Inzane 17

Just installed Jersey's Shifter Mod

Started by Chrisj CMA, Fri 25, Jan 2019, 16:58:27

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Chrisj CMA

Very fast and easy.  Well, was fast because I happen to have a drill press, highly recommended for that hole that has to be drilled.  That shifter is SECURE now only moves in the direction its supposed to.  Ill bet the oil seal never wears out now.  Thanks Jersey


indybobm

#1
Looks good. That is exactly why the slot is there.
So many roads, so little time
VRCC # 5258

Farside

Farside

Tfrank59

That looks great. And your report about how easy it was to install makes me want to get one.
-Tom

Keep the rubber side down.  USMC '78-'84
'98 Valkyrie, '02 VTX 1800, '96 Royal Star, '06 Drifter, '09 Bonneville, '10 KTM 530, '04 XR 650, '76 Bultaco, '81 CR 450, '78 GS 750...

98valk

Quote from: indybobm on Fri 25, Jan 2019, 17:01:33
Looks good. Exactly why the slot is there.

for adjustment of the shift lever to accommodate different size boots.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

98valk

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

MarkT

Yep.  Looks good.  I'd buy one if I hadn't already done this on Jade & Deerslayer.  Come to think of it, George could use one.  Hmm.

Vietnam-474 TFW Takhli 9-12/72 Linebckr II;307 SBW U-Tapao 05/73-4

Jersey

Thanks! ChrisJ   Appreciate the feedback.

For those who are wondering about why there's a slot.  This is for two reasons.
1. Slight variances in exactly where the hole is drilled in the side of the shift lever.
2. To allow for 1-spline setting up or down from factory installation. 

Something to also keep in mind. The main post that the shift lever slides onto is installed onto another spline near the transmission case.  This can also be offset a notch... so there's quite a bit of adjustment available.

Jersey

RonW

As already stated, the slot allows adjustment. Theoretically, the Jersey Bracket is suppose to line up with the gearshift spindle's axis. albeit, at that coordinate, the gearshift spindle's axis is an imaginary line. The design of the bracket does most of the work for you. Just fine tunning it a little.

2000 Valkyrie Tourer

Chrisj CMA

Just did a good shake down test ride. Shifting is more positive. Crisp. But I like how easy it makes it to find neutral. All in all smart little mod. Bike shifts like a newer bike and that's a good thing

RonW

A thumbs up or encouragement never hurts.
2000 Valkyrie Tourer

Jersey

Quote from: RonW on Sat 26, Jan 2019, 12:30:07
As already stated, the slot allows adjustment. Theoretically, the Jersey Bracket is suppose to line up with the gearshift spindle's axis. albeit, at that coordinate, the gearshift spindle's axis is an imaginary line. The design of the bracket does most of the work for you. Just fine tunning it a little.



Nice drawing RonW!  Exactly!  Took measurements of the Spindle and Shift Lever to get the exact offset, spline angles, frame mounting, etc. to identify how much slot angle was needed for ample adjustment... without making it too big. 
Jersey

WoodyFL

Just ordered mine today. Looking forward to installing it!  :cooldude:
2000 Blue/Silver I/S
Ocoee, FL

MarkT

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Fri 25, Jan 2019, 16:58:27
Very fast and easy.  Well, was fast because I happen to have a drill press, highly recommended for that hole that has to be drilled.  That shifter is SECURE now only moves in the direction its supposed to.  Ill bet the oil seal never wears out now.  Thanks Jersey



Dayum your bike is clean!  Do you ever ride?

Just kiddin.  Seriously though watcha doin, pressure washin?  I have a Honda pressure washer - brand new and a year old, never used yet.   The first one failed, took it back to Costco, they replaced, and I said I'm savin this one until I really need to wash something.  Afraid to squirt that hard on the bike, gonna mess it up seals and such.

Vietnam-474 TFW Takhli 9-12/72 Linebckr II;307 SBW U-Tapao 05/73-4

Chrisj CMA

#14
Quote from: MarkT on Sat 26, Jan 2019, 15:48:13
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Fri 25, Jan 2019, 16:58:27
Very fast and easy.  Well, was fast because I happen to have a drill press, highly recommended for that hole that has to be drilled.  That shifter is SECURE now only moves in the direction its supposed to.  Ill bet the oil seal never wears out now.  Thanks Jersey



Dayum your bike is clean!  Do you ever ride?

Just kiddin.  Seriously though watcha doin, pressure washin?  I have a Honda pressure washer - brand new and a year old, never used yet.   The first one failed, took it back to Costco, they replaced, and I said I'm savin this one until I really need to wash something.  Afraid to squirt that hard on the bike, gonna mess it up seals and such.

I bought the bike with 5k miles on it. In 17 years I have run the clock up to just over 162K miles. I know that's not a heck of a lot per year, but I do what I can. I have washed it with a hose less than 10 times. Mostly I use mean green and spray wax and wet towels

Bighead

And Jeff tell him what you said when you looked at my Bee! :2funny:
1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: Bighead on Sat 26, Jan 2019, 20:23:07
And Jeff tell him what you said when you looked at my Bee! :2funny:

Bighead keeps his clean too, looked even more bright and shiny than mine that day. Made me work even harder ...lol

Bighead

1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing

sdv003

I installed mine a week ago.  Took about an hour (no drill press here).  Very easy.  Instructions are complete and easy to follow.  Attention to detail is obvious, an example being the little notch that guides the marker used to help figure out where to drill the hole.  Shifting seems only a bit cleaner, but the lady is young at 40K.  That said, I bet I'll never need an oil seal either.  No pix because there's no way my bike is that clean.

Bambam650

How do I obtain one of these shifter braces?  My 1997 Standard just turned over 70K miles.  I haven't had any issues with the shift lever thus far and would like to keep it that way.


1997 Standard (Black) original owner, bought new in August 1996

indybobm

I installed mine yesterday. Very easy installation. Obvious that Jersey got the dimensions right. Great product!
So many roads, so little time
VRCC # 5258

98valk

Quote from: Bambam650 on Wed 30, Jan 2019, 13:23:54
How do I obtain one of these shifter braces?  My 1997 Standard just turned over 70K miles.  I haven't had any issues with the shift lever thus far and would like to keep it that way.




PM/email Jersey
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

3W-lonerider

#22
got mine installed yesterday with a rattlebars heel to toe shifter.
took some figuring whether i wanted to shim the heel shifter way out or install it behind.
i opted to install the heel to toe shifter behind the main shifter.
since i have an aftermarket shift peg on it was easy.
used a couple of big thin washers and a plastic bushing for the shifter to ride on.
works like a charm.
i'll take pics tonight and post them to this reply.

well i thought i was going to have pics for everyone. but my phone won't link to my pc tonight for some reason.
so i'll have to charge my digital camera up and take some this weekend.
it's 32 degrees in my shed right now. and thats with the heat running.

Jersey

Quote from: 3W-lonerider on Wed 30, Jan 2019, 14:36:46
got mine installed yesterday with a rattlebars heel to toe shifter.
took some figuring whether i wanted to shim the heel shifter way out or install it behind.
i opted to install the heel to toe shifter behind the main shifter.
since i have an aftermarket shift peg on it was easy.
used a couple of big thin washers and a plastic bushing for the shifter to ride on.
works like a charm.
i'll take pics tonight and post them to this reply.

well i thought i was going to have pics for everyone. but my phone won't link to my pc tonight for some reason.
so i'll have to charge my digital camera up and take some this weekend.
it's 32 degrees in my shed right now. and thats with the heat running.

Please!! Send some pictures when you get a chance.  I've had a few ask about using the Jersey Bracket with the H/T shifters.  If I can, I'll make some adjustments for that option to be seemless.

BTW.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all the great feedback.  I really enjoy making things that improve the operation.  LOOK for MORE things in the future!!
Jersey

3W-lonerider

#24
i don't see where your going to be able to make any adjustments for it to work on your end..
because to 2 end up coliding and binding togather.
but there is a way around it. but the person installing it is going to have to make the changes.
i'll post pics this weekend.

3W-lonerider

#25
Seems my pics disappeared. I'll redo it again tomorrow.  
ok we'll try this again







3W-lonerider

hav'nt had a chance to ride yet, but the ease of installation of the shifter mod is great. as far as shifting it from sitting still with and without the engine running has greatly improved.
for the past couple of years, trying to find neutral has become a feat in itself.
i'm interested in seeing if my transmission will continue to jump out of first gear if i don't slam it in.
also going from first to second, if i did'nt slam it, it would jump out of second.
hopefully that greatly improves to.
my hats off to jersey for coming up with a well made product

indybobm

#27
Finally got to ride the bike to check out the Shifter Mod. As I said before, installation was easy and it is a well thought out product.
I am really impressed in the difference it made in shifting. Shifting is solid and almost silent. It is actually  making the gear change quieter. Never really had a problem finding neutral but it is even easier now. I am impressed! Good job Jersey! By the way, that is a leaf by the jack stand, not a dead mouse!

So many roads, so little time
VRCC # 5258

WintrSol

Quote from: indybobm on Sun 03, Feb 2019, 14:19:12
Finally got to ride the bike to check out the Shifter Mod. As I said before, installation was easy and it is a well thought out product.
I am really impressed in the difference it made in shifting. Shifting is solid and almost silent. It is actually  making the gear change quieter. Never really had a problem finding neutral but it is even easier now. I am impressed! Good job Jersey! By the way, that is a leaf by the jack stand, not a dead mouse!


I got my first ride in with the mod today, and agree with all of this. My bike is about to reach 50k miles, so the shifter wasn't that loose, but I can feel the lack of wobble in the end of the shift arm. I mostly had issues with neutral on really hot days, but if the improvement there is as good as it is to basic shifting, this is money well spent. :cooldude:
98 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer
Photo of my FIL Jack, in honor of his WWII service

Jersey

Glad to hear it all went smoothly!!  Only have ONE LEFT of the second round of stock... Going to have to Order more!!
Jersey

Wayn-O

Two questions: 
1) how much?
2) will it work with cbr1100 shifter? 
2000 GL1500C Valkyrie 
2003 VT1100C Shadow Spirit
1998 VT1100C Shadow Spirit
1983 VF750C V45 Magna

Jersey

Quote from: Wayn-O on Mon 04, Feb 2019, 15:00:46
Two questions: 
1) how much?
2) will it work with cbr1100 shifter? 

It's $70 and can be purchased at jerseyMCproducts.com

The Jersey Bracket is designed for the OEM Valkyrie Shifter. So I can't really say how it would fit any others.

Jersey

Harryc

Any idea if this will work with on an Interstate with bigbikethings forward controls?

MarkT

#33
Quote from: Harryc on Mon 11, Feb 2019, 17:40:28
Any idea if this will work with on an Interstate with bigbikethings forward controls?

Not without some mod(s) but this may be trivial with some metalworking tools.  Here's the original Ammpro shifter mod, Jersey's mod is based on, modified slightly to work with BBT fwd controls.  There's a nut welded onto the outer face of the BBT shift lever clamp, coaxially to the shifter shaft, for the allen-headed bolt to screw into. Doesn't actually need much tightening for the Ammpro plate to be fixed to the BBT clamp.  Looks like you would need to provide clearance some way for the aft end of the Jersey arm, where it would collide with the clamp bolts. Note my BBT install is also modified a bit to improve it - note the intermediate connecting link with Heim joints on the ends.  Makes adjustment easier and more solid:



Compare that pic to Indybobm's pic from above:


Vietnam-474 TFW Takhli 9-12/72 Linebckr II;307 SBW U-Tapao 05/73-4


Jersey

Thanks MarkT... that's a great comparison.  The only thing I could see is in having some replacement pieces laser cut to get rid of the corners on the support braces.
Jersey

rockbobmel

I installed mine earlier this year. I had a hell of a time with bolting back the frame/engine guard assembly and getting the shims straight. I swapped back to my truck stack pipes and didn't bother till today to reinstall it.  This time, I loosened the other 2 guard bolts as well. MUCH easier!  and getting the alignment was more straight forward.  Shifting was positive and smoother.   I didn't have any issues after I did it the "smart" way!
2002 Valkyrie GL1500CD
1996  Shadow 1100 ACE

Jersey

Quote from: rockbobmel on Sat 07, Sep 2019, 16:42:19
I installed mine earlier this year. I had a hell of a time with bolting back the frame/engine guard assembly and getting the shims straight. I swapped back to my truck stack pipes and didn't bother till today to reinstall it.  This time, I loosened the other 2 guard bolts as well. MUCH easier!  and getting the alignment was more straight forward.  Shifting was positive and smoother.   I didn't have any issues after I did it the "smart" way!

Glad you got it on!  I installed a number of these at Inzane Taos and found the engines guards 'generally' didn't cause an issue... However, there were a few that needed a little extra push to realign.  One did require loosening up a few other bolts to get it going.  Real glad you are getting good results!
Jersey

Paladin528

This shifter mod drives me nuts.

I installed it a few months back and its driving me crazy.

It used to be that I could hit Neutral on a whim even when I didn't want to.  Now the cursed thing shifts so smoothly I keep going right through Neutral.
Super hard to get used to ;)

Jersey

Quote from: Paladin528 on Mon 16, Sep 2019, 10:43:34
This shifter mod drives me nuts.

I installed it a few months back and its driving me crazy.

It used to be that I could hit Neutral on a whim even when I didn't want to.  Now the cursed thing shifts so smoothly I keep going right through Neutral.
Super hard to get used to ;)

LOL     Experienced that myself... had to learn how to be gentle with the ol' girl.  It's more like caressing than, well... you know.
Jersey