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« on: February 21, 2019, 07:42:37 AM » |
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How about that SCOTUS ruling on civil asset forfeiture? It's not often the court agrees 9-0 on anything. There have been some horrible abuses of these laws, like people losing their home because a grandson living in the basement sold some pot.
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ridingron
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2019, 07:44:52 AM » |
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It's about time! A county or two here in Florida was infamous for misuse of the law. Mostly along the I-95 corridor.
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Serk
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2019, 07:56:27 AM » |
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Policing for Fun and Profit degrades the respect of police in general, and should have been ended long ago.
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ |
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2019, 07:57:04 AM » |
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How bout maybe uncivil asses?  RIDE SAFE. |
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 08:37:58 AM » |
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Civil asset forfeiture is a very good thing.... for organized crime, corporate drug smuggling, RICO law stuff.
But for Harry Homeowner it has often been a "taking without due process of law." IE theft.
I haven't read the SCOTUS decision, but what has to stop is taking from citizens with no due process proof or showing of the forfeited assets being an actual part of a criminal enterprise, BEFORE the taking.
Forcing someone to spend $10K over a period of years to get money (or property) back is Stalinist corruption of the worst kind.
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Oss
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 09:19:17 AM » |
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A person trying to get sex to go can lose her car
(gender equality)
A person trying to buy a doobie or whatever drug can lose her car
A person driving home after a couple of beers can lose her car
The list goes on..............
My problem begins with the fact the seizure is immediate and not something that happens after a trial and conviction not that the asset forfeiture is a slippery slope in itself
i agree with scotus and Jess
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 10:25:36 AM » |
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You know, even if they caught you packing in 300lbs of weed on donkeys down your way, they wouldn't probably forfeit your asses.
No self respecting border patrolman wants to be seen riding around on one of those.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2019, 10:32:03 AM » |
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I believe the decision on this was that the value of the forfeiture could not exceed the value of the fine.
The case revolved around a drug deal where the fine was to be $10k and the forfeiture was a $43,000 + Land Rover.
SCOTUS said you can't do that.
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F6Dave
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2019, 10:38:22 AM » |
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 Like this ? How's the riding weather down there? I see I-40 is closed due to snow just north of Yucca. |
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The emperor has no clothes
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2019, 10:39:20 AM » |
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Like this ? How's the riding weather down there? I see I-40 is closed due to snow just north of Yucca. Cold and wet today. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2019, 11:22:30 AM » |
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F6Dave: Snow levels down to 3,000' elevation. But the news just reported snow at 2,500' We're running 20deg below normal and more rain than normal this winter.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2019, 01:18:43 PM » |
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Like this ? Looks like a family reunion of my former in-laws.  |
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2019, 02:15:13 PM » |
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Like this ? How's the riding weather down there? I see I-40 is closed due to snow just north of Yucca. Snow on the ground in Kingman Dan |
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Do it while you can. I did.... it my way
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da prez
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2019, 02:18:50 PM » |
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Pappy always said that an asset was a chair.
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