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Author Topic: Interesting read on the 2016 Presidential race - What and WHY  (Read 856 times)
Pete
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« on: July 09, 2018, 01:09:40 PM »

Someone sent this to me, I do not know the origin, it appears to an accurate reflection of some voters reasoning.

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"Raccoon poop   ........
 
Like many citizens, I've wondered and tried hard to understand why Trump has such a remarkable following.  (It's obvious why he probably should not!)  Then a friend sent me this raccoon story.  It makes no difference about your political leanings, this is just a good explanation of WHY... (or at least it's as good as any I can come up with).
 
If you really want to know how the majority of people feel?  And this applies to both democrats and republicans, read below, it says it all.
 
You've been on vacation for two weeks, you come home, and your basement is infested with raccoons.  Hundreds of rabid, messy, mean raccoons have overtaken your basement.  You want them gone immediately.  You call the city, 4 different exterminators, but nobody can handle the job.  But there is this one guy and he guarantees you to get rid of them, so you hire him.  You don't care if the guy smells, you don't care if the guy swears, you don't care if he's an alcoholic, you don't care how many times he's been married,  you don't care if he has a plumber's crack, you simply want those raccoons gone! You want your problem fixed!  He's the guy.  He's the best.  Period !

Here's why we want Trump, yes he's a bit of an ass, yes he's an egomaniac, but we don't care.  The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republicans and Democrats can be two-faced & gutless, and illegals are everywhere.  We want it all fixed!  We don't care that Trump is crude, we don't care that he insults people, we don't care that he has changed positions, we don't care that he's been married 3 times, we don't care that he fights with Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell, we don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslin terrorist.
 
This country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegals, we are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo, and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in; "AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED" and Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.


We're sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, Republican Party, and sick of illegals.  We just want this thing fixed. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money holding him, he doesn't have political correctness restraining him, all you know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has built a lot of things, and he's also not a politician, he's not a cowardly politician.  And he says he'll fix it.  And we believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar.  Also, we don't care if the guy has bad hair.  We just want those raccoons gone, out of our houses and lives, and RIGHT NOW!
 
 
It's high time, and the cursed raccoons have to go!!!"

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vanavyman
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 01:42:00 PM »

 cooldude  Couldn't say it better myself!!    cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 04:35:01 PM »

Right on Pete!
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 04:45:59 PM »

well if he can get rid of the squirrels too he has my vote in 2020
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 04:59:16 PM »

all true but the picture is much bigger than that...he is taking on the worlds globalist leadership...for the short version..youtube "trump the establishment"."how to be a crook by Larken Rose"..then google "the history of money and banking in the U.S." the Mises group are the good guys...then "TheMoneyMasters.com"
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 06:21:50 PM »

Seems a bit unreasonably deep and somewhat contrived.  It's almost appears a desperate attempt for someone to explain what he doesn't understand while clinging to a handful of incorrect assumptions.

Could it be as simple as a number of American voters finding that he was their preference compared to the other choice(s)?
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rocketray
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 12:16:50 AM »

well...."TrumptheEstablishment" was Mr Trumps own video explaining his campaign...maybe you should watch it....or look up the TPP--the Trans Pacific Partnership which is actually what the election was about in Mr Trumps OWN WORDS....
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 04:32:53 AM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 04:38:25 AM »

Seems a bit unreasonably deep and somewhat contrived.  It's almost appears a desperate attempt for someone to explain what he doesn't understand while clinging to a handful of incorrect assumptions.

Could it be as simple as a number of American voters finding that he was their preference compared to the other choice(s)?

I don't think so... Trump is an outlier... he's not "prefered to the other choices",
he's the smelly butt-crack dood who might get rid of the Raccoons!

"If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying."

This thread is about what makes him different from regular politicians  Wink ...

-Mike "It's high time, and the cursed raccoons have to go!!!"
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Varmintmist
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 04:59:52 AM »

Its why he won the primarys. He won the election because the other candidate was worse.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 06:44:07 AM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John

More sanctions levied at Russia than the the last admin.
Arms sent to Crimea.
Expelled 60 Russian diplomats
Admonishing the EU, specifically Germany for making us pay for their security against Russia and then buying oil from them.

Yup, sounds just like someone getting into bed with Russia.

 uglystupid2

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 09:42:54 AM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John

Doesn’t bother me one bit. Mainly because I don’t believe your assertions are correct. Trump is crazy like a fox. He met with Kim, ball is in Kim’s court, what’s to be gained by lying about a contract? Exactly which dictatorship does he like so well? You don’t like Trump, I understand but he’s got a lot of catching up to do in the moving lips, lying department on both sides of the aisle. Don’t worry, I’m confident your wrong, and I mean that in the most positive way.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 09:48:14 AM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John

More sanctions levied at Russia than the the last admin.
Arms sent to Crimea.
Expelled 60 Russian diplomats
Admonishing the EU, specifically Germany for making us pay for their security against Russia and then buying oil from them.

Yup, sounds just like someone getting into bed with Russia.

 uglystupid2



 Hmmm. Another person with a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It doesn't matter what you say Gary. They just can't believe anything President Trump says....
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 10:34:24 AM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John


More sanctions levied at Russia than the the last admin.
Arms sent to Crimea.
Expelled 60 Russian diplomats
Admonishing the EU, specifically Germany for making us pay for their security against Russia and then buying oil from them.

Yup, sounds just like someone getting into bed with Russia.

 uglystupid2




 Hmmm. Another person with a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It doesn't matter what you say Gary. They just can't believe anything President Trump says....


The TDS may have been festering for a while

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?action=profile;u=10919;sa=showPosts
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MAD6Gun
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2018, 10:41:10 AM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John


More sanctions levied at Russia than the the last admin.
Arms sent to Crimea.
Expelled 60 Russian diplomats
Admonishing the EU, specifically Germany for making us pay for their security against Russia and then buying oil from them.

Yup, sounds just like someone getting into bed with Russia.

 uglystupid2




 Hmmm. Another person with a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It doesn't matter what you say Gary. They just can't believe anything President Trump says....


The TDS may have been festering for a while

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?action=profile;u=10919;sa=showPosts


 Evidently. The TDS is strong with this one...
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2018, 01:47:02 PM »

Does it not bother any of you that he is more prone to get between the sheets with Putin, than to degrade "all" of our allies. Going into a meeting with Putin with no note takers, and expect us all to believe everything he tells us like he did with Kim. He tries to tell us they signed a contract, which was a total lie. If this guy's lips are moving, he is lying. All he wants is to be the next Supreme Leader. He likes Dictatorships more than Democracy. I certainly hope I am wrong.
John
You can rest easy, because you are wrong  cooldude

Edit: Maybe this will help you sleep better-

BRUSSELS (AP) Under fire for his warm embrace of Russia's Vladimir Putin, President Donald Trump jolted the NATO summit Wednesday by turning a spotlight on Germany's ties to Russia and openly questioning the value of the military alliance that has defined American foreign policy for decades.

Trump declared that a joint natural gas pipeline venture with Moscow has left Angela Merkel's government "totally controlled" and "captive to Russia." So, in a stroke, he shifted attention away from his own ties to the Kremlin just days before he meets one-on-one with Putin.

With scorching language, the president questioned the necessity of the alliance that formed a bulwark against Soviet aggression, tweeting after a day of contentious meetings: "What good is NATO if Germany is paying Russia billions of dollars for gas and energy?"

German Prime Minister Merkel hit back immediately, not only denying Trump's contention but suggesting that his comfortable upbringing in the U.S. gave him no standing to spout off on the world stage about Germany.

Drawing on her own background growing up in communist East Germany behind the Iron Curtain, she said:

"I've experienced myself a part of Germany controlled by the Soviet Union, and I'm very happy today that we are united in freedom as the Federal Republic of Germany and can thus say that we can determine our own policies and make our own decisions and that's very good."

Trump demanded by public tweet that members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization "must pay 2% of GDP IMMEDIATELY, not by 2025" for their military efforts. He then rattled U.S. allies further by privately suggesting member nations should spend 4 percent of their gross domestic product on the military more than even the United States currently pays, according to NATO statistics.

It was just the latest in Trump's demands and insults that critics fear will undermine a decades-old alliance launched to counter-balance Soviet aggression after World War II. And it came just days before Trump planned to sit down with Putin in Finland at the conclusion of what has become a contentious European trip.

Trump has spent weeks berating members of the alliance for failing to increase military spending, accusing Europe of freeloading off the U.S. and even raising doubts about whether he would come to members' defense as required if they were ever attacked.

Trump's tongue-lashing accelerated during a pre-summit breakfast, when he traded his usual long-distance Twitter attacks for a face-to-face confrontation with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

"We're supposed to protect you against Russia but they're paying billions of dollars to Russia and I think that's very inappropriate," Trump said, repeatedly describing Germany as "captive to Russia" because of the energy deal. He urged NATO to look into the issue.

Trump's harsh words for Merkel, whose country has hosted tens of thousands of U.S. troops that have been key to post-WWII stability in Europe for seven decades, struck at the core of the alliance. West Germany joined NATO in 1955 and was a critical factor in the alliance's success in facing down the Soviet Union until its collapse. Reunified with the East, Germany became the largest European economy in NATO in 1990.

The president's beef was with the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that would bring gas from Russia to Germany's northeastern Baltic coast, bypassing Eastern European nations like Poland and Ukraine and doubling the amount of gas Russia can send directly to Germany. The vast undersea pipeline is opposed by the U.S. and some other EU members, who warn it could give Moscow greater leverage over Western Europe. It's expected to be online at the end of 2019.

Environmental-conscious Germany is trying to reduce its reliance on coal and is phasing out nuclear power by 2022, so it hopes to use natural gas to partially fill the gap until the country's electricity grid can cope with fluctuating levels provided by renewable energy.

Hours after the breakfast, Merkel and Trump appeared to play nice as they met along the summit's sidelines. Trump told reporters the two had a "very, very good relationship" and congratulated Merkel on her "tremendous success."

While Trump went after Germany for its ties to Russia, he himself has been accused by critics of being too eager to improve relations with Moscow. He's also dismissed the U.S. intelligence community's assessment that Russia tried to undermine Western democracy by meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to help him win.

Trump also lobbed fresh complaints about allies' "delinquent" defense spending and suggested at one point that NATO allies commit to spending 4 percent of their GDP on defense twice the goal they've set for 2024.

"I have great confidence they'll be spending more," he said.

However, a formal summit declaration issued by the NATO leaders Wednesday reaffirmed their "unwavering commitment" to the 2 percent pledge set in 2014 and made no reference to any effort to go higher.

Trump has repeatedly mischaracterized the spending target, wrongly describing it as a fee that countries pay to NATO or the U.S. rather than their own military. NATO estimates that 15 members, or just over half, will meet the benchmark by 2024 based on current trends.

Back in the U.S., Democratic congressional leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer issued a joint statement describing Trump's "brazen insults and denigration of one of America's most steadfast allies, Germany," as "an embarrassment."

"His behavior this morning is another profoundly disturbing signal that the president is more loyal to President Putin than to our NATO allies," they wrote.

Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, also criticized Trump's rhetoric.

"I do believe everybody should get to 2 percent quickly, but the NATO alliance is something that's very important to the United States and our citizenry, and things that are said to try and create instability, all that it does is strengthen Putin," Corker said, describing concerns "about conciliatory things that could occur in Helsinki" when Trump sits down with the Russian president.

But Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Arkansas, a strong supporter of the president, said the pipeline issue strikes at the "heart of NATO unity."

"The pipeline gets cheap Russian gas to Germany while bypassing smaller Eastern European nations, allowing Russia to pressure them while Germany is held harmless," he tweeted, adding: "No amount of preening in Berlin will cover this nakedly selfish policy."

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