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NO more hysterics for the left and for the government carbon tax and such since a major math mistake was discovered. I seriously doubt its all an accident and there was no malice involved or stealing trillions of dollars on the wrong math. Its Trump that stopped the Paris talks and the money that was going for nothing at these talks. This information would never have come out. I think Gore should be in jail, if not for the climate change fallacy then for undermining the talks with other governments that he was not authorized to do. I am amazed at the corrupt game that was played by some in positions of power to push an agenda and base taxes, fines, laws on flawed study. Accident maybe but I seriously doubt it. Not to mention the damage done to those suspecting the truth by reason belittled by the fine Americans. https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/scientists-mistakes-global-warming/ Scientists behind a headline-grabbing climate study admitted they “really muffed” their paper. Their study claimed to find 60 percent more warming in the oceans, but that was based on math errors. The errors were initially spotted by scientist Nic Lewis, who called them “serious (but surely inadvertent) errors.” The scientists behind a headline-grabbing global warming study did something that seems all too rare these days — they admitted to making mistakes and thanked the researcher, a global warming skeptic, who pointed them out. “When we were confronted with his insight it became immediately clear there was an issue there,” study co-author Ralph Keeling told The San Diego Union-Tribune on Tuesday. |
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If they ever find that extra ocean heat, please send it our way. We are now in week six of a major, major cold spell where temps are consistently 10 to 25 degrees below norm for this year, and there is no end in sight.
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1) This news won't matter to the warmists because their beliefs are faith-based not actual science-based
2) Remember when the media/dems wanted to go after the president elect for violations of the Logan act (a technicality because he wasn't actually president yet) but when Gore and Kerry (who weren't even in the government at the time) actually violated the act, there were crickets.
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Since when do facts matter when carbon taxes can be had by guilting the population into submission.
Here in Canada(Russia Too) we have vast boreal forests that absorb more CO2 than our industry and transportation produce...Effectively Canada is a Carbon Sink!!!
No Matter...Trudeau Forced the Provinces to implement Carbon Taxes or a Federal Alternative would be foisted on non-compliant Provinces. He is hell bent on saving the world by making Canada uncompetitive on the global stage...China is laughing at us.
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You are speaking to the choir. The Warmists have another vision...a Burning(CO2) Bush so to speak. Go against them and their convoluted vision and you are labeled a heretic, a denier of truth...their truth. They have their phoney 97% consensus as proof. "If it is Consensus it is not Science. If it is Science it is not Consensusus"...Michael Crichton |
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You are speaking to the choir. The Warmists have another vision...a Burning(CO2) Bush so to speak. Go against them and their convoluted vision and you are labeled a heretic, a denier of truth...their truth. They have their phoney 97% consensus as proof. "If it is Consensus it is not Science. If it is Science it is not Consensusus"...Michael CrichtonSpeaking of Michael, read his book "State of Fear". Very interesting. |
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The scientific analysis of Climate Change that had the "major math error" was corrected with "Common Core" math and now it has been proven, without a doubt, that the Earth is 4X hotter than the Sun. "Common Core" solution-- NASA sends Polar Bears to Sun ice caps.
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Hmmm, I've been out of school for quite some time. Does common core math equal the old new math ? Yep...it was devised by the early texting generation who used shortcuts to replace our language. It worked for language...why not for math ....ROTFLMAO The next step will be shirts with 25 slots up front to carry lollypop style Emoji's for common core personal communication.  The deft of hand will win all arguments...the elites will have caddys. |
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I guess the 97 percent of scientists are all on the take.
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I guess the 97 percent of scientists are all on the take.
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It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a scientific consensus. Don’t look now, but maybe a scientific consensus exists concerning global warming after all. Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem. The survey results show geoscientists (also known as earth scientists) and engineers hold similar views as meteorologists. Two recent surveys of meteorologists (summarized here and here) revealed similar skepticism of alarmist global warming claims. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#b646a8a4c7c2 |
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You sound kinda' angry. First off that 97% scientific consensus is a crock. A Very significant number are not "scientists", but indoctrinated undergraduate students and many people who would like their names removed from that phoney list. The Daily Caller has a lot more truth than CNN and MSNBC combined. Have a good look here at the video...climate fact from historical records rather than BS computer model speculation that goes off the rails after only a few years into the future. Reality...the big bright nuclear ball in the sky has solar cycles that generates most of the earth's warming and cooling...PERIOD. Again...Please watch this video before any further comments!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLuzBAy21A |
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If "97% of the scientists" base their conclusions on the same faulty data... well, you do the math. |
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However, the conclusion came under scrutiny after mathematician Nic Lewis, a critic of the scientific consensus around human-induced warming, posted a critique of the paper on the blog of Judith Curry, another well-known critic. “The findings of the ... paper were peer reviewed and published in the world’s premier scientific journal and were given wide coverage in the English-speaking media,” Lewis wrote. “Despite this, a quick review of the first page of the paper was sufficient to raise doubts as to the accuracy of its results.”
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took full blame and thanked Lewis for alerting him to the mistake.No one denies the bias, but being right is not wrong but denying the facts well what would you call that? I would think the Scripps Institution would be enough to satisfy skeptics. The problem is in being left they will not report the truth, especially fake news. Here also is another clip of another article https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-climate-study-error-20181113-story.htmlResearchers with UC San Diego’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography and Princeton University recently walked back scientific findings published last month that showed oceans have been heating up dramatically faster than previously thought as a result of climate change. |
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Mini Ice Age' Looms As NASA Scientist Warns Lack Of Sunspots Could Bring Record Cold The sun is entering one of the deepest Solar Minima of the Space Age,” wrote Dr. Tony Phillips just six weeks ago, on September 27, 2018. The lack of sunspots on our sun could bring about record cold temperatures, and perhaps even a mini ice age. Our sun was not expected to head into a solar minimum until around 2020, but it appears to be heading in that direction a little early which could prove to be bad news for warm weather lovers. “It could happen in a matter of months,” says Martin Mlynczak of NASA’s Langley Research Center on the cold snap that may be coming. “If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold,” says Mlynczak. “We’re not there quite yet,” he said. However, “months” is not all that far away. Data from NASA’s TIMED (Thermosphere Ionosphere Mesosphere Energetics and Dynamics) satellite shows that the thermosphere (the uppermost layer of air around our planet) is cooling and shrinking, literally decreasing the radius of the atmosphere. This reduction of solar activity could result in a global cooling phase. “The thermosphere always cools off during Solar Minimum. It’s one of the most important ways the solar cycle affects our planet,” said Mlynczak, according to The New American. ScienceAtNASA ScienceCasts: Solar Minimum is Coming https://youtu.be/kBKJkU06ICQ |
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Global warming has always been a crock. They make crap up so that they can make money off it.
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Global warming has always been a crock. They make crap up so that they can make money off it.
The world always has and always will go in cycles, so the temps will always fluctuate.
exactly what we were all taught in school, including man cannot control the weather. problem is the last two generations have been taught that man does control the weather by his actions. |
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Any "Intergovernmental Panel" (IPCC) that collaborates with the UN should set off alarm bells in any conservative person. To Progressives the trigger word "Intergovernmental" means...we want it...we need it...gotta have it>>>here's my wallet, take what you need.
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Did you even bother to read the link? Crickets. No surprise. too many cannot handle the truth today, for that would require them to swallow their super ego and admit they are wrong. people even destroy their families by not admitting they were wrong and moving forward and learning/growing. the father people get from God the dumber they become, because God will let you be stupid if the person wants to. |
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Did you even bother to read the link? Crickets. No surprise. too many cannot handle the truth today, for that would require them to swallow their super ego and admit they are wrong. people even destroy their families by not admitting they were wrong and moving forward and learning/growing. the father people get from God the dumber they become, because God will let you be stupid if the person wants to. Kinda like Paul explained the apostasy from the truth in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 Different time, but same principal. |
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Did you even bother to read the link? Crickets. No surprise. too many cannot handle the truth today, for that would require them to swallow their super ego and admit they are wrong. people even destroy their families by not admitting they were wrong and moving forward and learning/growing. the father people get from God the dumber they become, because God will let you be stupid if the person wants to. Kinda like Paul explained the apostasy from the truth in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 Different time, but same principal. |
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John, you should really look into the is statement about the 97%. There was a survey done that was sent out to a bunch of scientist type folks. The guy who sent it out the trimmed those that didn't really believe that there was a Man caused warming taking place, and also those who didn't believe it was a real problem. That is how there was a 97% agreement. This false survey was used by our former president a lot. even after it was proved wrong. Most that responded said they believe in Global Warming, as the temp of the earth has been warming from the last Ice Age, which ended according to most, around the middle 1800's. What they didn't agree was that man was responsible for this warming. Personally I like it a bit warmer than it was during the Ice Age. |
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As if the blows to climate change from the studies were not enough now we have what Trump and the US citizen already knew but O did not. WE GAVE THE PARIS ACCORD ONE BILLION DOLLARS AND OWED 2 BILLION MORE. TRUMP STOPPED IT. I dont remember one report that one billion dollars was transferred to the Paris Accord. UN Environment Chief Resigns After Racking Up Huge Carbon Footprint https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-21/un-environment-chief-resigns-after-racking-huge-air-travel-billMembers of the United Nations recoiled in horror last year when President Trump slashed the US's UN budget by nearly $300 million after the international agency rebuked the US over its decision to move its embassy to Jerusalem. Looks like the jokes on them. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has accepted the resignation of UN Environmental Chief Erik Solheim, a veteran Norwegian diplomat, after an internal audit by the UN Office of Internal Oversight Services criticized the environment agency for "a culture of scant regard for internal controls and existing rules" on the use of public funds. At issue in particular were his frequent trips to Paris and Oslo. The audit found that Mr. Solheim, referred to in the audit as “a senior manager,” had spent 79 percent of his time away from the agency’s headquarters in Nairobi and incurred $488,519 in travel expenses over a 22-month period. Most of the rerouted trips to the two cities were made prior to or during weekends or public holidays,” the audit found. ** Cancún climate agreements at a glance A breakdown of the main terms of the deal reached at the UN climate summit in Cancún, Mexico A new climate green fund was agreed at Cancún to transfer money from the developed to developing world to tackle the impacts of climate change. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/dec/13/cancun-climate-agreement** Barack Obama transfers $500m to Green Climate Fund in attempt to protect Paris deal New instalment leaves $2bn owing, with Donald Trump expected to cease any further payments The US committed to transferring $3bn to the fund. The new installment leaves $2bn owing, with the incoming president, Donald Trump, expected to cease any further payments. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/18/barack-obama-transfers-500m-to-green-climate-fund-in-attempt-to-protect-paris-deal |
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