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« on: November 23, 2018, 06:46:03 PM » |
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that runs on a 20lb. propane cylinder about 20 inches wide at the base and near 7 1/2 feet tall on top puts out 47000 btu's made for heating patios outside.
Anyone have one and any good/bads on them? I bought one today black friday deal on sale 89 bucks not so sure I would use it much in the winter on our patio due to high winds guessing it might tip over being that tall or break if 30 mph winds or more, but would come in handy if having to work outside during colder temps putting it right by you generating heat down at you to keep warmer?
I was thinking of using it in my garage during the winter say changing oil for 2-3 hours or working on the cycles or other projects to keep warmer even though it says 'outdoor use only'?? I would think would be o.k. to use in the garage for 2-3 hours (not all day of course) even if having to crack open the garage door 1 foot or so to keep fresh air coming in? ONLY issue is my garage height to wooden beams is standard 8 foot tall and the unit is near 7 1/2 feet so not so sure being 6-8 inches away from the wooden rafters up top is SMART being too hot unless I find out the HEAT goes ALL DOWN at you NOT UP?? Not sure until I assemble it this weekend hopefully and find out if useable in my garage. 47000 btu says will heat a 200 sq. foot area so would be perfect for a patio or even my garage since only 20 inches wide not taking up much floor space. Just wish the height was more like 6 to 7 foot tops not 7 1/2 feet total height would feel more comfortable using it in my garage for HEAT not so close to upper wooden rafters.
I might use it tomorrow or sunday even in garage regardless since have 5 cycles to change oil and wash/wax if I have enough ambition to do so since heard SNOW is officially coming sunday night into Monday and then 20 degree temps so riding season is done. AFTER driving to Madison WI black friday deals today shopping following our local snow plow truck spreading foolishly TONS of road salt all over for no fricking reason was 35 degrees out this morning, I say riding season is DONE officially except maybe going for a quick spin around my city block to warm up the cycles to change oil is all. freezing rain and sleet and snow is coming for Monday am sure of it meaning an end to riding season with much colder temps this week as well.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2018, 07:35:43 PM » |
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I have two of them and use one in my garage all the time. I do however crack the acsess to my attic and let it vent through there. But as stated dont use it for hours on end....of course our winters arent near as cold as yours.
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cookiedough
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2018, 07:09:31 AM » |
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I have two of them and use one in my garage all the time. I do however crack the acsess to my attic and let it vent through there. But as stated dont use it for hours on end....of course our winters arent near as cold as yours.
sorry, just saw posted on tech board not general board, my bad! Say, how tall is your rafters in your garage? mine is only 8 feet and have tons of stuff up there would be about 1 foot away from most items and 8 inches or so away from the wooden rafter supports. Does much of the HEAT from up top of the round metal flashing of the patio heater go downward, meaning can keep say your hands above the unit on top 8 inches away without burning down the house/garage? I think for 90 bucks putting out 47000 btu max would be a good solution the few times I am working in the brutal winter doing stuff in garage (or outside)not having to run into the house every 10 minutes to warm up when 10 degrees out in the garage. |
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2018, 08:02:53 AM » |
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Cookie,
I have one on my patio and that "Chinese hat" top does a real good job of not letting too much heat escape out the top. I have a wood ceiling on my patio and I just feel it occasionally to make sure its not too warm. My patio height is less than 8' and use it 6-8 times a year for parties or just having a few drinks outside. Just watch out for having it too close (within 3') of plants, it will cook them. 89 bucks was a screaming deal.
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cookiedough
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2018, 10:59:31 AM » |
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Cookie,
I have one on my patio and that "Chinese hat" top does a real good job of not letting too much heat escape out the top. I have a wood ceiling on my patio and I just feel it occasionally to make sure its not too warm. My patio height is less than 8' and use it 6-8 times a year for parties or just having a few drinks outside. Just watch out for having it too close (within 3') of plants, it will cook them. 89 bucks was a screaming deal.
thanks, will try assembling it this weekend hopefully since probably going to need it since not going to get done putting up the cycles before 3-4 inches of snow and 20 degree temps come this week. I was hoping 6 inches or so from wooden rafters would be safe, but was not so sure. If I can keep my hand 6 inches above that chinese hat then doubt it will catch fire on the rafters or items above the rafters in garage. I hate this time of year having to straighten out my garage/shed and put all the crap I tossed all over in a spot so able to squeeze in 2 cars in my garage along with cycles, etc. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2018, 01:09:30 PM » |
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Propane is a "wet" heat and will deposit lots of moisture in an enclosed space.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2018, 02:03:00 PM » |
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I would be careful with a patio heater in the garage.
For a little over a $100 you could buy a safer garage heater.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2018, 02:32:43 PM » |
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I would be careful with a patio heater in the garage.
For a little over a $100 you could buy a safer garage heater.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2018, 03:34:17 PM » |
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I bought 2 of them about 5 years ago on black Friday. They are still in their boxes  my dad has 3 he uses all the time. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2018, 03:42:46 PM » |
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went and took it out of the box. going to have to take it back to the store, bottom canister cover for the propane tank is dented in pretty bad. The box was dented and torn open from the store taking the last one on display. Welcome to Black Friday...  Gave me a chance to look at directions and does say leave 3 feet above unit and I will only have at most 1 foot tops, if that. I will think about it??? Another issue is possibility of tipping over outside on the patio for sure with high winds where I live. It has 3 anchor points you can put into the ground to assemble onto the base (but if on concrete patio nowhere to tie it down), so guessing even with a 20lb. propane tank down low, the over 7 foot beam could come crashing down and dent it up pretty badly as well. My 7x7 storage shed filled with HEAVY snowblower/cast iron patio furniture has slid 2-3 feet in high winds closer to my garage in my backyard where there is NO wind protection. Luckily it has not tipped over, but that would probably take 80 mph winds to do vs. near 50 mph I have seen. |
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2018, 08:53:09 PM » |
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I use a 25,000 btu Kerosun for most part and /or a hard lined propane 30,000 btu gas wall heater with ceramic heating element/inserts. My garage is 1500 sq. ft. And as mentioned propane is wet heat. Had to replace two wooden framed windows on the southside as they rotted from the inside thus they were replaced with vinyl sliders. The north one is still in good shape but it don't get the direct sun to promote rot.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2018, 09:24:12 PM » |
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thanks all for the suggestions. I am going to return the tall patio heater for 89 bucks and instead get one of these, now to decide on dynaglo at home depot for 57 or mr heater brand at menards for 50. https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/heaters/gas-garage-heaters/mr-heater-reg-25-000-btu-portable-convection-heater/f270470/p-1444441205810-c-6861.htm?tid=2482632454934356222&ipos=4https://www.homedepot.com/p/Dyna-Glo-15K-25K-BTU-Propane-Convection-Heater-RMC-LPC25DG/202223055they both look identical to me almost same adjustable low to high temp and 25btu is plenty for 600sq. ft. or less garage which mine is. Will take up much less space 13x13x14 high and can be closer to my working area in the garage and still if need be carried outside with no fear of tipping over also putting it pretty close to the patio furniture when outside in colder temps. sounds like 79btu on patio heater is overkill for my garage also too high and close to 8 foot rafters or 12x12 patio considering these 25btu small units will do 600sq. feet. Plus, will not tip over and much easier to assemble nothing needed to do really besides hooking up the hose. Plus, these smaller 25btus will go over 20 hours on a 20lb. propane tank vs. those 60btu on up units only getting like 9 hours on a 20lb. propane tank. fully aware to keep air movement and only will be out in the garage for 4-5 hours at a time and has garage roof vents in front and back for minimal air flow and/or just crack open the garage door a foot or so for ventilation. NO way opening my back door since is a typhoon of air coming in all winter long due to high winds no blockage open farmers field behind my house. I still remember as a kid ice fishing my Dad use to have our old tip over to light kerosene green coleman heater unit in our portable shack nice and toasty but even then was too much with no air movement a few times as a kid made me sleepy due to lack of oxygen even with the 4x4 inch shack top vent open. Did not help that Dad use to like putting a rug and snow over the outer front of the portable shack to prevent heat loss. Have cut many a fishing line 3-4lb. test getting too close to that heater one quick touch and line gone for good. I much preferred the coleman lantern generated plenty of heat and extra light was nice as well. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2018, 07:17:45 AM » |
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found a GREAT deal and letting you all know what I found just now: Returning the patio heater and at TARGET today ONLY (at least I think) get an extra 15% off turkey day special (on top of 5% redcard discount if Target member) on these 2 heaters: https://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=propane+heaterI am getting the 40btu unit that sits on top of the 20lb. propane tank but if needing more heat for a bigger shed/barn, etc, they also have 15% off turkey day special on the 50-120btu unit as well both made by dynaglo. read reviews on the 40btu sit on top of tank unit and even on low setting 30btu''s heats up easily std. 2 car garage. I like the fact no 10 foot propane hose laying around as in the smaller units that sit on the ground. Since my kid works at Target, I get another 10% off so 30% off total basically being under 70 bucks with tax total. Heck, I will skip the ice fishing shack this winter and just bring this with 20lb. propane tank and sit outside keeping it 5 feet away from me being toasty warm, who needs a shack? Other items/units are also 15% off if you check my link if needing a smaller/bigger unit. Am sure other Target 15% off turkey day deals are out there as well just look. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2018, 08:45:35 AM » |
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Be careful about the regulator freezing up. If you run a propane tank in a garage or shed the moisture will freeze the tank and regulator and you will be without heat. Better to sit the tank outside in the cold and run a line inside to keep from freezing up.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2018, 12:16:08 PM » |
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Looks like a nice unit. Do yourself a solid and get a hold of an old plastic milk crate to place the tank in. One of the many things it is perfectly sized for, will make that set-up MUCH more stable
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2018, 01:24:52 PM » |
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Be careful about the regulator freezing up. If you run a propane tank in a garage or shed the moisture will freeze the tank and regulator and you will be without heat. Better to sit the tank outside in the cold and run a line inside to keep from freezing up.
Serving in Ankara Turkey (living downtown), all hot water heat was small propane tanks. You didn't want to carry the big ones up five flights to my apartment anyway (no elevators). They used these wall mounted flash heaters in the kitchen, and you really needed to follow the directions carefully, or maybe blow/explode your heater off the wall (with or without shrapnel). All apartments had full surround balconies around all bldgs, and the tank sat outside. Now my shower was way in the back of this big apartment, and several times (always in the dead of winter), I was naked and soapy and the propane ran out, and suddenly you get this blast of frigid water in an apartment that was always cold anyway. Man what a shock that was. I would just walk down the hall to my kitchen access to my propane on the balcony, and change tanks, naked. Screw it, I just let the neighbors look. Hey Mehmet, there's that soapy naked crazy American again. I lived somewhere out there. (the 220 volt lights sparkled at night)  I didn't use a balcony heater, I used kerosene space heaters inside. You just never went to sleep with them on... so you'd wake up in the morning. |
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2018, 04:21:26 PM » |
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that link above at Target also has a 10btu tank but runs on 1lb. propane cylinders, but can convert with optional attachment to a 20lb. tank hookup if wanted to. Also, 15% off turkey day special and 5% redcard discount, pretty darn good deal as well for SMALLER less heat needs. Would be good to sit on a patio table very close by since 360degree heat output like the one I am getting that sits on top of the propane tank. Good idea on the milk crate have a few in the basement will see if the propane tank fits snug into bottom of the milk crate for more stability on this top mounted propane unit...
30-40000 btu unit sounds like plenty to heat my 20x24' garage some read reviews using for a 10x10 greenhouse when 40 degrees out heats up in no time to upper 70s, good to know!
Will be testing it out next weekend in garage attempting to change oil on 4 of 5 cycles and cleaning them up some to put up for the winter should have this weekend but had other projects had to get done before snow is comin....... Sure hope the snow prediction is just south of us as predicted. 30 miles north of me NO snow predicted but 50 miles south of me up to 10 inches, go figure, very, very weird. Am expecting 1-2 inches tops closer to the lower end of the spectrum, or so I hope!
Heard Chicago IL / Racine WI SE corner of WI area 6-10 inches yet tonight - NO THANKS!!! Keep it just 50 miles or so SE of me please!!!
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2018, 05:01:19 PM » |
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We got 3-4 inches of the white stuff today (with 40mph+ wind gusts) . The high today was about 50 - at midnight. Down to 26 degrees right now (with wind chill in the single digits) and supposed to get into the teens tonight. At least the power hasn't flickered today.
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2018, 05:57:24 PM » |
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We got 3-4 inches of the white stuff today (with 40mph+ wind gusts) . The high today was about 50 - at midnight. Down to 26 degrees right now (with wind chill in the single digits) and supposed to get into the teens tonight. At least the power hasn't flickered today.
isn't that odd can drive cycle in the morning near 50 degrees, but later in afternoon freezing and snowing. VERY weird indeed!!! |
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2018, 06:38:22 PM » |
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Whatever you end up with, you'll want to have a combination carbon monoxide & propane/LP gas detector in the garage. I have the kind you plug into a wall outlet on an extension cord instead-dangling from a rafter in the middle of the garage as low as possible without being in the way since the gas is heavier than air.
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