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Started by 98valk, Thu 13, Sep 2018, 16:19:07

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98valk

and notice how the main news media is quite on this

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-victims-added-detroit-area-genital-mutilation-case-160805317.html

Federal prosecutors have added three Illinois girls as victims in a criminal case against Detroit-area doctors accused of female genital mutilation.

The disclosure was made Wednesday in an updated indictment against Dr. Jumana Nagarwala and others.

The government is accusing Nagarwala of performing genital mutilation on nine girls at a Livonia clinic. She denies any crime and says she performed a religious custom on girls from her Muslim sect, the Dawoodi Bohra.

The government says the victims were three girls from Illinois, four from Michigan and two from Minnesota . Eight people have been charged in the case.

The initial charges were filed in April 2017. A trial is scheduled for January.
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Jess from VA

#1
You know what the punishment should be for this right?

The eighth amendment prevents it.  (Cruel and unusual punishment)

If this was legal under some 1st Amend. free exercise of religion exception grounds (it's not), then the guilty should be subject to equally medieval punishment under a religious exception to the Eight Amendment.  

They wouldn't have to go all the way through the chipper, just part of them.  Fair is fair.

Edit:   And another thing.  Any person doing (or in any way assisting) with this barbarity should lose their medical license or certification for life.  (Business licenses too)

Custodial parents should also be prosecuted fully as accessories or principles to the crime, and reckless endangerment of minors, and put through the full CPS wringer (including termination of parental rights).  




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Quote from: Jess from VA on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 16:51:05
You know what the punishment should be for this right?

The eighth amendment prevents it.  (Cruel and unusual punishment)

If this was legal under some 1st Amend. free exercise of religion exception grounds (it's not), then the guilty should be subject to equally medieval punishment under a religious exception to the Eight Amendment.  

They wouldn't have to go all the way through the chipper, just part of them.  Fair is fair.

Edit:   And another thing.  Any person doing (or in any way assisting) with this barbarity should lose their medical license or certification for life.  (Business licenses too)

Custodial parents should also be prosecuted fully as accessories or principles to the crime, and reckless endangerment of minors, and put through the full CPS wringer (including termination of parental rights).  




and then we kill them, right?

Patrick

There wasn't much to the article, but, I agree that the parents should be held accountable and not be any longer allowed to be parents.

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           I just happened to tune in this A M to C B N-Christian Broadcasting Network-and the experiment in Sweden appears to be not going well at all. In a nut shell Sweden told the mooslims if you don't wanna assimilate keep yer religion and yer beliefs. And young women old/older women are being raped and in some cases murdered. And carrying pepper spray or tasers is illegal in Sweden. And it IS already happening here. And like here and in Sweden if you call the mooslims on it You ARE The Racist. Yeah-right. RIDE SAFE.
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98valk

Quote from: old2soon on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:27:50
           I just happened to tune in this A M to C B N-Christian Broadcasting Network-and the experiment in Sweden appears to be not going well at all. In a nut shell Sweden told the mooslims if you don't wanna assimilate keep yer religion and yer beliefs. And young women old/older women are being raped and in some cases murdered. And carrying pepper spray or tasers is illegal in Sweden. And it IS already happening here. And like here and in Sweden if you call the mooslims on it You ARE The Racist. Yeah-right. RIDE SAFE.

they're demon book tells them to conquer the world not to assimilate.

In 1786, while serving as an Ambassador for the new United States, Jefferson asked Tripoli's Ambassador to Great Britain what right the Barbary states had that allowed them to kidnap and slaughter the innocent crews of passing merchant ships.

According to Jefferson, Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja replied that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Qur'an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise."

In essence, the Ambassador from Tripoli stated that their religion, Islam, gave them the right to kidnap and murder and enslave those who held different beliefs.  Jefferson took this information to heart and remembered it well.  He also spent time studying the Koran himself, to gain a better understanding of the enemy his young nation was facing.

In 1801, when Jefferson was president, the Pasha of Tripoli suddenly demanded a massive payment from the United States, along with an increased annual tribute, in order to secure safe passage for American ships through the Mediterranean.

Jefferson refused the demands of the Pasha, and instead of sending more money and acquiescing to the angry and demanding Muslims, he sent naval warships bearing the newly created U.S. Marine Corps.

This was the first war by the American nation on foreign soil, and is where the line "to the shores of Tripoli" in the Marine Corps hymn comes from.  It is also believed that the term "Leathernecks," which refers to Marines, comes from the thick leather neck coverings that the Marines wore to protect themselves from being beheaded by the giant swords wielded by the Barbary pirates.

Thomas Jefferson showed how a U.S. president should respond to threats from radical Islamists, and that is by confronting and defeating them. 
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/jeffersons-response-to-islam/
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bscrive

They should all be shot and then pissed on. 



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Willow

Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:44:23
... newly created U.S. Marine Corps.  ...

Might want to catch up on your facts.  The U.S. Marine Corps was formed in 1775.
 

98valk

Quote from: Patrick on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:11:02
There wasn't much to the article, but, I agree that the parents should be held accountable and not be any longer allowed to be parents.

more info
https://gellerreport.com/2018/09/michigan-fgm-vicitms.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:22:43
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:44:23
... newly created U.S. Marine Corps.  ...

Might want to catch up on your facts.  The U.S. Marine Corps was formed in 1775.
 

In Europe they say 250 miles is a long distance, in the USA we say 250 years is a long time.

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Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:22:43
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:44:23
... newly created U.S. Marine Corps.  ...

Might want to catch up on your facts.  The U.S. Marine Corps was formed in 1775.
 


it doesn't state otherwise. it only stated first used on foreign soil in 1801.
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carolinarider09

What 98Valk said is correct about the religion known to us as Islam.  It would do us all well to learn more about Islam, what it stands for, what their belief system is, their history, and their goals.


Willow

Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:34:25
Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:22:43
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:44:23
... newly created U.S. Marine Corps.  ...

Might want to catch up on your facts.  The U.S. Marine Corps was formed in 1775.  
it doesn't state otherwise. it only stated first used on foreign soil in 1801.

Soil is the key word.  The Marines through the Revolutionary War were used as hand to hand defense and boarders on the ships.  Newly created?  The Marine Corps in 1801 was not as newly created as the U.S. Army.


98valk

Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 20:13:42
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:34:25
Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:22:43
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:44:23
... newly created U.S. Marine Corps.  ...

Might want to catch up on your facts.  The U.S. Marine Corps was formed in 1775.  
it doesn't state otherwise. it only stated first used on foreign soil in 1801.

Soil is the key word.  The Marines through the Revolutionary War were used as hand to hand defense and boarders on the ships.  Newly created?  The Marine Corps in 1801 was not as newly created as the U.S. Army.



I understand and I knew the beginning yr and about Jefferson and tripoli read about it yrs ago. sad the article thinks 26 yrs is recent.  I tend to remember it was actually only about 10 Marines and the rest about 500 were mercenaries. is that correct?
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3fan4life

Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 20:13:42
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:34:25
Quote from: Willow on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 19:22:43
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 18:44:23
... newly created U.S. Marine Corps.  ...

Might want to catch up on your facts.  The U.S. Marine Corps was formed in 1775.  
it doesn't state otherwise. it only stated first used on foreign soil in 1801.

Soil is the key word.  The Marines through the Revolutionary War were used as hand to hand defense and boarders on the ships.  Newly created?  The Marine Corps in 1801 was not as newly created as the U.S. Army.



I think that you may have misspoke:




The U.S. Army was founded on June 14, 1775, when the Continental Congress authorized enlistment of riflemen to serve the United Colonies for one year.

The United States Marine Corps Birthday is celebrated every year on 10 November with a traditional ball and cake-cutting ceremony. On that day in 1775, the Continental Marines were established.
1 Corinthians 1:18


The emperor has no clothes

Looks like I'll have to add the U.S. Navy was formed on Oct. 13, 1775

Willow

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Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 20:26:53
I understand and I knew the beginning yr and about Jefferson and tripoli read about it yrs ago. sad the article thinks 26 yrs is recent.  I tend to remember it was actually only about 10 Marines and the rest about 500 were mercenaries. is that correct?

Eight Marines under Lt. Presley O'bannon.

I stand corrected on several points.  Yes, the Army was born before the USMC.

Also, Congress, believing we had no need for standing military forces disbanded the Navy, Marine Corps, and Army after the Revolutionay War ended.  The Navy and Marine Corps were again authorized in 1797 and 1798 in preparation for war with France.

It was not improper for the copied article to refer to either the Marine Corps or Navy as newly created although newly recreated would have been more accurate.

:-[

98valk

Quote from: Willow on Fri 14, Sep 2018, 08:52:12
Quote from: 98valk, (aka CA) on Thu 13, Sep 2018, 20:26:53
I understand and I knew the beginning yr and about Jefferson and tripoli read about it yrs ago. sad the article thinks 26 yrs is recent.  I tend to remember it was actually only about 10 Marines and the rest about 500 were mercenaries. is that correct?

Eight Marines under Lt. Presley O'bannon.

I stand corrected on several points.  Yes, the Army was born before the USMC.

Also, Congress, believing we had no need for standing military forces disbanded the Navy, Marine Corps, and Army after the Revolutionay War ended.  The Navy and Marine Corps were again authorized in 1797 and 1798 in preparation for war with France.

It was not improper for the copied article to refer to either the Marine Corps or Navy as newly created although newly recreated would have been more accurate.

:-[

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