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« on: February 01, 2019, 10:00:48 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/JakeMHoffman/videos/2745280835697566/UzpfSTEwMDAwMTE2ODAyMjA1MToxOTU0NjMzODU0NTg1NTMw/
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2019, 10:36:12 AM »

I literally felt sick to my stomach when listening to that.
And that is second trimester, not full term like they just legalized.

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2019, 11:54:19 AM »

so this tells me if i want to kill someone i should rip them apart limb by limp instead shooting them with a gun 
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2019, 03:59:04 PM »

In the debate Trump nailed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfwA4XYXMrQ
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2019, 04:43:11 PM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2019, 05:01:52 PM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.



That is exactly what he was doing. There are longer videos that show him talking about his daughter and that she died and he is no longer an abortion doctor.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2019, 05:06:01 PM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.



Won’t suggest he isn’t bias’d.
The procedure is, what it is.

Tell us a kinder and gentler way to kill a child...

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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2019, 07:48:30 PM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2019, 12:43:58 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.



 And it didn't on you? What kind of person wouldn't find that description brutal? What kind of a person would think that procedure is ok?  How sad of you......
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2019, 06:45:09 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2019, 06:59:32 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).




shutdown was caused by baltimore crime family member nancy. she refused to bring a bill to the President whereas he would have signed it or vetoed it. She and congress never did what they were suppose to do per law.  shutdown was because of her if u understand how the govt works.
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2019, 08:01:43 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).

you need to get you head screwed on boy.  was not talking about government shutdown sounds like a personal problem.  if this ack is not mudder than what is mudder you tell me and everyone else if you can scooperhead
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2019, 08:38:09 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).

you need to get you head screwed on boy.  was not talking about government shutdown sounds like a personal problem.  if this ack is not mudder than what is mudder you tell me and everyone else if you can scooperhead

The problem was caused by both of them not doing their jobs.

As far as needing my head screwed on - look at yourself first. I KNOW how our government is supposed to work - right now It's not , IN MY OPINION. Too much political grandstanding and too little compromise on passing essential legislation. And then hurting those who have no effect on it.


As far as abortion - it is what it is. We might agree more than you think. Continue your work towards getting rid of it (if you can). But all of you misquoting wannabe bible scholars need to really read and understand what you're quoting and leave it out of the discussion if you really want your turning it back to pass.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2019, 08:44:56 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).

you need to get you head screwed on boy.  was not talking about government shutdown sounds like a personal problem.  if this ack is not mudder than what is mudder you tell me and everyone else if you can scooperhead

The problem was caused by both of them not doing their jobs.


incorrect! the President IS doing his job. the nancy congress is not. she is doing the same thing/s to make the President look bad like she did when she took over during Bush Jrs term.   She is following UN 2030 agenda. u should read up on it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2019, 01:43:35 PM »

That is truth.  Look at members of congress, both democrats and republicans, that took trips or had trip scheduled during the "Shut down".  It is hard to hold them accountable because they wield such power and can "buy" votes in their districts.  

But we are responsible for not holding  our elected officials accountable.  Its hard to do but it has to be done.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2019, 01:55:01 PM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).

you need to get you head screwed on boy.  was not talking about government shutdown sounds like a personal problem.  if this ack is not mudder than what is mudder you tell me and everyone else if you can scooperhead

The problem was caused by both of them not doing their jobs.

As far as needing my head screwed on - look at yourself first. I KNOW how our government is supposed to work - right now It's not , IN MY OPINION. Too much political grandstanding and too little compromise on passing essential legislation. And then hurting those who have no effect on it.


As far as abortion - it is what it is. We might agree more than you think. Continue your work towards getting rid of it (if you can). But all of you misquoting wannabe bible scholars need to really read and understand what you're quoting and leave it out of the discussion if you really want your turning it back to pass.


How was the shutdown caused by both of them??? Who stayed in DC while others went to Hawaii to vacation, went to Puerto Rico to party, and tried to leave the country, on our dime, on military aircraft, with an entourage, for an around the world "Summit Meeting". and to "visit the troops", something she has never done in her lifetime??
And to this day, one side still will not come to the table and negotiate.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2019, 02:30:49 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2019, 02:46:25 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

Maybe because it is all fabricated in your mind?
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2019, 03:10:11 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

You'll never get it through their heads.
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2019, 03:16:21 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

You'll never get it through their heads.


u should first look into the mirror and educate yourself how the govt works. And to help you on your way, CNN is not an educational tool.
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2019, 05:14:39 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

You'll never get it through their heads.


u should first look into the mirror and educate yourself how the govt works. And to help you on your way, CNN is not an educational tool.

Neither is FAux or OAN...
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2019, 05:41:37 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

I do see the presidents role in the shutdown,

 He wants a wall to protect our country, to keep the promise he made to the American people who asked for a wall. The Dems do not want the wall in any form so the president could not walk that through Congress, so he held his ground, seems pretty clear.

Am I missing something?

In the negotiating process the Dems rejected every offer if it had a wall in it, so now we will get it by emergency action. It shows the Dems in a very bad light.

BTW it was a partial, not a full shut down and the Coast Guard was paid also, again thanks to Trump.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2019, 05:56:35 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

I do see the presidents role in the shutdown,

 He wants a wall to protect our country, to keep the promise he made to the American people who asked for a wall. The Dems do not want the wall in any form so the president could not walk that through Congress, so he held his ground, seems pretty clear.

Am I missing something?

In the negotiating process the Dems rejected every offer if it had a wall in it, so now we will get it by emergency action. It shows the Dems in a very bad light.

BTW it was a partial, not a full shut down and the Coast Guard was paid also, again thanks to Trump.
I'm not sure where you get your info. The Coast Guard recieved no pay during the shutdown.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2019, 06:03:33 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

I do see the presidents role in the shutdown,

 He wants a wall to protect our country, to keep the promise he made to the American people who asked for a wall. The Dems do not want the wall in any form so the president could not walk that through Congress, so he held his ground, seems pretty clear.

Am I missing something?

In the negotiating process the Dems rejected every offer if it had a wall in it, so now we will get it by emergency action. It shows the Dems in a very bad light.

BTW it was a partial, not a full shut down and the Coast Guard was paid also, again thanks to Trump.
I'm not sure where you get your info. The Coast Guard recieved no pay during the shutdown.

Washington Secrets
Trump personally intervened to pay Coast Guard in shutdown

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trump-personally-intervened-to-pay-coast-guard-in-shutdown

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/423239-trump-cites-great-work-by-administration-on-emergency-coast-guard-pay

Coast Guard members will get paid next week, despite the government shutdown

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/12/29/coast-guard-members-will-get-paid-next-week-despite-the-government-shutdown/

I could go on but I think this does it, it begs the question why didn't you know about this, and where are you getting your information from since its pretty widely known, yet you stated pretty assuredly that they were not?
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2019, 06:33:58 PM »

If you can't see the President's role in the shutdown then I can't explain it to you....

I do see the presidents role in the shutdown,

 He wants a wall to protect our country, to keep the promise he made to the American people who asked for a wall. The Dems do not want the wall in any form so the president could not walk that through Congress, so he held his ground, seems pretty clear.

Am I missing something?

In the negotiating process the Dems rejected every offer if it had a wall in it, so now we will get it by emergency action. It shows the Dems in a very bad light.

BTW it was a partial, not a full shut down and the Coast Guard was paid also, again thanks to Trump.
I'm not sure where you get your info. The Coast Guard recieved no pay during the shutdown.

Washington Secrets
Trump personally intervened to pay Coast Guard in shutdown

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trump-personally-intervened-to-pay-coast-guard-in-shutdown

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/423239-trump-cites-great-work-by-administration-on-emergency-coast-guard-pay

Coast Guard members will get paid next week, despite the government shutdown

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/12/29/coast-guard-members-will-get-paid-next-week-despite-the-government-shutdown/

I could go on but I think this does it, it begs the question why didn't you know about this, and where are you getting your information from since its pretty widely known, yet you stated pretty assuredly that they were not?
They recieved a paycheck 9 days after the shutdown and no more after that. If you want to believe Trump paid them and that the members of the Coast Guard and its Commandant were lying, so be it.
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2019, 07:15:45 PM »

According to the press release, you can expect to get paid on Dec. 31 if you meet the following criteria:

    If you were an active duty military member in December, then you will receive your monthly paycheck on Dec. 31, 2018. That paycheck will include all of the normal pay and allowance benefits (e.g. basic pay, BAH, BAS, etc.).
    If you were a reservist that served on active duty during the month of December, you will also receive your monthly paycheck on Dec. 31, 2018 and it will include all of your normal pay and allowance entitlements.
    Finally, if you were a reservist that conducted reserve training prior to Dec. 21, 2018, then you will receive the appropriate pay and allowance entitlements on Dec. 31, 2018.

However, the release states that this "one-time approval" only covers that Dec. 31 paycheck — there's no guarantee of pay on Jan. 15, 2019 should the government shutdown continue to that point.

On January 25th Trump opened the government again meaning the Jan 15th pay was delayed 10 days. So their next pay check from December would have been Jan 15th. If you would like to read more then here it is right from the Coast Gaurd. At this time they also received the back pay that they were due during those days.

http://allhands.coastguard.dodlive.mil/2018/12/28/government-shutdown-faqs-cgma-loan-information/


So why did you not hear that they were paid and what Trump did to get them paid? I dont say anyone was lying but its not quite as dramatic as you and the news make it sound and it also quite strange that you or the news never really mentioned that Trump got them paid on Dec 31st.

I did not see any Democrats making any attempt at getting anyone paid, but I did see vacations and travel at government expense by those same Democrats that actually did not stay in Washington and negotiate in good faith.
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2019, 01:31:42 AM »

who owns the media?....
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2019, 04:12:50 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).



This type of response is commonly referred to a deflection or distraction from the original topic.  

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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2019, 04:20:09 AM »

To me, it sounded like he was telling the ones holding his hearing what happens during the 2nd trimester abortion, emphasis on making it sound gross and brutal. Almost more of an anti abortion presentation. Sounds like it had that desired effect on some of you.




how is murder of an innocent life not sound gross and brutal?   you need to self reflect if it doesn't affect you IMO

If I need to do some self reflection because the description of the procedure didn't do that much to me, maybe alot of you need to do the same on what Trump's government shutdown effect / potential effect if it would have gone any longer on 800,000 + federal employees who had nothing to do with why the shutdown happened. I wouldn't have been surprised if we were a week away from massive sickouts from "essential" government employees. They were already starting to happen. Over half the IRS workers who were called back couldn't make it in due to hardship (transportation and child care expense, etc.).





Talk about changing the subject.
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2019, 04:42:24 AM »

who owns the media?....

Exactly, but as time goes on I am amazed at the lack of critical thinking and the finding of facts. The media lately deals in half truths which is by far the hardest to extrapolate the truth out of. The media is like the ripples on top of the water but show nothing of the current and movements below the surface. We as a population only see the surface in many cases the ones that are truly woke are the ones that put on their snorkel and mask and dig for truth.

Even on this topic what is the real rally cry behind abortion? Does anyone really think that a Congress and mayors that cannot protect the US with a wall give a dam about you or your baby? How can anyone who values life say its ok to kill, and dismember a baby just before or after its born seeing that life and knowing that life not regard it as valuable. Its helpless, innocent, not able to protect itself and the dr took an oath to protect life and the mother goes against all instincts and KILLS her own child. That is a sick and twisted society, akin and on the road to Sodom and Gomorrah.

 Its an excuse and a distraction from the real topic so we all get caught up in the moment and issue rather than the real intent. It helps to fight among each other like throwing food in a crowd of hungry people and watching them fight and laughing at the mayhem that ensues. It helps to further the agenda that is at the for front of this movement.

Trump knew what Hillary wanted on abortion and pegged it at the debates, how is it that we now have what Hillary endorsed and was for?

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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2019, 04:56:07 AM »


who owns the media?....

ad salesmen, mostly...



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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2019, 05:08:09 AM »

If you undermine the base and the values that this country was founded on then anything goes, as we see today. For 150 years there was this that ruled the US.

       In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread sovereign lord King James, by the grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.

    Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our king and country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, covenant, and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic, for our better ordering and preservation, and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony: unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names; Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our sovereign lord King James, of England, France and Ireland eighteenth and of Scotland fifty-fourth, Anno Domini 1620.

This and the Bible ruled the colony and served as the basis of this country. Values do change as time goes on but I say our values have not gotten better or wiser only more accepting of some very corrupt and evil ways and have left us almost not knowing right and wrong.

In a corporation you have a vision statement, which is the idea, basis, and direction a business should take. This vision statement was the Mayflower Compact, modified in the Constitution and Bill of Rights but now thinking that man knows better has trampled these vision statements of the US under foot. Basic values have been lost on some the will and understanding of when to do right has been lost in some because, these are the ones that look at today and say what can I get and those that prey on the lack of understanding of these microwave people and have their own agenda.

Like a statue with clay feet it will eventually fall. Much of this following the wrong path and the deception was not the people it was elected officials that have no or limited accountability corrupting a system of government that was formed thinking men had rights established by God and that they could and should not be taken away by man. That inside of each man there was the wish and right to do good for his fellow man. This has been largely surpassed with a plan and purpose to make man a slave to the ones that are criminal or ruling much as the day of the kings.
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2019, 05:03:51 PM »

I got a chuckle out of local news interviews with Government employees put on furlough saying they were having to sell cars and jewelry to feed there kids after missing one paycheck. ..... seems they were/are living beyond their means. True?
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2019, 10:01:41 PM »

I got a chuckle out of local news interviews with Government employees put on furlough saying they were having to sell cars and jewelry to feed there kids after missing one paycheck. ..... seems they were/are living beyond their means. True?

True? Who knows?

Maybe, or maybe they live in a high cost of living area. Maybe their "Government" job isn't the highest paying job out there.

What's the most telling is that you "got a chuckle" out of this story. What does that say about you as a person?
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