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My question is: is he credible and did he throw Trump completely under the bus? I think his demeanor during this whole thing was outstanding no matter what you think of him.
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It's delicious.....
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My question is: is he credible and did he throw Trump completely under the bus? I think his demeanor during this whole thing was outstanding no matter what you think of him.
And yes, I agree with your Hillary assessment!
Cohen ADMITS to preparing & coordinating his congressional testimony with: - The DNC - Democratic Party leadership - Chairman Cummings - Chairman Adam Schiff - "Various individuals" in the Democratic party This is a DNC hit job http://thecolumbianpost.com/michael-cohen-admits-that-he-colluded-with-democrats-ahead-of-testimony/
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One of his statements stated, Trump is a racist. Where is that coming from? What is the proof? Other than lining up with the Democratic talking points why would it be brought into the discussion? If you will lie about one thing you will lie about another.
I understand the glee of having someone tear down Trump but it’s pretty sad when all you have is a convicted felon to prop up your stories.
Whatever proof of wrongdoing on Trumps part will need to be answered for, but anyone with a working brain knows there is some very troubling business going on within our government as a whole.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 06:39:57 PM » |
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They sure are worried about him maybe having a book / movie deal.
Tlaib tried the race card and got her ass handed to her. She is a disgrace!!
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The DNC is the national disgrace.
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One of his statements stated, Trump is a racist. Where is that coming from? What is the proof? Other than lining up with the Democratic talking points why would it be brought into the discussion? If you will lie about one thing you will lie about another.
I understand the glee of having someone tear down Trump but it’s pretty sad when all you have is a convicted felon to prop up your stories.
Whatever proof of wrongdoing on Trumps part will need to be answered for, but anyone with a working brain knows there is some very troubling business going on within our government as a whole.
Comes from his lawyer and the Lemonheads who run the DNC now or at least supply all talking points no matter how ridiculous. His lawyer is Lanny Davis who Cohen admitted he does not even pay. He did say he might pay him when he gets out of jail - no need Mikey, already taken care of. Davis has been the Consigliore for the Clinton Crime Family for decades, especially the Misses. When I read Davis was his lawyer months ago - well it was quite clear to me where this would be heading, and the mastermind(s) behind it. That being the same people who were involved with the real Russian, not collusion, but instead conspiracy as millions traded hands to the Russians.
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These people and everyone who support these kind of people make me sick. They have been trying to get Trump on anything they can for 2 years with nothing to show for it. While the real criminals are behind the investigation doing everything possible not to incriminate themselves. I can't wait for the day the real criminals heads roll if that day even exists in our society.
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Proverbs 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursues them, but the [uncompromisingly] righteous are bold as a lion.
2 When a land transgresses, it has many rulers, but when the ruler is a man of discernment, understanding, and knowledge, its stability will long continue.
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2019, 03:28:22 AM » |
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Dems are really hurting, what a side show with no information on Trump. But Schiff and other dems talked to Cohen and coached him on what to say and how to answer, kind of like when Hillary was given the questions at the debate. You cheat and lie at every turn show up on Rolling Stone magazine and still have 0 integrity and proposals to keep the US afloat and help whats going on. Sad day for Dems, great day for anyone who loves the US as they are digging their own grave. They are so out of touch and impressed with themselves.
Michael Cohen Talked To Adam Schiff About What Topics Were Going To Come Up
As Twitchy reported earlier Wednesday, Michael Cohen, testifying before the House Oversight Committee, admitted that he’d talked with a handful of Democrats before the hearing, including Chairman Elijah Cummings, Chairman Adam Schiff, and “various individuals” in the Democratic party; oh, and he said Lanny Davis was representing him pro bono.
So also in the testimony as if things were not bad enough
Cohen Slapped With Criminal Referral Mid-Testimony Over FARA Violation
Rashida Tlaib Flips Out At Cohen Hearing Over Mark Meadows Inviting Lynne Patton, Calls Her A ‘Prop’
The new rock stars? AOC joins Ilhan Omar, Jahana Hayes and Nancy Pelosi on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine where they talk about...
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Its amazing to see what the prospect of spending time in jail does to you, you will kiss anyone's butt, we will see how Schiff, Comey and a few others react when their turn comes.
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Have had a few disgruntled former employees work for me in the past. Almost all claim something that is a huge stretch of the truth. Is what Cohen claims to be factual the truth? I personally find it difficult to believe an admitted liar. Where there is smoke there is fire? Maybe. If the Clintons had been pursued and prosecuted as intently by an unbias'd authority, they would both be behind bars. The Clinton Foundation improves lives across the United States and around the world (link is external) to create economic opportunity, improve public health, and inspire civic engagement. Clinton Foundation my ass. Rams
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When asked about the Cohen testimony yesterday, Dianne Feinstein said 'I think he has a credibility problem'. When your star witness has already been convicted of lying to congress, and is distrusted by one of your most partisan Senators, you might have a weak case.
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ?
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By defending, I think you mean "defending the President". But, the President wasn't on trial. This was just a dog and pony Trump hate show. Nothing was learned. Nothing was proven. If so, and I missed it, what was it? What exactly did the President need defending from? Thanks in advance for your reply.
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? So is there any way to defend an accusation like that, if the friends argument does not work.
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? Wow. That is pretty racist of you. Really? "trotted out" a black person? Is that how you saw that woman? Lynne Patton has got a resume that is first rate. Look it up and have some respect. Her opinion of Trump is based on experience. She was there at the invitation of the Senator, an invitation she accepted because she knows the accusations of racism and misogyny against Trump are ridiculous and abjectly false and was there to stand up for him. Pretty damn admirable in my book. You want racist? Hillary Clinton praising the likes of the late Robert Byrd, the Senator and Klansman. There is the lost argument.
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? So what exactly would you say if you were accused of being racist? Having black friends pretty much proves without a doubt you are not racist. How is the argument lost if someone has black friends? I would think you instantly win the argument. If someone is truly racist they do not have friends of a different race. You have let the media fog your brain too much. This racist card is being thrown around so much it is losing all of its meaning.
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? If the media wants to focus on the racism of the presidential candidates, why are they ignoring these 10 prime examples: #1 – In 1974, after Bill Clinton lost his bid for a Senate seat, Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a, “f*cking Jew bastard!” This outburst was witnessed and confirmed by 3 people, so it definitely happened. #2 – As First Lady, Hillary called young black men “super-predators” indicating that she thought all young black males were violent criminals. She also said, “We have to bring them to heel,” like young blacks are the same as dogs. Despite thinking this was incredibly racist, blacks still support Hillary. #3 – While serving in the US Senate, Hillary tried to make a joke that disparaged a civil rights icon and demeaned all people from India. “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?” asked Clinton. #4 – In 2005 Hillary said, “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.” She also, as a Senator, voted to construct a wall between the US and Mexico. Considering the main “proof” of Trump’s racism is that he opposes illegal immigration and wants to build a wall, isn’t it odd that Hillary gets off for having said the same thing? #5 – During the 2008 democratic primaries Hillary Clinton’s campaign started the “birther” rumors, questioning Obama’s US citizenship. They even circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb. Somehow Trump’s campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is racist, but Hillary’s role in starting the birther movement is not. #6 – Also during the 2008 presidential race, Hillary’s husband Bill said this of Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.” Hillary didn’t say this one but her husband did and she certainly never disavowed it. #7 – Shortly after announcing her candidacy, Hillary said “all lives matter” in a black church. I don’t think this one is racist, but lefties, black activists, and Hillary herself all do, so it makes the list. Plus as is the case with most of this stuff, if Trump had said it liberals would freak the hell out. #8 – In November of 2015, Hillary called people in this country illegally “illegal aliens.” Trump is a racist when he says “illegal aliens,” why isn’t Hillary? #9 – In April of this year, Hillary joined NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio on stage at a democratic fundraiser for a scripted joke about how lazy black people are. The two liberals made reference to “colored people’s time” which is a super-racist way of saying black people are chronically tardy and lethargic. #10 – April was a great month for Hillary’s racism, as she also made a comment disparaging Native Americans. She said she had experience dealing with wild men when they “get off the reservation.” In essence she said Native Americans are savages who must be segregated from the rest of society. As a bonus: #11 – On a black radio show, Hillary pandered to black voters by claiming she always carries hot sauce in her purse. It was racist when Donald Trump pandered Hispanics by eating a taco bowl, but not racist when Hillary pandered blacks. How does that work? Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has decades of making anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-Indian (both Native Americans and Asians), and anti-Latino statements. Why is Trump a racist and Hillary is not?
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? Wow. That is pretty racist of you. Really? "trotted out" a black person? Is that how you saw that woman? Lynne Patton has got a resume that is first rate. Look it up and have some respect. Her opinion of Trump is based on experience. She was there at the invitation of the Senator, an invitation she accepted because she knows the accusations of racism and misogyny against Trump are ridiculous and abjectly false and was there to stand up for him. Pretty damn admirable in my book. You want racist? Hillary Clinton praising the likes of the late Robert Byrd, the Senator and Klansman. There is the lost argument. I agree 100% with what Moonshot said. I saw a excerpt of a interview with Lynne Patton this moning. She was there to show support for president Trump and to counter what that convicted lier was going to say about Trump. What better way to "prove" you're not a racist then to have a minority friend stand up for you? She is not just a member of Trump's cabinet she is a family friend. In my opinion your "trotting out" comment was racist. Good job Rob.....
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? Wow. That is pretty racist of you. Really? "trotted out" a black person? Is that how you saw that woman? Lynne Patton has got a resume that is first rate. Look it up and have some respect. Her opinion of Trump is based on experience. She was there at the invitation of the Senator, an invitation she accepted because she knows the accusations of racism and misogyny against Trump are ridiculous and abjectly false and was there to stand up for him. Pretty damn admirable in my book. You want racist? Hillary Clinton praising the likes of the late Robert Byrd, the Senator and Klansman. There is the lost argument. definition of trot out : : to bring forward for display or use Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there.
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? Wow. That is pretty racist of you. Really? "trotted out" a black person? Is that how you saw that woman? Lynne Patton has got a resume that is first rate. Look it up and have some respect. Her opinion of Trump is based on experience. She was there at the invitation of the Senator, an invitation she accepted because she knows the accusations of racism and misogyny against Trump are ridiculous and abjectly false and was there to stand up for him. Pretty damn admirable in my book. You want racist? Hillary Clinton praising the likes of the late Robert Byrd, the Senator and Klansman. There is the lost argument. definition of trot out : : to bring forward for display or use Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there. yeah you are sounding very racist. you should stop while you can.
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And everyone else is, has been and will always be racist. It is apparent that the main stream media has certified those definitions and that the democratic party has enshrined those definitions into the DNC charter.
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Got it, Chris Christy said that! It was in relation to the idea that there is no way to defend Trump, since all the allegations against Trump are supposedly true. There is just a few problems one, there are no prosecutable allegations, Cohen was coached, he was also put in front of the Mueller investigation and nothing came out. So if there was anything Mueller would have already had it. What a great show the Dems put on it was much more interesting than the failed Oscars, but just as self absorbed narcissistic and totally bs . MOMMY the bully hit me. Cohen knows if your a dirt bag the best way to be an undirtbag is to turn yourself into a gratification machine for the media. What else was noticed in this hearing was there was NO interruptions, no infantile signs either
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Well, not exactly. There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black, to show that he is not racist.  When will people learn that if you need to prove you aren't racist by saying "I have black friends", you've already lost the argument ? Wow. That is pretty racist of you. Really? "trotted out" a black person? Is that how you saw that woman? Lynne Patton has got a resume that is first rate. Look it up and have some respect. Her opinion of Trump is based on experience. She was there at the invitation of the Senator, an invitation she accepted because she knows the accusations of racism and misogyny against Trump are ridiculous and abjectly false and was there to stand up for him. Pretty damn admirable in my book. You want racist? Hillary Clinton praising the likes of the late Robert Byrd, the Senator and Klansman. There is the lost argument. definition of trot out : : to bring forward for display or use Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there. SO FREAKING WHAT !!!!! She was there on her own to help show Trump is not a racist. If she didn't want to do it I'm sure she wouldn't have been there. So Rob, give us some proof of Trump's racism. Not your "opinion" or the democrat rhetoric. Show us proof. Like some of the Clinton racist statements stated above by 98Valk. I want undisputed proof. Come on Rob. Enlighten us...
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Have you stopped beating your wife?
Meathead is a racist wife beater? I always knew something was off about him.
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2019, 09:43:42 AM » |
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Have you stopped beating your wife?
Meathead is a racist wife beater? I always knew something was off about him. Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime.
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2019, 09:43:50 AM » |
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"definition of trot out : : to bring forward for display or use
Seems exactly what the Congressman did. Did she give any testimony of first person to dispute Cohen's assessment of Trump ? No. The Congressman brought her out to stand there."
I hope you aren't going to say she needs to get back on the plantation, because that seems to be where you seem to be going with this. Seriously, dude, you are not furthering your reputation with this thread. You sound like an uber-racist trying his best to not sound like one. "There was the Republican Congressman who trotted out a Trump worker who is black." It sounds like you are saying she's not a person, but a black Trump worker. Racist and dehumanizing.
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2019, 09:46:39 AM » |
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Have you stopped beating your wife?
Meathead is a racist wife beater? I always knew something was off about him. Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just pointing out the usage of loaded questions and the impossibility of proving innocence when accused to thought crime. 
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