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Author Topic: Garage door opener went pffft after 20 years.  (Read 514 times)
John Schmidt
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« on: January 28, 2019, 07:04:25 PM »

I had already replaced the gears in it a few years ago and decided to find out what all the "non-noise" source was. Turned out to be the motor froze up.....gee, only 20 years, piece of junk!  Grin  Headed out to Lowes and bought a new Chamberlain kit, with my veterans discount I got it for $142. The old unit was a Liftmaster, same company as Chamberlain, the Liftmaster is essentially for professional installers. Chamberlain is the DIY type such as myself. The nice thing about all this....the chain drive and the rail it rides on bolts directly to the new unit so I didn't have to replace everything. Just needed to remove two bolts and the rail is free from the old unit, reattach in the same manner to the new and feed the chain around the sprocket after loosening it a bit. Now for the fun part; when I had my gall bladder surgery earlier this month they must have dragged me around the OR by the neck because ever since, my neck muscles have been extremely painful, and my neck vertebrae are now popping with every move which it didn't do before. Result....it's difficult to raise my head enough to actually look at something overhead. Lifting the rather minor weight of the old/new units was a painful effort so I had to devise a method to help handle the weight without straining the neck. The ceiling braces to which the unit is attached are simple angle iron with numerous holes in them. I got out a couple good bungee cords and hooked them to the upper holes in the braces and to some extra mounting holes on the old unit. Unbolted it while on a stepladder and let it drop, at which point it just hung there bouncing up/down on the bungees about shoulder high. Back on the floor, I set it on the step ladder tool shelf and unbolted the chain rail then slid it off onto the floor. The new one was not nearly as heavy so was able to lift it shoulder high without much neck pain, reattached the chain rail, then got back on the ladder. Placing a towel for padding on the top of the ladder, I was able to "curl" the new unit into place with one arm while slipping the bolts into place on the ceiling brackets with the other hand. Installed the chain and tightened it back to the original setting. Now all I needed was the Jolly Green Giant to come and string the wires from the new safety lights....up the walls, across the ceiling, and down to the motor. No matter how high I went on the ladder, I couldn't tip my head back far enough to work overhead and do it without loads of pain across the neck and shoulders. Solution.....granddaughter's husband. A good ol' boy, about 6'4", easily busts 300lbs., still likes to chew and spit but has a heart of gold. We spent Saturday afternoon stringing those wires and programming everything, all the time he was only standing on the bottom step of the step ladder. Afterward we ordered three large pizzas which turned out to be a good thing, that left two of them for the rest of us! He had worked up an appetite.  2funny  Now all I have to do is get a special piece to mount on the wall so the built-in remote in the car will work even though it did work with the old unit. Guess I'll also have to change the remote I have wired into the bike so my hidden button will work again. Probably do that on my next day off.  Wink
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cookiedough
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 03:35:48 AM »

My old stanley garage door opener lasted 25 years or so before the plastic gears broke in the VERY cold frigid temps a few years ago.   Also, got a chamberlain unit but one with an app feature for cell phone to open/close and check on anytime when and how long garage door opener is open/close.  Also got belt drive vs. chain so had to replace entire track, etc..

Took most of an entire day doing it myself and found the hardest part was holding new unit up while bolting it in place on the angle iron up top.  Surely would help with another person for sure just holding the unit since had to bend the angle iron a few inches to make the new unit fit since different sized. 

Yah,  those wiring to new sensors by garage door on each side and garage push button unit took a few hours as well, easy, but time consuming to tack up all that new wiring as well as making new sensors fit where old, smaller door sensors were.   Then, of course, the very next year,  the old 25+ year old vinyl garage door snapped/broke in the connector groove (also in winter) due to age and bitter winter cold.    That one I left to a pro to do though since was cold in winter also and he knew what he was doing taking only 4 hours or so total tops.  Hoping BOTH last me another 25 years...
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 05:27:48 AM »

My great grandson was "supervising" while we put up the wiring. Kid darn near took his dad's fingers off when he started playing with the remote and his dad was working the stud finder to find a rafter for nailing up those wires. He was holding on to the chain rail for balance while reaching up with the stud finder on the ceiling. The kid is 9 yrs. old and thought he wasn't going to get any older for a couple minutes....dad was a mite irritated.

I opted for the unit without the extra stuff for using the phone, if I decide I want it I can buy an extra piece of electronics that will do the same thing. Like you said, if it lasts another 20 yrs. I won't know about it 'cuz I'll not be around.
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MAD6Gun
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 09:25:20 AM »

 I feel your pain John...

 My 20+ year old Lift master screw drive stopped working last summer. My stepson went to open it. It moved a few inches then stopped and made a grinding noise. The plastic coupler between the motor and the drive broke. I was able to find a local garage door company that had three of the obsolete couplers (they don't make the screwdrive anymore). My stepson Anthony helped me disassemble the unit and install the new coupler. I had to go to a dentist appt so Anthony said he would finish bolting it in place and reinstalling the sensor wires. On my way home I called my wife to see if he got it done. She said sorta and would explain when I got home. I'm thinking OK what could have gone wrong. I get home and Anthony explains when he got everything hooked back up and plugged it in smoke came out of the side of the unti. Well crap. I found that he had hooked up the sensor wire backwards. I guess the picture I took of the wires before I took it apart was not good enough.

  He felt bad and said he would buy me a new door opener. Now I'm not one to give up easily so we took it apart. I used a magnifying glass and inspected the circuit board near the sensor wire hookups. I found a small diode burned in half,bingo. New circuit boards are obsolete and non existing. What to do? Radio shack is gone but we have a DIY electronics store in FW. Went and bought a pack of two diodes. Unsoldered broken diode,soldered in the new one. Reassemble and viola,a working 20 years old opener. Total cost for opener repair less then 12 bucks...
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Ken aka Oil Burner
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 04:00:05 PM »

I watched a This Old House episode where they installed a belt-drive garage opener in place of a burned out unit. I think I'll wait until they've been out awhile before I'll consider it, but it sure was quiet.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 04:37:04 PM »

I'm still messing with mine trying to get the remote in the car to be recognized. So far....no joy! What kinda bugs me is the instructions that came with the unit don't seem to do what they say it will do. And when I go on You Tube it really gets confusing, you can watch five different videos and get five different methods that are "fool proof" approaches to programming the car remote. I'm getting $500 worth of aggravation trying to get it to work....in an effort to keep from spending $28 for the Compatibility Bridge. Never said I was smart, just persistent.  Grin

And cheap!
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cookiedough
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 04:42:25 PM »

belt vs. chain, really does not matter much I think, both are fine and will or should last the same 20+ years since normally those 2 items will outlast whatever else will go wrong with the unit itself.

speaking of garage doors,  now having issues just tonight is -3 degrees with brutal 25+ mph winds and windchill now -25 or so suppose to be -50 wind chill by morning.  I got home and door opened just fine, but went to use the house remote mounted on the wall by the door entrance in garage and was NOT lit up and did not work.  WHY??  too COLD???  I had to use the outside garage wall unit which lit up and worked to close the garage door.

when it rains, it pours???  Sure hope is a fluke since I think the remotes only have a 1 year warranty and I think that is up?  I guess I can try opening it in the morning using my cell phone app by Chamberlain?  OR, just stay home from work like over 1/2 the office is tomorrow NOT coming in since -50 or more windchill is dangerous.
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