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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2019, 09:47:47 AM »


Does anyone find it interesting that there was no one defending, just being focused on attacking Cohen?

ticktock
Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  Shocked When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ?

Wow. That is pretty racist of you. Really? "trotted out" a black person? Is that how you saw that woman? Lynne Patton has got a resume that is first rate. Look it up and have some respect. Her opinion of Trump is based on experience. She was there at the invitation of the Senator, an invitation she accepted because she knows the accusations of racism and misogyny against Trump are ridiculous and abjectly false and was there to stand up for him.

Pretty damn admirable in my book.

You want racist? Hillary Clinton praising the likes of the late Robert Byrd, the Senator and Klansman.
There is the lost argument.

definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use


Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there.



  So Rob, give us some proof of Trump's racism. Not your "opinion" or the democrat rhetoric. Show us proof. Like some of the Clinton racist statements stated above by 98Valk.  I want undisputed proof. Come on Rob. Enlighten us...

Starting to go blue in the face. Can I hold my breath much longer  Grin
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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2019, 09:48:25 AM »



I always knew something was off about him.


What took you so long?

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2019, 09:54:55 AM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?


Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.

Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)
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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2019, 09:59:59 AM »

"definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use


Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there."


I hope you aren't going to say she needs to get back on the plantation, because that seems to be where you seem to be going with this.
Seriously, dude, you are not furthering your reputation with this thread.  You sound like an uber-racist trying his best to not sound like one.
"There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black."
It sounds like you are saying she's not a person, but a black Trump worker.  Racist and dehumanizing.


You may try to put words in my mouth as you wish. I said nothing of the sort. As far as my reputation here, I'm fine being judged, labeled, attacked. I will let my words speak for themselves.
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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2019, 10:05:54 AM »


So what exactly would you say if you were accused of being racist?

I was watching something on youtube about this fellow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_Redstone

He is in poor health now, he can only communicate with an iPad that
has three responses.

Yes. No. And F-You.

I'd need one of those  2funny

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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2019, 10:06:30 AM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?


Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.

Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)

 Nice deflection... OK maybe you didn't say it but I bet dollars to donuts you believe it. Nor have you ever disputed it either. Cohen did yes and so did most of the Democratic side. But you still haven't answered my question with proof. I won't hold my breath like Britman.
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2019, 10:06:51 AM »

definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use

To which is only possible if you own it or control it.
Hence the racist usage.
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2019, 10:07:31 AM »


So what exactly would you say if you were accused of being racist?

I was watching something on youtube about this fellow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_Redstone

He is in poor health now, he can only communicate with an iPad that
has three responses.

Yes. No. And F-You.

I'd need one of those  2funny

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« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2019, 10:13:20 AM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?


Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.

Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)

 Nice deflection... OK maybe you didn't say it but I bet dollars to donuts you believe it. Nor have you ever disputed it either. Cohen did yes and so did most of the Democratic side. But you still haven't answered my question with proof. I won't hold my breath like Britman.
I guess you are unwilling to look it up for yourself. Here you go.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html?utm_term=.cf2bc73d12c4
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« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2019, 10:17:38 AM »

definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use

To which is only possible if you own it or control it.
Hence the racist usage.
Not true. The expression is used in many ways. Example :
Was it really necessary to trot out the same old stereotypes about Ireland?
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« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2019, 10:27:05 AM »

"definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use


Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there."


I hope you aren't going to say she needs to get back on the plantation, because that seems to be where you seem to be going with this.
Seriously, dude, you are not furthering your reputation with this thread.  You sound like an uber-racist trying his best to not sound like one.
"There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black."
It sounds like you are saying she's not a person, but a black Trump worker.  Racist and dehumanizing.


You may try to put words in my mouth as you wish. I said nothing of the sort. As far as my reputation here, I'm fine being judged, labeled, attacked. I will let my words speak for themselves.

I didn't put words in your mouth. I merely read what you posted and made the determination that you don't like blacks who think different than you.  Look up Candace Owens and her BLEXIT campaign, she makes this very clear.
I have always believed the biggest racists out there are the ultra-left Dems.  It's not overt racism as it once was (Sen Byrd being a KKK recruiter and totally non-repentant to his dying days comes to mind) , it's insidious; it sidles up to you and smiles.  They act like a friend.  Until that time comes that the blacks are no longer useful to their cause.  Then they have all sorts of venom for them.  That is the most scary of racism right there.
The overt racists, the KKK and White Power people are all bluster, but total cowards (the KKK has not been a cohesive force for decades, but those ultra-lefts will have one believe they are hiding in every closet and under every bed).  The ultra-left Dems (not all dems, of course, not even the majority), they are the truly dangerous ones.  They are in it for the long haul with their insidious ways.  They have patience.  To show how patient they are, look up Margaret Sanger.   Her followers have actually convinced a lot of blacks that aborting their children is in their own best interest.  
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« Reply #51 on: February 28, 2019, 10:29:51 AM »

definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use

To which is only possible if you own it or control it.
Hence the racist usage.
Not true. The expression is used in many ways. Example :
Was it really necessary to trot out the same old stereotypes about Ireland?

Nice attempt at back peddling.
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« Reply #52 on: February 28, 2019, 10:40:42 AM »


What else was noticed in this hearing was there was NO interruptions, no infantile signs either

You were saying? I guess we have different ideas of infantile.....



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« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2019, 10:43:48 AM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?


How'd you make out with that sodomy charge?
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« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2019, 11:57:33 AM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?


Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.

Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)

 Nice deflection... OK maybe you didn't say it but I bet dollars to donuts you believe it. Nor have you ever disputed it either. Cohen did yes and so did most of the Democratic side. But you still haven't answered my question with proof. I won't hold my breath like Britman.
I guess you are unwilling to look it up for yourself. Here you go.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html?utm_term=.cf2bc73d12c4

 Washington post. There is a unbiased source, NOT. Got anything from this century?
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« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2019, 12:13:44 PM »


I am one who is unwilling to "look up for myself" the background for ludicrous claims but since you posted the link I took the time to read it.  Following is a quote from the biased article.

Quote
“This suit was brought as part of a nationwide inquiry against a number of companies, and the matter was ultimately settled without any finding of liability and without any admission of wrongdoing whatsoever,” Garten said.


So it appears you are leaning upon as evidence a 45 year old accusation that was not proven.  Not only is that weak; it is totally unbelievable.  For what it's worth, 45 years ago I was a physically fit Marine trained and capable of killing in a heartbeat.  No one has recently accused me of being that.
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« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2019, 12:19:35 PM »

You chose  1 paragraph out of 3 pages. There is much more. Here is a snippet.
Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to “Jews and Executives” and “discouraged rental to blacks.” The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that “a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”

Other rental agents employed by the Trumps told the FBI that only 1 percent of tenants at the Trump-run Ocean Terrace Apartments were black, and that there were no black tenants at Lincoln Shore Apartments. Both were on Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. However, minorities were steered to a different complex on Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, Patio Gardens, which was 40 percent black, the government said.


Trump and his lawyer decided to settle.
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« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2019, 12:26:56 PM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?



Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.


Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)


 Nice deflection... OK maybe you didn't say it but I bet dollars to donuts you believe it. Nor have you ever disputed it either. Cohen did yes and so did most of the Democratic side. But you still haven't answered my question with proof. I won't hold my breath like Britman.
I guess you are unwilling to look it up for yourself. Here you go.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html?utm_term=.cf2bc73d12c4


 Washington post. There is a unbiased source, NOT. Got anything from this century?
Do you also view Fortune as biased ?
http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/
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« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2019, 12:35:41 PM »

...
Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)
...
 I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. ..

Apparently, Rob, you do not fully understand the use of the English (American English) language.  By referencing the 1973 lawsuit in conjunction with the statement that a person's indicate his racism you did indeed by implication call President Trump a racist.

In the following quote you clearly stated that as soon as someone references that he has other racial friends he has lost the argument against his racism.  That too would amount to calling President Trump a racist or at the very least saying the participants in the discussion were unable to show that he's not a racist.

Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  Shocked When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ?
 
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« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2019, 12:40:09 PM »

definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use

To which is only possible if you own it or control it.
Hence the racist usage.
Not true. The expression is used in many ways. Example :
Was it really necessary to trot out the same old stereotypes about Ireland?

Dude, you should really stop digging when you are in the hole.

Bashing the Irish now? Attempting to prove the point you are not racist? What stereotypes about Ireland?

You were discussing trotting out a black person. As if to say she was somehow owned.

You picked the way you used it.
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« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2019, 12:43:55 PM »

You chose  1 paragraph out of 3 pages. There is much more. Here is a snippet.
Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to “Jews and Executives” and “discouraged rental to blacks.” The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that “a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”

Other rental agents employed by the Trumps told the FBI that only 1 percent of tenants at the Trump-run Ocean Terrace Apartments were black, and that there were no black tenants at Lincoln Shore Apartments. Both were on Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. However, minorities were steered to a different complex on Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, Patio Gardens, which was 40 percent black, the government said.

Trump and his lawyer decided to settle.

Donald Trump was one of a group of defendants.  Defendants don't choose to settle.  They choose to accept the settlement offered by the prosecution.  Once more, the settlement was granted "without admission of guilt".  What you are referencing is a he said she said of witnesses in a case that did not result in a finding of guilt.

The other point that blew past you is that it was 45 years ago.  If that's the best one can come up with to prove that someone is (present tense) a racist then one is grasping at pieces of fading straws.  
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« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2019, 12:44:15 PM »

It's like watching a little child screaming having a temper tantrum.

Really quite pathetic.
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« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2019, 12:45:15 PM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?



Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.


Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)


 Nice deflection... OK maybe you didn't say it but I bet dollars to donuts you believe it. Nor have you ever disputed it either. Cohen did yes and so did most of the Democratic side. But you still haven't answered my question with proof. I won't hold my breath like Britman.
I guess you are unwilling to look it up for yourself. Here you go.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html?utm_term=.cf2bc73d12c4


 Washington post. There is a unbiased source, NOT. Got anything from this century?
Do you also view Fortune as biased ?
http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/


I would find this article from Fortune to be more believable if the author of the piece didn't have a book released (just a couple weeks after this opinion piece was written) called "The Truth About Trump".  
Do you think he might have been trying to peddle his book?
Face it, many Dems, even the ones in Hollywood, loved Trump.  Until he beat their girl Hillary in a fair election.  The media loved him, too.  Until he ran as a Republican and left them with egg on their face.  The Dems have an axe to grind.   They rigged the primaries to get Hillary elected and she got a historical beat down.  The press is mad because they looked like fools, the DNC is madder because they got beat after they tried to rig the election.
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« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2019, 12:47:42 PM »

definition of trot out :
: to bring forward for display or use

To which is only possible if you own it or control it.
Hence the racist usage.
Not true. The expression is used in many ways. Example :
Was it really necessary to trot out the same old stereotypes about Ireland?

Dude, you should really stop digging when you are in the hole.

Bashing the Irish now? Attempting to prove the point you are not racist? What stereotypes about Ireland?

You were discussing trotting out a black person. As if to say she was somehow owned.

You picked the way you used it.

At this point he is so deep in a hole he is going to need a 50 foot ladder just to see sunlight.
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« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2019, 12:51:46 PM »

You chose  1 paragraph out of 3 pages. There is much more. Here is a snippet.
Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to “Jews and Executives” and “discouraged rental to blacks.” The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that “a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”

Other rental agents employed by the Trumps told the FBI that only 1 percent of tenants at the Trump-run Ocean Terrace Apartments were black, and that there were no black tenants at Lincoln Shore Apartments. Both were on Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. However, minorities were steered to a different complex on Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, Patio Gardens, which was 40 percent black, the government said.

Trump and his lawyer decided to settle.

Donald Trump was one of a group of defendants.  Defendants don't choose to settle.  They choose to accept the settlement offered by the prosecution.  Once more, the settlement was granted "without admission of guilt".  What you are referencing is a he said she said of witnesses in a case that did not result in a finding of guilt.

The other point that blew past you is that it was 45 years ago.  If that's the best one can come up with to prove that someone is (present tense) a racist than one is grasping at pieces of fading straws.  
I understood it was 45 years ago. I also understand most people who are willing to discriminate don’t usually change in their entire life.
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« Reply #65 on: February 28, 2019, 12:55:33 PM »

You chose  1 paragraph out of 3 pages. There is much more. Here is a snippet.
Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to “Jews and Executives” and “discouraged rental to blacks.” The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that “a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”

Other rental agents employed by the Trumps told the FBI that only 1 percent of tenants at the Trump-run Ocean Terrace Apartments were black, and that there were no black tenants at Lincoln Shore Apartments. Both were on Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. However, minorities were steered to a different complex on Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, Patio Gardens, which was 40 percent black, the government said.

Trump and his lawyer decided to settle.

Donald Trump was one of a group of defendants.  Defendants don't choose to settle.  They choose to accept the settlement offered by the prosecution.  Once more, the settlement was granted "without admission of guilt".  What you are referencing is a he said she said of witnesses in a case that did not result in a finding of guilt.

The other point that blew past you is that it was 45 years ago.  If that's the best one can come up with to prove that someone is (present tense) a racist than one is grasping at pieces of fading straws.  
I understood it was 45 years ago. I also understand most people who are willing to discriminate don’t usually change in their entire life.

Certainly was true in Sen Robert Byrd's case!
Doesn't mean it's true for all people.

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« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2019, 12:59:20 PM »

You chose  1 paragraph out of 3 pages. There is much more. Here is a snippet.
Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to “Jews and Executives” and “discouraged rental to blacks.” The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that “a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”

Other rental agents employed by the Trumps told the FBI that only 1 percent of tenants at the Trump-run Ocean Terrace Apartments were black, and that there were no black tenants at Lincoln Shore Apartments. Both were on Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. However, minorities were steered to a different complex on Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, Patio Gardens, which was 40 percent black, the government said.

Trump and his lawyer decided to settle.

Donald Trump was one of a group of defendants.  Defendants don't choose to settle.  They choose to accept the settlement offered by the prosecution.  Once more, the settlement was granted "without admission of guilt".  What you are referencing is a he said she said of witnesses in a case that did not result in a finding of guilt.

The other point that blew past you is that it was 45 years ago.  If that's the best one can come up with to prove that someone is (present tense) a racist than one is grasping at pieces of fading straws.  
I understood it was 45 years ago. I also understand most people who are willing to discriminate don’t usually change in their entire life.

Shakes head and moves on......

Someone please throw this man a rope.

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« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2019, 01:01:56 PM »

You chose  1 paragraph out of 3 pages. There is much more. Here is a snippet.
Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to “Jews and Executives” and “discouraged rental to blacks.” The couple told the government’s lawyers that they were advised that “a racial code was in effect, blacks being referred to as ‘No. 9.’ ”

Other rental agents employed by the Trumps told the FBI that only 1 percent of tenants at the Trump-run Ocean Terrace Apartments were black, and that there were no black tenants at Lincoln Shore Apartments. Both were on Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. However, minorities were steered to a different complex on Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, Patio Gardens, which was 40 percent black, the government said.

Trump and his lawyer decided to settle.

Donald Trump was one of a group of defendants.  Defendants don't choose to settle.  They choose to accept the settlement offered by the prosecution.  Once more, the settlement was granted "without admission of guilt".  What you are referencing is a he said she said of witnesses in a case that did not result in a finding of guilt.

The other point that blew past you is that it was 45 years ago.  If that's the best one can come up with to prove that someone is (present tense) a racist than one is grasping at pieces of fading straws.  
I understood it was 45 years ago. I also understand most people who are willing to discriminate don’t usually change in their entire life.

Shakes head and moves on......

Someone please throw this man a rope.

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« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2019, 01:20:16 PM »




“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”
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« Reply #69 on: February 28, 2019, 01:23:57 PM »




“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”

Not if he was running against Hillary.
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« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2019, 01:26:31 PM »




“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”

Jess beat me to it.  cooldude
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« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2019, 01:28:11 PM »

And there we have prime evidence against Trump.   Grin Cheesy Grin





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« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2019, 01:30:20 PM »

And there we have prime evidence against Trump.   Grin Cheesy Grin






Actually prime evidence against his supporters  Grin Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2019, 01:30:32 PM »

I understand most people who are drowning don’t usually willingly continue to breathe in water.  2funny
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« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2019, 01:31:43 PM »

And there we have prime evidence against Trump.   Grin Cheesy Grin






Actually prime evidence against his supporters  Grin Cheesy Grin

Prime evidence of WHAT?
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« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2019, 01:39:51 PM »

I understand most people who are drowning don’t usually willingly continue to breathe in water.  2funny

I'd throw the man a life vest but, it would be a waste of time and a vest.  He'll just jump back in.  2funny

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« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2019, 01:40:37 PM »

I understand most people who are drowning don’t usually willingly continue to breathe in water.  2funny

I'd throw the man a life vest but, it would be a waste of time and a vest.  He'll just jump back in.  2funny

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« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2019, 02:55:59 PM »

I understood it was 45 years ago. I also understand most people who are willing to discriminate don’t usually change in their entire life.

I don't want to stretch this out too long.  I try to stay away from most of these but I get drawn by points attempted that are just completely inane.

If your point is correct there should be the same percentage of those "willing" to discriminate as there were fifty years ago making allowance only for those younger than fifty and those who have left earth.  I quick glance around will tell us that simply isn't true.

Oftimes folks see what they choose to see with no significant limitation by reality. 

The term racist is overused these days.  I looked up the definition and it is as I expected.  At one time a racist was simply one who held that one race was superior to another.  These days some definitions include any belief that all races are not completely equal, that there are significant differences from one race to another.  By that definition anyone who said outright that those of southern African descent tend to have more tightly curled hair than those of European descent would be a racist.  A quick view of the Olympics will case one to observe that some darker skinned ethnic groups tend to excel in running events as they often represent countries of which the majority are of European descent.  Let's not mention basketball or difference in average physical characteristics.  If those obvious outward differences occur, and they do, why is it suddenly wrong to believe some not so outwardly observed differences are also there?

We are told to believe by our culture today many things which are simply not true but we are not to question them.  An ad for a university on television ends by the president of the university saying that nature equally distributes ability but does not equally distribute opportunity.  By his assessment any child could grow up to be an Olympic star determined entirely by how hard he tries or how well he is trained.  I don't want to learn anything from that idiot.

Oh, while I'm at it, muslims are not a race.  There are several such groups that have been lately lumped into racism.   
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« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2019, 02:57:52 PM »

Trump's so racist he dated a black girl for 2 years in the 1990's...

Trump's so racist Jesse Jackson praised him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lcART6TTE

Trump's just so racist...




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It's funny... He was a great guy..... until he ran for public office as a Republican.
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« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2019, 03:55:42 PM »

Have you stopped beating your wife?


Meathead is a racist wife beater?

I always knew something was off about him.

Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.


Very true. It's almost impossible to ascertain if someone is racist by their thoughts or even words. But it is indicative in a persons actions. (1973 lawsuit)


This is not related towards you, but some seem to have trouble following the thread. I didn't call Trump a racist. Cohen did. Baldo stated that none of the Republicans were willing to try to defend Trump in any way, just to attack Cohen. I corrected his statement by pointing out Congressman Meadow's attempt at defending Trump. (Ill fated as it was)

 Nice deflection... OK maybe you didn't say it but I bet dollars to donuts you believe it. Nor have you ever disputed it either. Cohen did yes and so did most of the Democratic side. But you still haven't answered my question with proof. I won't hold my breath like Britman.
I guess you are unwilling to look it up for yourself. Here you go.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html?utm_term=.cf2bc73d12c4

its unbelievable u would bring this up. more proof u read headlines and talking points and never ever read the details to find out what was really going on.  "He would also say that the company wanted to avoid renting apartments to welfare recipients of any color but never discriminated based on race."

it was always about the ability to pay and non-welfare people renting their apartments. U know not that I'm typing, u brought this up before and I remember giving u the detailed info about this and a landlords right to rent to somebody who has good credit and ability to pay.  That is all the Trump's were doing protecting their investment, but the socialist govt didn't like that.
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