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« on: November 21, 2018, 05:08:43 PM » |
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Anyone have any experience with this side by side? My interest in them is peaked because there is one for sale near me. Picture for reference 
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2018, 06:30:56 PM » |
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Kinda looks like a suzuki samurai. If I was in the side by side market I would try to find a nice used samurai instead of one of the high dollar side by sides.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2018, 07:33:00 PM » |
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I never understood the craze last few years of UTV sales over ATV sales. Most (not all) are slower, bigger, harder to turn around than a ATV, but then again, they are probably smoother, more comfy, and more like a car like ride if into that. Both have their pros and cons. Have met a few LARGE UTV's on the trails here in WI and personally, IMO, on the tight trails meeting one of these 60 inch or so wide or wider on 95% of trails is hardly safe without me on my ATV going OFF the trail when meeting an oncoming UTV. The trend to UTVs has skyrocketed and the state of WI needs to make most of the trails much wider to accomodate these wider machines. back on topic, have heard of these machines but since dealer network nowhere in the midwest near me, I would stick with yamaha or polaris or can am UTV's USED there are GREAT deals to be had on craigslists all the time gently used ones under 10 grand in near new condition. If I was in the market for a 6 seater large UTV, this yamaha viking very reasonably priced would be at the top of my list to buy: https://madison.craigslist.org/snw/d/2015-yamaha-viking-6-seater/6752443325.htmlIf going large, the Viking by yamaha trumps the polaris ranger for size but nothing wrong with Polaris and Can Am either, all are good. maybe when I get older into my 60's I might think otherwise about LARGE UTV''s, but right now, they are too expensive, too big, and too cumbersome for my needs to be much good for anything for my own needs. Sometimes my Can Am Max 2-up ATV's being near 4 feet wide as normal is fine but the 8 foot length has at times made it harder to turn around on the not so wide of trails. That said, the longer wheelbase and able to seat 2 passengers with the best comfort of any 2-up ATV with the most power/fun factor, suits my needs as of now. I have let the wife drive my 800cc with me on the back seat, and it sits up very high able to see all over best and backseat is very comfy for even a 275lber.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 03:39:50 AM » |
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I never understood the craze last few years of UTV sales over ATV sales. Most (not all) are slower, bigger, harder to turn around than a ATV, but then again, they are probably smoother, more comfy, and more like a car like ride if into that. Both have their pros and cons. Have met a few LARGE UTV's on the trails here in WI and personally, IMO, on the tight trails meeting one of these 60 inch or so wide or wider on 95% of trails is hardly safe without me on my ATV going OFF the trail when meeting an oncoming UTV. The trend to UTVs has skyrocketed and the state of WI needs to make most of the trails much wider to accomodate these wider machines. back on topic, have heard of these machines but since dealer network nowhere in the midwest near me, I would stick with yamaha or polaris or can am UTV's USED there are GREAT deals to be had on craigslists all the time gently used ones under 10 grand in near new condition. If I was in the market for a 6 seater large UTV, this yamaha viking very reasonably priced would be at the top of my list to buy: https://madison.craigslist.org/snw/d/2015-yamaha-viking-6-seater/6752443325.htmlIf going large, the Viking by yamaha trumps the polaris ranger for size but nothing wrong with Polaris and Can Am either, all are good. maybe when I get older into my 60's I might think otherwise about LARGE UTV''s, but right now, they are too expensive, too big, and too cumbersome for my needs to be much good for anything for my own needs. Sometimes my Can Am Max 2-up ATV's being near 4 feet wide as normal is fine but the 8 foot length has at times made it harder to turn around on the not so wide of trails. That said, the longer wheelbase and able to seat 2 passengers with the best comfort of any 2-up ATV with the most power/fun factor, suits my needs as of now. I have let the wife drive my 800cc with me on the back seat, and it sits up very high able to see all over best and backseat is very comfy for even a 275lber. Are not your trails regulated by maximum of 50 inch width like Michigan's are?
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 04:43:01 AM » |
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I never understood the craze last few years of UTV sales over ATV sales. Most (not all) are slower, bigger, harder to turn around than a ATV, but then again, they are probably smoother, more comfy, and more like a car like ride if into that. Both have their pros and cons.
Have met a few LARGE UTV's on the trails here in WI and personally, IMO, on the tight trails meeting one of these 60 inch or so wide or wider on 95% of trails is hardly safe without me on my ATV going OFF the trail when meeting an oncoming UTV. The trend to UTVs has skyrocketed and the state of WI needs to make most of the trails much wider to accomodate these wider machines.
back on topic, have heard of these machines but since dealer network nowhere in the midwest near me, I would stick with yamaha or polaris or can am UTV's USED there are GREAT deals to be had on craigslists all the time gently used ones under 10 grand in near new condition.
If I was in the market for a 6 seater large UTV, this yamaha viking very reasonably priced would be at the top of my list to buy: https://madison.craigslist.org/snw/d/2015-yamaha-viking-6-seater/6752443325.html
If going large, the Viking by yamaha trumps the polaris ranger for size but nothing wrong with Polaris and Can Am either, all are good.
maybe when I get older into my 60's I might think otherwise about LARGE UTV''s, but right now, they are too expensive, too big, and too cumbersome for my needs to be much good for anything for my own needs. Sometimes my Can Am Max 2-up ATV's being near 4 feet wide as normal is fine but the 8 foot length has at times made it harder to turn around on the not so wide of trails. That said, the longer wheelbase and able to seat 2 passengers with the best comfort of any 2-up ATV with the most power/fun factor, suits my needs as of now. I have let the wife drive my 800cc with me on the back seat, and it sits up very high able to see all over best and backseat is very comfy for even a 275lber.
Are not your trails regulated by maximum of 50 inch width like Michigan's are? Very, very few are regulated stating NO UTV use or should rather say maximum 50 inches wide. I can only think of a couple trails in the entire state being under 50 inches wide regulated but guessing 90% are open for all UTV and ATV use. If you think about it, very few UTVs are under 50 inches wide being well over 75% HUGE and WIDE being on old railroad beds (basically same width as a crushed gravel bike trail if had to guess about 7 to 8 feet wide tops. A lot of trails have hardly any shoulder so if coming around a blind corner which I have done meeting a HUGE UTV, I had to run entirely off the trail to avoid an accident since he was entirely hogging the entire width of the trail. WI has greatly allowed UTV use since is huge revenue for sales and revenue since in the past few years have GREATLY seen going to on the trails over 75% UTVs vs. 25% ATVs (give or take) Everyone wants bigger and better. Sometimes I miss my old 2003 polaris 329cc 4wd magnum ATV for it was simple, smaller although full sized ATV, and had just enough power to keep up and do 45 mph top speed. Only a few times I wish it had more speed on long, smooth stretches where able to do say 55 mph safely, but it got 30 mpg vs. most other ATV's I have had get low to mid 20s for mpg, not that anyone buys an ATV for gas mileage though. Am surprised my identical 500cc identical can am gets the same 25 mpg as my 800cc identical can am. The 800cc takes less oommph to get it going especially staying at say 45 mph the rpms can tell are much lower in the 800cc ATV. I do not have too many negatives to say about UTV's except the dangerous oncoming meetings where the state of WI needs to widen 75% or more of their trails which they will not spend the money on to do ever so is a mute point to even having them consider it. Only other bad thing is when catching up to most, not all, UTV's putzing on the trails doing 20 mph (most speed limit is 35 mph) which is easily done am able to do 45 mph in most cases safely, you cannot pass a HUGE, WIDE UTV hogging the entire trail and most do not pay attention to pull over to allow the faster ATVs/UTVs to pass on the left. I have followed UTV's for miles and fully aware of me being behind them putzing along at 20-25 mph and still not pulling over. Then again, I have met once a decked out 20K 4 seater Can Am UTV me doing easily 45-50 mph on average with them catching up to me and me having to pull over since they were speed demons doing 60 mph and over, man were they hauling _ss! I luckily have been only pulled over once on my local boring flat railroad bed ATV trail for speeding in a 35 mph limit registered by sheriff doing 43 mph. He gave me a warning and told me to slow it down. I think that is normal to give warnings but do not want to push my luck doing over 45 mph which I have done a few times doing 55 mph tops on the trails for a short burst of speed on straightaways. My 800cc will do 72-73 mph maxed out on level roads while my 500cc will do 64 mph and for me, much past 55-60 mph is unsafe to do so for very long. We have stretches of rural road routes going from hicktown to hicktown still speed limit 35 mph tops but no one abides by that rule and 90% sure will not meet a sheriff out there patrolling either. If they did patrol, then I would say 90% of ATVers would be ticketed for most do 50 mph or more on the roads. I cannot imagine these 1000cc machines being too fast for most conditions am sure top speed 80 mph or over. If I had to buy one ATV would be 650cc since IMO the 500cc is a little weak in very few instances but can do it all good enough while my 800cc ATV can be too jumpy/torquey off the line and harder to hold a steady speed on the thumb throttle vs. my 500cc is easier to maintain constant speed. My wife hates it when I stab the throttle on the 800cc giving her whiplash on the rear passenger seat being too jerky but my 500cc is more of a controlled smooth speeding up.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 05:00:19 AM » |
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I have a 2003 Honda Rincon. I bought it 15 years ago to pull a trail mower over some pretty rough terrain on some rental property I had. That is pretty much all I used it for this whole time, never been trail riding at all. It’s only been in the shop once a few years ago for a carb rebuild due to sitting to much. It still looks and runs great and of course it is a Honda!
The Reeper is assembled in New Mexico. It is available as a 2 or 4 seater. It is powered by either 800+ or 1100 cc water cooled overhead cam fuel injected gas engine that can achieve about 40mpg. It’s backed by a conventional hydraulic clutch and a 5 speed manual transmission. They have dual locking differentials that can be locked independently from one another. Street legal in many states and they come with titles as a lsv vehicle. Lights, turn signals, windshield and wipers, 4 wheel disc brakes all standard and dot approved. The engine is also used by John Deere in some of their utv’s.
All this I have gleaned from the internet and one Reeper forum where owners seem to be happy with them. I’m not sold on them even though I find them to be an attractive package. I know there are a lot of alternatives out there but as I mentioned in my first post, my interest at this time is the fact there is a potential good buy on a used one near me that I may go look at after Thanksgiving if it is still available. Because there are not dealers everywhere I know they may be more of a regional product at this point in time so I am curious if anyone on here from around the country might have some personal insight.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2018, 05:20:50 AM » |
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how long has the company been around would be my key on buying as well as regional sales/service availability. I highly doubt they will get 40 mpg more like 25 mpg tops. Even my old 329cc single cylinder ATV only got 30 avg mpg. You can equip easy enough a UTV to be street legal with turn signals, etc. I know knockoff ATVs company like CFMOTO are out there even Kymco ATV''s I know of locally are out there and know for a fact that KYMCO ATVs are legit and worth looking at buying to save a grand or more vs. yamaha, can am, etc.
Cannot hurt to go look at it and give it a spin. You may find it fits you comfy and decide to buy it if the price is right, go for it. I would start off LOW in price since not a well known brand and see if dealer networks are nearby where you live within say 100 miles.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2018, 06:01:51 AM » |
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Difference between most atv’s and the Reeper is the 5 speed transmission with overdrive. I’m sure that 40 mpg can’t be attained while running wide open. As with any vehicle, I’m sure the average is in the mid thirties. The unit I’m going to look at is a 2007 model so they are at least 11 years old.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2018, 06:40:05 AM » |
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New they go for 15-20k. About the same price as a UTV. Cool little vehicle, still looks like a Suzuki Samurai though. Some of my buddies built those Samurai's as a cheap version of a jeep and they were awesome.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2018, 07:12:14 AM » |
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He’s got this one priced at $5k. Still seems like a lot but if I were to buy the Rincon would need to go. I’m tight on space already. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2018, 03:54:12 PM » |
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how many miles on it for a 2007? Seems to be about the same price as a good used UTV with say under 4-5000 miles on it? 5K seems reasonable, but is the back bed space really that small or is the pic misleading? Does it have strap tie down brackets in back bed on each of the 4 corners at least? Looks to be more of a small dune buggy/car vs. a UTV with like said 5 speed tranny vs. automatic belt driven.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2018, 04:43:30 PM » |
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At this point I don’t know the miles. The bed is small would only hold 4-5 shopping bags I guess. The cover with the two black handles is the engine cover. Under the hood up front is the radiator, master cylinders for brake and clutch and some of the wiring. I guess it was designed with a Jeep flare. The body is all steel as well as the frame and the doors are hinged. image uploading siteAnd they all came with a front mounted winch. My research tells me these are not Cadillacs in the sense of say a Honda Pioneer but maybe a touch above a Nash.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2018, 06:30:10 PM » |
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Bery neat little buggy. I like them more than any of the UTV out right now.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2018, 04:05:46 AM » |
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appears to be street legal correct? If so and you have the warmth in your state to drive it more so year round and actual mpg is over 30, then for 5K or so is well worth it, assuming it runs well of course. I bet those more so off road tires though wear out quickly if running on paved roads doing 60 mph all the time... would make a great dune type buggy or as one said suzuki samurai replacement, although those have been known to tip over easily.
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2018, 05:37:31 AM » |
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appears to be street legal correct? Depends on jurisdiction. Arizona seems to allow an OHV tag on most anything, especially side-by-sides and the bigger ones too...so I would not expect any issues here. Plus there is what may be the easiest work around for the 40-45 mph speed limiter...unplug the sensor and use GPS for your speed. And there is supposedly a way to increase output to about 100hp, but I have not found that yet... https://www.dirtlegal.com/blog/2018/7/14/heres-how-to-derestrict-your-mahindra-roxor-and-unlock-its-top-speed
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2018, 05:40:26 AM » |
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They are street legal but some people have had trouble getting them licensed just due to the DMV in some areas not being familiar with them. Many people are running them with street tires if they use them on pavement a old and a another set of wheels for playing on the trails. From what I understand due to gearing they are more like 45 mph cruising machines. They are also great for people who like to tinker. Much like the Valkyrie, owners seem to find an endless array of things to modify and upgrade. There are lift kits, tires and wheels, super chargers, turbo kits, stereos, lighting, exhaust upgrades and on and on.
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2018, 06:54:24 AM » |
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I don't really care either way but wonder, do you have a need for such a vehicle or is this just something to "play" with? I'm having a hard time figuring out what one could do. Seems like a limited use vehicle. Just curious....
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2018, 08:32:11 AM » |
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I don't really care either way but wonder, do you have a need for such a vehicle or is this just something to "play" with? I'm having a hard time figuring out what one could do. Seems like a limited use vehicle. Just curious....
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Limited use just as my Rincon has been and even more so with the move coming up. My grandsons love riding with me on the atv but not all that safe or practical. With something like this it would work better for them plus I believe much more maneuverable with a steering wheel. It could also be used as a parts gofur or a grocery getter. If I didn’t already have the Rincon that I can sell to offset the cost I wouldn’t even think about it for now. Since I still haven’t laid eyes on it in person, I have no idea if it is something I would really want. Having looked closely at the pictures, I think this may be a two wheel drive version as I can’t see any drive shafts in the front end picture. If not 4wd then my interest goes way down along with my estimate of value.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2018, 07:35:09 AM » |
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if playing in the dunes/sand, 4wd is appreciated. On my ATV's in sandy say 8-10 inches of sand on the trails where I can go, if I use 2wd it bogs down considerably to where say a 330cc ATV in 4wd can easily keep up with a 800cc ATV only in 2wd. It is a lot more fun in 4wd in sand than just 2wd and more control as well.
I say if you have a NEED for this machine and will use it, money well spent, but if like the rincon limited use, skip it. Much like my 250cc scooter my wife said I would NEVER use it when I bought it is a dumb idea, but I proved her wrong over the 8 or so years owning it using it about 1400 miles or so every single year on trips 20 miles or less. I hop on that more so than my VAlkyrie if under 20 mile trips one way.
I could care less I look like a big doofus on it. I sure get funny looks by the people I pass on it on the hwy. though like it is supercharged or something doing 70 mph in a 55 mph speed zone. Much past 70 mph it likes to max out and become too loud, but that is o.k. not made to go much past 70 mph anyways is 90% of my driving conditions anyways. It surely pays off if I need to run to the nearest store in next biggest town 14 miles away for 1-2 small items NEEDED ASAP that day do not feel like wasting gas only costing me like 1 buck to do so is all in gas money at 63 avg mpg. Plus gives me a chance to get out on 2 wheels no matter what it is.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2018, 01:14:29 PM » |
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I was just reminded of something else I hadn’t noticed with the rig in the pictures. No doors, you have to climb over. All the newer models, and much more expensive, have opening doors. I’m sure this no door model may be a bit more rigid body wise but still a negotiation point. I’ve been traveling over the holidays but I will be back home Monday and I’ll have to go take a look at it and find out what bottom dollar is the thing.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2018, 03:50:31 PM » |
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I was just reminded of something else I hadn’t noticed with the rig in the pictures. No doors, you have to climb over. All the newer models, and much more expensive, have opening doors. I’m sure this no door model may be a bit more rigid body wise but still a negotiation point. I’ve been traveling over the holidays but I will be back home Monday and I’ll have to go take a look at it and find out what bottom dollar is the thing.
Yet another non selling point harder than heck to jump in dukes of hazard style, well sort of, especially if over say 50 years old... I sometimes have trouble getting into/more so out of our 4 door sedan some of these cars nowadays are LOW riders...
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2018, 06:25:20 PM » |
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Just found out these are about as rare as hens teeth, not that it makes them more valuable. It seems this model came out a year or so after Jeep had a concept vehicle called the Hurricane that was debuted at a bunch of auto shows in 2005. Seems this little Reeper had too many styling cues from the Jeep concept vehicle and they sued. The concept vehicle had 2 hemi engines and 4 wheel steering to boot. The Reeper doorless design with the molded step in the body along with the overall profile of the body and fenders is what got them in trouble. Don’t know how many of this model was made but in all my searching I haven’t seen another one.
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