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ZDDP Zinc Additive

Started by Alberta Patriot, Sat 10, Nov 2018, 12:06:02

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Alberta Patriot

Been reading articles about adding ZDDP additive to older engines for extra protection, because of EPA mandated reduction of Zinc in modern oils to protect Cat Converters. Any harm in doing so??
Say what you mean, Mean what you say.

Pete

Harm? Not if you do not add to much.
It does make clean up on engine rebuild more of a job as it leaves a deposit on the inner surfaces.

Alberta Patriot

Quote from: Pete on Sat 10, Nov 2018, 12:17:27
Harm? Not if you do not add to much.
It does make clean up on engine rebuild more of a job as it leaves a deposit on the inner surfaces.
Think I'll be too old to ride by the time my engine needs a rebuild. :)
I am however concerned about added wear to the Transmission because of less Zinc in the oil.
Say what you mean, Mean what you say.

Robert

Quote from: 7th_son on Sat 10, Nov 2018, 12:27:36

I am however concerned about added wear to the Transmission because of less Zinc in the oil.

You will probably be to old for the trans also, so I would not put in the zinc additive. There are other additives in the oil that will keep it good enough for the transmission. Not to mention the bikes were designed to run on dino oil so by the use of synthetics you already are ahead of the game.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

98valk

as mentioned too much causes all kinds of problems.

some diesel oils are still maintaining enough phosphorus and zinc.  see my post and check out
http://pqiamerica.com/HDEO_Sample_Summary_Dec_2016.html

as last tested NAPA and supertech are still high as are some others.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Mr Whiskey

Have run 4oz's every oil change for years. Smooths those "clunky" square cut gear changes right out. That's why I run it, Wing never shifts as smooth without it. Did a couple of oil changes & waited a day to add it (jus' as an experiment), makes a noticeable difference to me immediately.
Tried the stuff Eastwood sells & didn't care for it much so went back to the original. These days you're lucky if you can find it for +/- $10 so this isn't a bad deal on it...
https://www.amazon.com/ZDDPPlus-Engine-Additive-Phosphorus-Bottle/dp/B006LBAAD4/ref=lp_15987186011_1_1?srs=15987186011&ie=UTF8&qid=1541894646&sr=8-1
P.S. Thanks for reminding me, down to last bottle gotta order :cooldude:

   
Peace, Whiskey.

98valk

Quote from: Mr Whiskey on Sat 10, Nov 2018, 17:33:53
Have run 4oz's every oil change for years. Smooths those "clunky" square cut gear changes right out. That's why I run it, Wing never shifts as smooth without it. Did a couple of oil changes & waited a day to add it (jus' as an experiment), makes a noticeable difference to me immediately.
Tried the stuff Eastwood sells & didn't care for it much so went back to the original. These days you're lucky if you can find it for +/- $10 so this isn't a bad deal on it...
https://www.amazon.com/ZDDPPlus-Engine-Additive-Phosphorus-Bottle/dp/B006LBAAD4/ref=lp_15987186011_1_1?srs=15987186011&ie=UTF8&qid=1541894646&sr=8-1
P.S. Thanks for reminding me, down to last bottle gotta order :cooldude:

   

I think u meant "Straight cut gears".   what oil do u use?
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Mr Whiskey

Tomato/tamato... :2funny:
Rosmella T6 :cooldude:
Peace, Whiskey.

Quasi (fmr. GHSTDG)


¿spoom

What does zinc do to the clutch plates? Just curious, I have no idea.

Pete

Zinc being an anti wear additive it attaches itself to metal and resist wear.
It does not add a slick surface like moly does I have never known it to affect clutch material.
It will coat the metal surfaces of the plates and retard wear as the plates (tips) move in the basket