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Just finished this book , talks about over weight and diabetic , intermittent fasting to break the cycle of insulin resistance that causes obesity , or even if you are only 5 , 10 or 20 pounds over what you want to be. Keto and Paleo diets and why they work If you are into health , over weight and or diabetic , this book is for you https://www.amazon.com/Obesity-Code-Unlocking-Secrets-Weight/dp/1771641258/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535986183&sr=8-1&keywords=the+obese+codeThe writer , Jason Fung , can be found on you tube if you are not into reading . I am not saying anyone here is fat or obese 
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 If I like to go fast , does that make me a racist ???
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2018, 07:40:37 AM » |
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yep. even the human instruction book aka The Bible tells us to fast. studies show that the day after a one day fast, that testosterone levels double more than the level it was on the day before the fast. wheat and grain products should be avoided. through history they were a last resort survival food and in cold climate a wintertime survival food. they never were intended to be a daily food of the diet. https://www.wheatbellyblog.com/avoid carbs 5-7 days then eat carbs one day then back to the 5-7. https://carbnite.com/
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2018, 12:51:33 PM » |
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Yep...it's all about the carbs...and insulin resistance. If you're carrying a few pounds of fat (25% or more for males) you ARE insulin resistant... It's a mind game to fix it... 
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 01:14:38 PM » |
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Yep...it's all about the carbs...and insulin resistance. If you're carrying a few pounds of fat (25% or more for males) you ARE insulin resistant... It's a mind game to fix it...  Looks to me you’ve figured this mind game out pretty well. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2018, 01:34:29 PM » |
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The difference between Daniel and most people who want to lose weight...and what made him so successful, was his willingness to work his arse off in the gym...in addition to dietary changes. So many want to just do the diet. You’re much less likely to sit down with a big bag of Doritos if you just sweated your rear off at the gym. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2018, 03:12:13 PM » |
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Yep...it's all about the carbs...and insulin resistance. If you're carrying a few pounds of fat (25% or more for males) you ARE insulin resistant... It's a mind game to fix it...  Daniel, you've accomplished what I need/want to do. 50 lbs and a decent A1C would make me very happy... Good on you, the difference is stunning.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2018, 03:41:48 PM » |
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The difference between Daniel and most people who want to lose weight...and what made him so successful, was his willingness to work his arse off in the gym...in addition to dietary changes. So many want to just do the diet. You’re much less likely to sit down with a big bag of Doritos if you just sweated your rear off at the gym.  This is true, you've got to put in the work...but the diet IS important...you can't outwork a bad diet. Daniel, you've accomplished what I need/want to do. 50 lbs and a decent A1C would make me very happy...
Good on you, the difference is stunning.
Thanks! I've lost 197 pounds. Last A1C was 4.5 http://lifeisaroad.com/blog/stories/fitness/It's the mind game...hardest thing I've ever done...
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2018, 05:11:17 PM » |
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How does your family feel about a stranger walking around the house? That’s a dramatic change!
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2018, 05:18:08 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2018, 12:31:58 PM » |
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even the human instruction book aka The Bible tells us to fast. Although there are examples of Christ and Christians fasting, the Bible does not command Christians to fast, and fasting is never described in the context of health benefits.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2018, 01:14:37 PM » |
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even the human instruction book aka The Bible tells us to fast. Although there are examples of Christ and Christians fasting, the Bible does not command Christians to fast, and fasting is never described in the context of health benefits. where did I write the Bible commanded people to fast? u need to stop adding to peoples comments, like u have done before to scripture on occasions to others. I did not write the Bible stated health benefits. I stated modern knowledge about health benefits of fasting. The Bible does state that fasting and praying brings spiritual benefits and healing from suppressions and is recommended by Jesus who did fast. https://biblereasons.com/reasons-for-fasting/Joel 2:12 “Yet even now,” declares the Lord, “return to me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning.”
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2018, 01:23:24 PM » |
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I have not tried fasting. I’ve read a lot on the celebrities who utilize it to gain mass for movies. Hugh Jackman is a good resource for the muscle mass he had to put on at 50+ years young to play the last few wolverine movies. Next to counting macros, I think he consumed 3-5k calories in an 8 hour window for months on end with a majority being lean proteins. Most of his carbs came from fresh veggies.... that’s a lot of broccoli 
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2018, 02:06:43 PM » |
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even the human instruction book aka The Bible tells us to fast. Although there are examples of Christ and Christians fasting, the Bible does not command Christians to fast, and fasting is never described in the context of health benefits. where did I write the Bible commanded people to fast? See your words in bold above. Telling someone to do something = commanding them to do it. If I tell my kids to tidy their rooms before turning on the TV, they understand it as a command. Why do I even have to explain this? u need to stop adding to peoples comments, like u have done before to scripture on occasions to others. By "stop adding to people's comments" do you mean I need to stop responding when people misrepresent the Bible or what it means? Truth matters. I did not write the Bible stated health benefits. Okay, although that's what this thread is about: the health benefits of fasting. I stated modern knowledge about health benefits of fasting. The Bible does state that fasting and praying brings spiritual benefits and healing from suppressions and is recommended by Jesus who did fast. https://biblereasons.com/reasons-for-fasting/I'll admit I have no idea what "healing from suppressions" is. Suppression of what?
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2018, 09:18:01 AM » |
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Mmmm...also...biblical fitness advice notwithstanding...fasting doesn't have to be anything spectacular...
It basically is to shift your body to burn fat...and combined with exercise is remarkably effective...as in...don't eat after 6pm, and workout in the early morning in a fasted state (water/coffee is fine)...and eat a quality meal with lots of protein afterward (instead of the crap carbs we've been trained to eat)...
There's a lot of science to actually losing significant weight, and shifting to a life that will keep it off....but it doesn't have to be over-complicated.
Over-complication is what we humans do in order to provide an excuse for NOT doing something.
The head-game is the most difficult part.
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