, IMHO.

[Wizzard]

I am with you Wayne,, very hard to read the red.

[f6john]

Some use yellow, and on my white background it is almost invisible.

[¿spoom]

Gee, it's hard for me to read posts in red. To me, it's almost like capital letters (shouting) A quote would do the same job, IMHO.

I'll try to remember that, thx. On my 'puter it's against a gray background and easy to read. My only aim was to make sure I separated the article from my personal text, so I'll gladly try a different color.

[solo1]

Thank you.  Quotation marks would do just fine. BTW, blue color is the worst.

[old2soon]

I will take crude and to the point ANYTIME over platitudes and double speak and someone telling me- -what he really meant! I actually Heard what the Man said-I do NOT need it splained to me by an overpaid talking head. And I keep coming back to-I M H O-the Main focal point here-the Only sitting P O T U S EVER to have a face to face sit down with an n k dictator. The Very FACT they are face to face is cuz the little turd runnin n k KNOW'S he is incapable of bluffing Trump. I also stated in another post-not one nickel of U S of A help in anyway shape or form til we-U S of A-KNOW the nukes Indeed and Fact are GONE. Put another way-kim showed his cards and couldn't raise the bet-Trump not Only called but bumped the pot in the process.

[solo1]

No matter how much Trump is crapped on for his 'crude ways' ,he IS doing what he promised.

He ,with the Senate's approval, appointed a conservative to the SCOTUS.

Now, if he brings peace to North And South Korea that will be another promise filled.

He and Kim have agreed to bring back those killed and MIA's in the Korean War.  This is a BIG thing to us Korean War Vets who pray for this during each meeting.

So complain all that you want, those in the US, Canada, France, Germany, the lying media, and all of the Socialists in DC along with the wimpy Republicans.  I'll stick with the uncouth, non presidential, undiplomatic POTUS that we now have.  

[Savago]

In a sense, they are on the same level:

[Gavin_Sons]

In a sense, they are on the same level:

Thats a cute cartoon. Too bad there is little truth to it. What scandal? Russia? 500 and some days into it they have nothing on Trump. All that trash he is sitting on must relate to the democrats and their scandals.

[RP#62]

Those critical of the talks, do you think we should have scrambled the bombers instead?

-RP

[old2soon]

Those critical of the talks, do you think we should have scrambled the bombers instead?

-RP

                   If the hilary had been elected potus- -the missles and the bombers would already have flown.  RIDE SAFE.

[..]

In a sense, they are on the same level:

A NYT editorial person claimed "It's just to distract us from the Russian collusion".

What have some been drinking???