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Okay, that way very good... I laughed, a lot.... I cried like a little bitch, a little...
Grabbing the rest of his movies now, although I've been pre-warned I started with the best, and understand that....
Glad you liked it. Although it does make me feel like your grandpa knowing you never saw it before. As others have mentioned True Grit and The Quiet Man are pretty good also. After that the rest are just so so in my opinion. |
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Ironically. The movie that started his career as a star ,Stage Coach, and his final movie, The Shootist, were his best movies. In my opinion. Although many in between are in second place. After the movie The Big Trail was a flop. He labored in "B" cowboy movies for years before his mentor John Ford gave him his break in Stage Coach. I have read his biography. He was more than what we see on screen. And he was all that we saw on the screen. He was John Wayne.
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Ok, so I’m going to chime in here a little too.
As for Duke dying from cancer,there was a bit of a scandle or maybe some controversy over not just being from cigarettes.
He filmed a movie called the Conqueror in the ‘50’s out in the Nevada desert. Wayne played Genghis Khan. There were hundreds of hours riding horses out in the desert making huge dust clouds.
Apparently the area was just a few miles from a nuclear test area where close to a dozen or so tests were done the year before filming began. If I remember somewhere around 100 people (out of maybe 300 or so) that worked on this movie ended up with different forms of cancer including most of the stars. Some of the dirt from that area of the desert was also shipped back to the studio for additional filming.
Some of my favorite movies of his in no particular order, I’ve watched his movies dozens of times.
The Quiet Man
The War Wagon
The Man who shot Liberty Valance
The Searchers
Rio Bravo (Angie Dickinson in this...Hubba hubba)
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The Duke may not have been the best actor but he made some good movies which I’ve seen many many times. Most of my favorites are the ones with Maureen O’Hara. The were excellent together on the big screen.
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2nd John Wayne move down...
True Grit was my 2nd choice...
And, the whole #MeToo silliness was 50 years behind, that movie was a feminist masterpiece if they'd just lowered their defenses and watched it!
Great movie, loved it, laughed out loud many times....
Not bad for a movie that came out before I was a twinkle in my old man's eye!
Come see a fat old man some time!!!
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Wow....
2nd John Wayne move down...
True Grit was my 2nd choice...
And, the whole #MeToo silliness was 50 years behind, that movie was a feminist masterpiece if they'd just lowered their defenses and watched it!
Great movie, loved it, laughed out loud many times....
Not bad for a movie that came out before I was a twinkle in my old man's eye!
Come see a fat old man some time!!! Oh, my! Is it that old? Are you that young? I feel so ancient. True Grit was one in which he stepped out of his normal character cast roles and showed his real acting ability. Since you're on to the really good, McClintock is a fine selection for next. One of the older ones worth seeing is The Horse Soldiers. You might not appreciate that one as well as it is centered on a Union cavalry unit but it is a great story. The Cowboys is a great movie that will teach you to hate another actor no matter what role he plays. |
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2nd John Wayne move down...
True Grit was my 2nd choice...
And, the whole #MeToo silliness was 50 years behind, that movie was a feminist masterpiece if they'd just lowered their defenses and watched it!
Great movie, loved it, laughed out loud many times....
Not bad for a movie that came out before I was a twinkle in my old man's eye!
Come see a fat old man some time!!! Oh, my! Is it that old? Are you that young? I feel so ancient. True Grit was one in which he stepped out of his normal character cast roles and showed his real acting ability. Since you're on to the really good, McClintock is a fine selection for next. One of the older ones worth seeing is The Horse Soldiers. You might not appreciate that one as well as it is centered on a Union cavalry unit but it is a great story. The Cowboys is a great movie that will teach you to hate another actor no matter what role he plays. With Rspect here-ANY John Wayne flick be worth yer time.  RIDE SAFE. |
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2nd John Wayne move down...
True Grit was my 2nd choice...
And, the whole #MeToo silliness was 50 years behind, that movie was a feminist masterpiece if they'd just lowered their defenses and watched it!
Great movie, loved it, laughed out loud many times....
Not bad for a movie that came out before I was a twinkle in my old man's eye!
Come see a fat old man some time!!! Since you're on to the really good, McClintock is a fine selection for next. One of the older ones worth seeing is The Horse Soldiers. You might not appreciate that one as well as it is centered on a Union cavalry unit but it is a great story. For pure enjoyment, McClintock has it all...Wayne, Maureen OHara, fighting (one of the best fighting scenes in any movie), drinking, and just an overall lighthearted movie-watching experience...and it's a Western!! She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, another Union cavalry story and an older one, is regarded by many as Wayne's best. Many of his older movies are uploaded in good quality on You Tube. I find them much more authentic than newer Westerns...which in my opinion try way too hard, both in terms of acting and story-line. I guess that makes me one of the "older" ones as well... |
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« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2019, 08:30:45 AM » |
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With Rspect here-ANY John Wayne flick be worth yer time.
When I try to go back too far, when he was just in the movie and not
the star, they don't seem so special. Stagecoach is an old one that is
good. I remember liking "3 Godfathers" from 1948. A mix of John Wayne
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does anybody remember the movie he did, where he became wealthy and then became bankrupt and then went back to the steel mill and worked hard and rebuilt himself over again and became a better man? I cannot find it, but remember watching it.
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does anybody remember the movie he did, where he became wealthy and then became bankrupt and then went back to the steel mill and worked hard and rebuilt himself over again and became a better man? I cannot find it, but remember watching it.
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I don't care what century, who names their son Marion? (Marion MITCHELL Morrison)
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I don't care what century, who names their son Marion? (Marion MITCHELL Morrison)
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used less widely as boys' name Marion is of French and Latin origin, and the meaning of Marion is "star of the sea".
Marion reached its peak position of #47 in the U.S. in the 1920s, and is currently at #1449. (TOP BABY NAMES, 2016)
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Loved the Cowboy's, despise Bruce Dern that bastxxd. My 2 guilty pleasures is Hellfighters where Wayne is playing a character based on professional oil well fighter "Red" Adair (who served as technical advisor) and Big Jake. I think it was Johnny Carson I saw Dern on. It was a while after "The Cowboys". He spoke about how killing Duke on screen affected his career. He actually said, "he wished he had passed on the part". I too enjoyed Big Jake. Him and Maureen O'Hara had great chemistry on screen and I'm guessing off! Hard to pick a favorite. Absolutely love his movies! He was larger than life and his movies shot on location in the west I just love. Scenery in True Grit is breathtaking. Wide eyed kid on/in a Saturday matinée, big screen, Duke and the gorgeous scenery  Enjoyed "In Harms Way" for a non western. "Rio Grande" is a favorite with a great cast of usuals and young kids from other families. Always admired how he had on screen regulars that were part of his movie family. Victor McLaglen great character actor as well as Ward Bond, Bruce Cabot all regulars and Harry Carey Jr. |
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I tried to watch Tall In The Saddle last night. It wasn't on Amazon where I
generally stream stuff, but I saw it on youtube for $2.99... unfortunately, it
wouldn't play on FireTV through the Firefox app... Google and Amazon are
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McLintock down, that was entertaining although I wasn't expecting the comedy side of it. Kinda felt like as Blazing Saddles was to blacks, McLintock was to feminism, can't imagine them trying to make that movie today!
I think today's showing will be The Quiet Man, based on a few suggestions earlier in this thread, then we'll take it from there.
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McLintock down, that was entertaining although I wasn't expecting the comedy side of it. Kinda felt like as Blazing Saddles was to blacks, McLintock was to feminism, can't imagine them trying to make that movie today!
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John Wayne is good in it, but The Quiet Man is on my list of all time favorite movies.
Being of Scot and Irish heritage (mostly) the old world flavor and customs and music of Ireland in that movie are wonderful.
My favorite line in the movie is when a lady gives Wayne a branch and tells him ... here's a stick to beat the nice lady with. (He and Maureen O'Hara are fighting again)
And when Barry Fitzgerald (the old matchmaker) sees the broken bed and exclaims..... Impetuous! Homeric!.
And when Ward Bond the Priest tells the people to all line up on the bridge and wave like good protestants (to the visiting Anglican Bishop).
And when Wayne (the ex prizefighter) gets into it with his future brother in law Victor Mclaughlin who says he'll count to three and then sick the dogs on him, and Wayne replies....If you say "three," mister, you'll never hear the man count "ten."
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The Quiet Man was very enjoyable, very much NOT what I was expecting though, but good...
Still finding a bit of culture shock at all the "misogynist" aspects they couldn't dare put in a film these days, unless it was the woman doing those things to the man of course.
But still very good movie, enjoyed it...
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I'll probably go for Green Berets next.
My favorite line in that one is (Wayne to David Janssen the newsman)........ out here mister, due process is a bullet.
I have hundreds of these rattling around in my brain..... but where did I put my F'in eyeglasses?
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The Quiet Man was very enjoyable, very much NOT what I was expecting though, but good...
Still finding a bit of culture shock at all the "misogynist" aspects they couldn't dare put in a film these days, unless it was the woman doing those things to the man of course.
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The Green Berets was on the bill today.
Hate to say it, but that one was painfully awful. I knew going in it was bordering on being propaganda but it was so blatantly obvious it made the movie painful to watch, especially when combined with the outlandish situations, some really poor effects, etc...
But I'm glad I watched it, my experiences are that much more expanded.
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Before watching The Alamo, read up on the history (and expense) that went into making it.
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My Google-Fu says that'd be Pittsburgh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_(1942_film)Thank you. I remember it was a good movie with some great moral teaching. Just finish watching Pittsburgh. Was very good, better than when I watched it in my teens. well worth watching in today's times esp., for young people. picked this collection up so have a few more to watch, since I never saw any of them before. John Wayne: An American Icon Collection 2-Disc Set 5 Movie Collection https://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Wayne-An-American-Icon-Collection-2-Disc-Set-5-Movie-Collection/372167651422?epid=52358049&hash=item56a6ebb05e:m:mqgHqekvtbkuSys-eI4q2CA:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true |
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