Proposed Constitutional Term Limits

[Rams]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/term-limits-ted-cruz-proposal/index.html

IMHO, the best idea brought forth in a long time.
(Has been proposed before but most politicians don't want to support a Bill putting them out of a job.)

Rams

[OnaWingandaPrayer]

they will not impose term limits upon themselves . WE can thru Article V Convention of States .
Convention of States.com

[shortleg]

   If you look at what it cost us when they leave office after serving one term
is just crazy.  We will have to stick something about that too.

[scooperhsd]

It really needs done - badly. That said, the only way that can happen is one of those methods that have never been tried....

[JFaje1]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/term-limits-ted-cruz-proposal/index.html

IMHO, the best idea brought forth in a long time.
(Has been proposed before but most politicians don't want to support a Bill putting them out of a job.)

Rams

Dang Rams, don't let scooperhsd see this, he snagged me the other day for my grammar
screw up.   ( Constitutuoonal)  (Constitutional) 
John

[Rams]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/term-limits-ted-cruz-proposal/index.html

IMHO, the best idea brought forth in a long time.
(Has been proposed before but most politicians don't want to support a Bill putting them out of a job.)

Rams

Dang Rams, don't let scooperhsd see this, he snagged me the other day for my grammar
screw up.   ( Constitutuoonal)  (Constitutional)  
John

Fixed.  

Long ago in a far away place, Bachelors Degree: Double Major, Double Minor.  Stuff happens.   

Rams 

[Robert]

Big News: Judicial Watch signed a settlement agreement with the State of California & County of Los Angeles under which they'll begin the process of removing from voter registration rolls up to 1.5 million inactive registered names that may be invalid.

Maybe this will help spur the need for term limits, the fact that the games are being revealed and dealt with.

[Pete]

Term limits i both a good and bad idea.
Sure it removes deadwood but it also removes those one might want to keep.

Perhaps a better idea is to re-instate the original intent:
That elected federal offices NOT be full time jobs and not have any benefits, and be subject to all laws they pass.

Break up the playhouse they have built for themselves.

[Rams]

Term limits i both a good and bad idea.
Sure it removes deadwood but it also removes those one might want to keep.

Perhaps a better idea is to re-instate the original intent:
That elected federal offices NOT be full time jobs and not have any benefits, and be subject to all laws they pass.

Break up the playhouse they have built for themselves.

This I could also support but, I don't see either option being put into practice.

Rams

[Patrick]

Term limit vote needs to be put out to referendum [ is that the correct term].  Everyone knows politicians  will  never vote for it.

[Pete]

Found these on another forum  -- god ideas.

"Criminal background checks for all politicians.
Drug and Alcohol testing.
Credit checks.
Check their social media.
Make it a criminal offence to lie to the people"

[rocketray]

join "Judicial Watch"..it's $50 or such..they seem to get stuff done constitutionally

[¿spoom]

Personally, I'm not a fan of term limits preventing the public from re-electing a politician that they feel is doing a good job. I am a fan of finding a way to get rid of the huge war chests incumbents can amass that shut out many people from even running UNLESS they get big outside money. I must confess I have no idea how to do that. It's easy to toss out knee-jerk reactions like, "put a spending cap on the campaigns" but how does say, a conservative running for national office buy enough airtime to counter TV networks that in effect, support other candidates for free? I'll use the Samantha Bee show, SNL and "the View" as examples on mainstream "entertainment" networks and not buried at 2am time slots. Not even referring to the major cable news networks, Maddow vs Limbaugh, et al.

[¿spoom]

Found these on another forum  -- god ideas.

"Criminal background checks for all politicians.
Drug and Alcohol testing.
Credit checks.
Check their social media.
Make it a criminal offence to lie to the people"

Based on what we've seen over the last 20-30 years, I doubt any of those ideas would make any difference to the loyal electorate. (Unless it was used as blackmail or partisan govt. agency political attacks) I still think somebody in DC had pictures of Paul Ryan with a goat, they way he turned into a spineless blob of Jello at the final years of his term. Even Trump Derangement Syndrome taken to Romney proportions doesn't explain former Speaker Ryan's harmful uselessness.

[Moonshot_1]

Personally, I'm not a fan of term limits preventing the public from re-electing a politician that they feel is doing a good job. I am a fan of finding a way to get rid of the huge war chests incumbents can amass that shut out many people from even running UNLESS they get big outside money. I must confess I have no idea how to do that. It's easy to toss out knee-jerk reactions like, "put a spending cap on the campaigns" but how does say, a conservative running for national office buy enough airtime to counter TV networks that in effect, support other candidates for free? I'll use the Samantha Bee show, SNL and "the View" as examples on mainstream "entertainment" networks and not buried at 2am time slots. Not even referring to the major cable news networks, Maddow vs Limbaugh, et al.

Originally, I believe, under the Constitution, the State legislators elected their Senators. The 17th Amendment changed this to "...elected by the people thereof"

I believe there was great wisdom in the original language and, perhaps, be extended to the electing of Representatives as well. The people would still be well represented in such a manner and with the addition of Federal Legislative term limits, the corruption would not be eliminated but at least curtailed.

[Pete]

Found these on another forum  -- god ideas.

"Criminal background checks for all politicians.
Drug and Alcohol testing.
Credit checks.
Check their social media.
Make it a criminal offence to lie to the people"

Based on what we've seen over the last 20-30 years, I doubt any of those ideas would make any difference to the loyal electorate. (Unless it was used as blackmail or partisan govt. agency political attacks) I still think somebody in DC had pictures of Paul Ryan with a goat, they way he turned into a spineless blob of Jello at the final years of his term. Even Trump Derangement Syndrome taken to Romney proportions doesn't explain former Speaker Ryan's harmful uselessness.

Never underestimate just plain stupidity, malice, greed and jealousy.

[JimC]

I still think somebody in DC had pictures of Paul Ryan with a goat, they way he turned into a spineless blob of Jello at the final years of his term. Even Trump Derangement Syndrome taken to Romney proportions doesn't explain former Speaker Ryan's harmful uselessness.

I was once a Ryan backer, but I have to agree with your post, he sure sold out the main stream conservative in his last 2 years. Someone has something on him, along with many of the others that stepped down this year.

Jim

[¿spoom]

Found these on another forum  -- god ideas.

"Criminal background checks for all politicians.
Drug and Alcohol testing.
Credit checks.
Check their social media.
Make it a criminal offence to lie to the people"

Based on what we've seen over the last 20-30 years, I doubt any of those ideas would make any difference to the loyal electorate. (Unless it was used as blackmail or partisan govt. agency political attacks) I still think somebody in DC had pictures of Paul Ryan with a goat, they way he turned into a spineless blob of Jello at the final years of his term. Even Trump Derangement Syndrome taken to Romney proportions doesn't explain former Speaker Ryan's harmful uselessness.

Never underestimate just plain stupidity, malice, greed and jealousy.

Possible, but something just didn't smell right with Speaker Ryan the last 2 years. I've spoken with him 3-4 times at/after public events, and he's not a dumb man, nor unwilling to argue a point. He was, however, useless at the end, as far as fighting for the people who voted for him. I did what I could, voting against him the last primary. I knew he'd win anyway, but I was hoping enough other people would do the same to the point where he'd realize not everyone was pleased. I'm bummed his eventual replacement was an underling and seems very similar.

[¿spoom]

When it comes to "how do we change the election situation" question, where does something like this fit in?

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) Billionaire investor and Democratic activist Tom Steyer said Wednesday that he will not run for the White House in 2020 and will instead focus on calling for President Donald Trump's impeachment.

Steyer, who has spent $50 million on his Need to Impeach campaign and announced plans to spend $40 million more this year, said at an event in Des Moines that "the impeachment question has reached an inflection point," given that Democrats have taken majority control of the House.

"I said last year that I'm willing to do whatever I can to protect our country from this reckless, lawless and dangerous president," Steyer said. "Therefore, I will be dedicating 100 percent of my time, effort and resources working for Mr. Trump's impeachment and removal from office. I am not running for president at this time."

Steyer said his $40 million commitment for 2019 was designed to pressure the Democratic-controlled House to begin impeachment hearings and to persuade the party's presidential contenders to support impeachment on their platform.

The decision not to run comes as a surprise since Steyer had been traveling the country promoting the political platform he released after November's midterm elections.

Although Steyer opted against a presidential run, the constellation of political organizations that he has built is likely to have an impact on the presidential race and on key congressional races across the country.

Several prominent Democrats have also declined to run in 2020, including former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick and Stormy Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti.

[carolinarider09]

I am for term limits with a but...   As others have said, term limits could possibly limit someone from running after the limits are up that is really doing a good job.  I have one representing me here in South Carolina. 

If he would be term limited would his replacement be as good?  When does one in public office succumb to the powers found in that office? 

The countries founders believed that, we the people, would be responsible and elect those who would truly represent us and, after their time in office, they would come back home and live under the laws that they had passed.  In other words they would be just like you and me after they finished serving.  Such is not the case today. 

And since they, the members of congress, control their pay and benefits it will be a hard thing to fix. 

But there is one process that is poised to take some necessary steps.  It will not be pretty but it is the only recourse that we have and that is the Convention of States Project; a national effort to call a convention under Article V of the United States Constitution, restricted to proposing amendments that will impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit its power and jurisdiction, and impose term limits on its officials and members of Congress.

This is an on going project that has the potential to correct years of neglect on our part to reign in a federal government that is both bloated and goes far beyond the intent of the founding fathers.