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Robert
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« on: March 22, 2019, 03:05:15 PM »

I know 2 people that will be disappointed by this nothing burger.  2funny

Breaking: Special Counsel Investigation Finally Over, Mueller Has Submitted His Report To AG Barr, No More Indictments… signaling the end of a two-year investigation that has dominated President Trump’s term in office.

He confirmed in a separate letter that he was not impeded by the Trump administration in any way. And not one person has been charged with anything related to collusion.

But in a separate issue

BREAKING: Judicial Watch today announced it received 756 pages of newly uncovered emails that were among the materials former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tried to delete or destroy, several of which were classified.

 She declared under penalty of perjury in 2015 that she had “directed that all my emails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or are potentially federal records be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.”

Judicial Watch obtained the documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed on May 6, 2015, after the State Department failed to respond to a March 4, 2015, FOIA request (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00687))

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-more-classified-emails-in-hillary-clintons-unsecure-email-system/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=press%20release
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2019, 03:16:56 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2019, 03:28:46 PM »

Robert......any hobbies?
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2019, 03:33:21 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 03:38:23 PM »

It'll never be over. Pretty sure he'll go on trial soon, after two little girls and a slave accuse him of being a witch.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 03:59:54 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 04:24:55 PM »

Never fear, the nation's psych wards are on standby!

https://babylonbee.com/news/nations-psychiatric-wards-prepare-for-influx-of-deranged-liberals-should-mueller-report-not-prove-collusion
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2019, 04:25:22 PM »

I can do a respectable Long Black Train, although I am more of a tenor than a bass.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 04:31:40 PM »

I can do a respectable Long Black Train, although I am more of a tenor than a bass.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 05:15:56 PM »

       The dems are Demanding full release of the witc er investigation. I hope it rears up and takes a big juicy bite outa ALL the dems keesters.  Roll Eyes And knowin the dems and who be in charge they-dems-have a new investigation warmin up in da wings!  uglystupid2 RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2019, 05:23:18 PM »

I'll wait and see what the report says. Considering I wouldn't bet even a dollar that the Dems have been given all the necessary recaps of what's in it, sounds like they believe they can "work with it".
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 05:29:21 PM »

I'll wait and see what the report says. Considering I wouldn't bet even a dollar that the Dems have been given all the necessary recaps of what's in it, sounds like they believe they can "work with it".

If they cannot create something they are GONE, so there is some serious motivation to throw anything they can up and see if anything sticks so they will not be revealed for what they are. But at this point if there is no prosecution of the facts that surround Hillary and go all the way up to Obama then there will be no respect for the rule of law.
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 05:42:01 PM »

Well that didn't take long, the moonbats are quickly turning on Mueller, before the report is even fully released!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/adam-schiff-rejects-reports-no-more-mueller-indictments-forthcoming-says-special-counsel-could-be-called-to-testify

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 06:01:43 PM »

I'll wait and see what the report says. Considering I wouldn't bet even a dollar that the Dems have been given all the necessary recaps of what's in it, sounds like they believe they can "work with it".

If they cannot create something they are GONE, so there is some serious motivation to throw anything they can up and see if anything sticks so they will not be revealed for what they are. But at this point if there is no prosecution of the facts that surround Hillary and go all the way up to Obama then there will be no respect for the rule of law.
Except "this am Bizzaro world". How loud would the laughter be if I said, "They know what Hillary did, so they'll indict, right?"?
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 06:06:19 PM »

Well that didn't take long, the moonbats are quickly turning on Mueller, before the report is even fully released!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/adam-schiff-rejects-reports-no-more-mueller-indictments-forthcoming-says-special-counsel-could-be-called-to-testify


I miss your conclusions. Schiff said if Barr holds back the report from them they could subpoena Mueller to get the info. He also said there might be more indictments coming from the Southern District of New York. Seems completely logical to me. I see nothing in those statements where he is "turning on Mueller".
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2019, 07:22:18 PM »

Well that didn't take long, the moonbats are quickly turning on Mueller, before the report is even fully released!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/adam-schiff-rejects-reports-no-more-mueller-indictments-forthcoming-says-special-counsel-could-be-called-to-testify


I miss your conclusions. Schiff said if Barr holds back the report from them they could subpoena Mueller to get the info. He also said there might be more indictments coming from the Southern District of New York. Seems completely logical to me. I see nothing in those statements where he is "turning on Mueller".

Rob, there ya go again.....

Just let them have their fun. this ain't over, not by a long shot......

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2019, 07:45:37 PM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2019, 08:19:27 PM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

Proud, except for the notion put forth by baldo. It’s been called a witch hunt and nothing more pleasurable than for the witch hunt to continue. No one wins except those who hide behind their money and political power. It won’t be over for Trump until 2024.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2019, 08:23:52 PM »

Exactly my thought.  So we have a FINALLY concluded investigation.  But since no Trump indictment or other sanction is recommended or supported, one side will not (ever?) be satisfied?

I'm neither proud nor happy about that. 
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2019, 01:11:19 AM »

Just imagine how much worse (actually better for the US) the Obama presidency would have been if the Republicans had been "special investigating" and indicting his administration for his entire term of office.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2019, 03:34:00 AM »

Freakin dog and pony show! As for the title of this post, nothing is "over" anymore!
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2019, 03:58:27 AM »

Unfortunately, it's not over.

Regardless of what the "Report" says, both sides will put their spin on it.    A "bias'd" media has already started.    

The Dems will do what ever they can get away with, to include pushing the truth (or fiction) to exaggerated proportions, Trump supporters will stick with Trump (unless, substantial proof of a crime is provided).  

Indictments and successful prosecutions are what matters IMHO.    No doubt, Mueller found some crimes and got some convictions.   Good.  

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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2019, 05:11:38 AM »

Just imagine how much worse (actually better for the US) the Obama presidency would have been if the Republicans had been "special investigating" and indicting his administration for his entire term of office.

You usually need crimes in order to have investigations, particularly 'special' ones... Wink Wink



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/414869-obama-gop-has-racked-up-enough-indictments-to-field-a-football-team
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2019, 05:29:11 AM »

And it begins...  Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EFaWdme570

And on the left, PLEASE keep your fishing expedition/witch hunt going, please, that even after two years of digging up everything possible on President Trump and him coming up clean and your side STILL can't stop your fishing, it's showing the rest of America just how much this was nothing more than an attempt to "get" President Trump from the beginning, and nothing more...

Every Democrat "Investigation" just increases the chances of President Trump's success in 2020, so please, keep investigating, harassing, hindering and trying to harm him and his reputation.

And may ya'll not figure it out until it's too late.

(Even though you've flat out been told Wink )
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2019, 06:46:42 AM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

 The fact that after two years nothing against Trump has been found. For two years we heard "Trump is going to fire Mueller to stop the investigation". Well that didn't happen and now after two years and millions of dollars spent for what? Sure Manaford is going to jail for crimes that had ZERO,ZILCH,NADA to do with Trump or his campaign.

 Bob pointed out that there was no crimes in the Obama administration. Well when you have the DOJ in your back pocket you wouldn't have anything to worry about either. Lisa Page stated that Obama's DOJ told the FBI not to investigate Clinton for her illegal private server. Loretta Lynch even meets with Bill Clinton to discuss it. Talk about COLLUSION.  Never mind about Fast and Furious,Bengasi,uranium one.....ECT....

 Rob,I'm going to say this one more time since you don't get it. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Look it up. Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2019, 07:06:43 AM »

Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.

Or to pack the SCOTUS with a bunch of Ginsburgs so the Constitution can be strangled into meaning what they want it to (without actually changing the constitution at all). 

This is not a new idea:  The Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937 (frequently called the "court-packing plan") was a legislative initiative proposed by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt to add more justices to the U.S. Supreme Court.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/roosevelt-announces-court-packing-plan
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2019, 07:32:49 AM »

Unfortunately, it's not over.

Regardless of what the "Report" says, both sides will put their spin on it.    A "bias'd" media has already started.    

The Dems will do what ever they can get away with, to include pushing the truth (or fiction) to exaggerated porpotions, Trump supporters will stick with Trump (unless, substantial proof of a crime is provided).  

Indictments and successful prosecutions are what matters IMHO.    No doubt, Mueller found some crimes and got some convictions.   Good.  

Rams


             Let the dems investigate any thing they wanna investigate. I have one caveat for the rest of their investigations-you jist KNOW more are in the wurx-They-dems-pay for these witch hunts outa their own pockets. Their federal "wages" nor Any gubmint money NOT to be used at all. Course if hilda and her bunch start feelin the heat more "suicides" will be likely.  Roll Eyes RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2019, 08:05:11 AM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

 The fact that after two years nothing against Trump has been found. For two years we heard "Trump is going to fire Mueller to stop the investigation". Well that didn't happen and now after two years and millions of dollars spent for what? Sure Manaford is going to jail for crimes that had ZERO,ZILCH,NADA to do with Trump or his campaign.

 Bob pointed out that there was no crimes in the Obama administration. Well when you have the DOJ in your back pocket you wouldn't have anything to worry about either. Lisa Page stated that Obama's DOJ told the FBI not to investigate Clinton for her illegal private server. Loretta Lynch even meets with Bill Clinton to discuss it. Talk about COLLUSION.  Never mind about Fast and Furious,Bengasi,uranium one.....ECT....

 Rob,I'm going to say this one more time since you don't get it. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Look it up. Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.
Mark, I’m well aware our democracy is set up as a republic.  Wink If you choose to believe only Manafort was found guilty, that is your perogative. But I remember a head of the National Intelligence admitting to guilt, a Deputy Campaign advisor admitting guilt, a foreign policy advisor admitting guilt. The list is long enough that I’m probably forgetting some also. You can tell yourself that only Republicans stand with the Constitution, you’d be wrong in that aspect also.
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2019, 09:22:32 AM »

I'll wait and see what the report says. Considering I wouldn't bet even a dollar that the Dems have been given all the necessary recaps of what's in it, sounds like they believe they can "work with it".

If they cannot create something they are GONE, so there is some serious motivation to throw anything they can up and see if anything sticks so they will not be revealed for what they are. But at this point if there is no prosecution of the facts that surround Hillary and go all the way up to Obama then there will be no respect for the rule of law.
They will ALWAYS be able to create something. They created the whole Russian collusion thing. The point is they will be creating nevertrump stuff until he's out of office. Even if that is due to term limits  uglystupid2
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2019, 09:24:29 AM »

It's got a good beat, I can dance to it...

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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2019, 09:47:08 AM »

I could dance to them all under a landfill..... all night long.   Grin cooldude
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2019, 09:56:26 AM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

 The fact that after two years nothing against Trump has been found. For two years we heard "Trump is going to fire Mueller to stop the investigation". Well that didn't happen and now after two years and millions of dollars spent for what? Sure Manaford is going to jail for crimes that had ZERO,ZILCH,NADA to do with Trump or his campaign.

 Bob pointed out that there was no crimes in the Obama administration. Well when you have the DOJ in your back pocket you wouldn't have anything to worry about either. Lisa Page stated that Obama's DOJ told the FBI not to investigate Clinton for her illegal private server. Loretta Lynch even meets with Bill Clinton to discuss it. Talk about COLLUSION.  Never mind about Fast and Furious,Bengasi,uranium one.....ECT....

 Rob,I'm going to say this one more time since you don't get it. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Look it up. Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.
Mark, I’m well aware our democracy is set up as a republic.  Wink If you choose to believe only Manafort was found guilty, that is your perogative. But I remember a head of the National Intelligence admitting to guilt, a Deputy Campaign advisor admitting guilt, a foreign policy advisor admitting guilt. The list is long enough that I’m probably forgetting some also. You can tell yourself that only Republicans stand with the Constitution, you’d be wrong in that aspect also.

 Well then stop referring to it as a democracy.

 As far as the constitution. Why is it every time something goes against the dems they say its against the constitution? I have news for you. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we have the "right" to healthcare. Also it doesn't say that women have the "right" to an abortion. It also doesn't say anywhere on what type of firearms we can or cannot own.  So tell me again which side abides by the constitution the way it was written by the founding fathers?  The Democrats constantly try to "rewrite" the constitution the way they see fit.
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2019, 09:57:52 AM »

The Mueller investigation had one job find collusion, THEY FAILED. 

It was not a criminal investigation into any other area.

Just because they got indictments in other areas, they FAILED in collusion since they did not turn the scope to Hillary, which would have made them a WINNER. WHY, REALLY WHY?

Truly amazing how they could empower a special counsel to investigate collusion.

 Give them unlimited resources, unlimited scope and armed with the original mandate that was allowed unrestricted access into so many other unrelated areas, yet could not seem to swing the investigation to Hillary to find the true collusion.

How corrupt, paid off, bias, tone deaf do you have to be that even the Russians named, Hillary, prosecuted someone for collusion, the evidence points to Hillary and with all this, Mueller could not find collusion.  Shocked Roll Eyes 

What ever you have to say to make yourself feel better, so be it.

 But, Mueller not only failed spectacularly it was a tremendous reveal into the corruption, bias and loss of Justice in our political, legal systems and Congress also.

The truth was shouted from the roof tops so much so that even the Russians prosecuted someone and pointed the way yet we found no collusion.

Everyone sees it, everyone knows it and a few hide it and try to bury it like the dog does his poop. SAD,So SAD that the rule of law with millions of dollars to investigation collusion could not find its way to the truth.

I cannot believe that anyone would stand for this, I cannot believe that anyone would defend this. I cannot believe that anyone will let their emotions get in the way of the truth so badly that we could lose our country, that is boarder line mental illness.


The dead body is on the floor, the gun is in the hand of the killer and they could not see who did it, with a multi million dollar budget, If Hillary and the true ones that committed collusion dont get arrested we as a constitutional Republic are LOST, TOTALLY LOST.

 For without truth and fairness in justice then the justice goes to the most corrupt. Then we are truly a country where the rich and powerful are privileged and it will be shown in what happens.

 
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2019, 10:08:26 AM »

As for indictment

Hillary Clinton investigators were told Obama DOJ 'not willing to charge' her on key espionage statute: internal chart

One source told the news outlet that electronic records reveal that Strzok changed the language from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," scrubbing a key word that could have had legal ramifications for Clinton. An individual who mishandled classified material could be prosecuted under federal law for "gross negligence."

 Lynch was promised Scalia’s US Supreme Court Seat for exonerating Hilary

If you have the wolf guarding the hen house then you are in big trouble.

They never thought she would lose  police
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2019, 10:58:31 AM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

 The fact that after two years nothing against Trump has been found. For two years we heard "Trump is going to fire Mueller to stop the investigation". Well that didn't happen and now after two years and millions of dollars spent for what? Sure Manaford is going to jail for crimes that had ZERO,ZILCH,NADA to do with Trump or his campaign.

 Bob pointed out that there was no crimes in the Obama administration. Well when you have the DOJ in your back pocket you wouldn't have anything to worry about either. Lisa Page stated that Obama's DOJ told the FBI not to investigate Clinton for her illegal private server. Loretta Lynch even meets with Bill Clinton to discuss it. Talk about COLLUSION.  Never mind about Fast and Furious,Bengasi,uranium one.....ECT....

 Rob,I'm going to say this one more time since you don't get it. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Look it up. Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.
Mark, I’m well aware our democracy is set up as a republic.  Wink If you choose to believe only Manafort was found guilty, that is your perogative. But I remember a head of the National Intelligence admitting to guilt, a Deputy Campaign advisor admitting guilt, a foreign policy advisor admitting guilt. The list is long enough that I’m probably forgetting some also. You can tell yourself that only Republicans stand with the Constitution, you’d be wrong in that aspect also.

 Well then stop referring to it as a democracy.

 As far as the constitution. Why is it every time something goes against the dems they say its against the constitution? I have news for you. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we have the "right" to healthcare. Also it doesn't say that women have the "right" to an abortion. It also doesn't say anywhere on what type of firearms we can or cannot own.  So tell me again which side abides by the constitution the way it was written by the founding fathers?  The Democrats constantly try to "rewrite" the constitution the way they see fit.
I hate to give a civics lesson. But we are a democracy.  coolsmiley And I will refer to it as I wish, thank you. Granted, we are not a direct democracy. But that is semantics. Maybe this will help you understand our form of government better.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/13/is-the-united-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0788da35c2e7
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2019, 11:05:16 AM »

The Mueller investigation had one job find collusion

 
Incorrect.

 According to its authorizing document, which was signed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on May 17, 2017, the investigation included any possible links or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Russian government as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation." The scope of the investigation reportedly includes potential obstruction of justice by Trump and others.[2] It was conducted by the United States Department of Justice Special Counsel's Office, headed by Robert Mueller, a Republican and former Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). As part of the investigation, Mueller also took over several other existing FBI investigations, including those into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.[3]

(Lifted from Wikipedia)
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2019, 11:22:43 AM »


 Lynch was promised Scalia’s US Supreme Court Seat for exonerating Hilary



I must have missed that headline...

Is that the seat that McConnell stole, that Gorsuch currently occupies?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/opinion/neil-gorsuch-the-nominee-for-a-stolen-seat.html
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2019, 11:25:25 AM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

 The fact that after two years nothing against Trump has been found. For two years we heard "Trump is going to fire Mueller to stop the investigation". Well that didn't happen and now after two years and millions of dollars spent for what? Sure Manaford is going to jail for crimes that had ZERO,ZILCH,NADA to do with Trump or his campaign.

 Bob pointed out that there was no crimes in the Obama administration. Well when you have the DOJ in your back pocket you wouldn't have anything to worry about either. Lisa Page stated that Obama's DOJ told the FBI not to investigate Clinton for her illegal private server. Loretta Lynch even meets with Bill Clinton to discuss it. Talk about COLLUSION.  Never mind about Fast and Furious,Bengasi,uranium one.....ECT....

 Rob,I'm going to say this one more time since you don't get it. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Look it up. Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.
Mark, I’m well aware our democracy is set up as a republic.  Wink If you choose to believe only Manafort was found guilty, that is your perogative. But I remember a head of the National Intelligence admitting to guilt, a Deputy Campaign advisor admitting guilt, a foreign policy advisor admitting guilt. The list is long enough that I’m probably forgetting some also. You can tell yourself that only Republicans stand with the Constitution, you’d be wrong in that aspect also.

 Well then stop referring to it as a democracy.

 As far as the constitution. Why is it every time something goes against the dems they say its against the constitution? I have news for you. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we have the "right" to healthcare. Also it doesn't say that women have the "right" to an abortion. It also doesn't say anywhere on what type of firearms we can or cannot own.  So tell me again which side abides by the constitution the way it was written by the founding fathers?  The Democrats constantly try to "rewrite" the constitution the way they see fit.
I hate to give a civics lesson. But we are a democracy.  coolsmiley And I will refer to it as I wish, thank you. Granted, we are not a direct democracy. But that is semantics. Maybe this will help you understand our form of government better.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/13/is-the-united-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0788da35c2e7


 Rob you can take your Washington Post civics lesson and shove it. Every Dem candidate for president has the same BS stands. Free healthcare,free college, Medicare for all,green new deal and open boarders. But not one has any idea how to pay for it. You think the economy is messed up now (it's not) just wait until the Dems get finished with it.
   The Democrat party doesn't give a crap about this country and is out to destroy it and Trump no matter what. That is evident to everyone who doesn't watch CNN and MSNBC.  Like Forrest Gump says. That's all I got to say about that.

 
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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2019, 11:31:03 AM »

It's certainly not over, for sure. Maybe nothing criminal was discovered, besides what was already found. Regardless I have to say, I am very proud of our system today. Mueller (a Republican) conducted a thorough investigation with NO leaks coming out of his office. In D.C. this is unprecedented. Attorney General Barr (a Republican) stated Mueller's investigation was conducted with no interference from him or his predecessors. In the climate of many trying to portray it as a witch hunt or a sham, this is admirable.
  Our system of Democracy stands strong. This is something that liberals and conservatives can come together on and be proud.

 The fact that after two years nothing against Trump has been found. For two years we heard "Trump is going to fire Mueller to stop the investigation". Well that didn't happen and now after two years and millions of dollars spent for what? Sure Manaford is going to jail for crimes that had ZERO,ZILCH,NADA to do with Trump or his campaign.

 Bob pointed out that there was no crimes in the Obama administration. Well when you have the DOJ in your back pocket you wouldn't have anything to worry about either. Lisa Page stated that Obama's DOJ told the FBI not to investigate Clinton for her illegal private server. Loretta Lynch even meets with Bill Clinton to discuss it. Talk about COLLUSION.  Never mind about Fast and Furious,Bengasi,uranium one.....ECT....

 Rob,I'm going to say this one more time since you don't get it. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Look it up. Republicans stand with the constitution. Democrats are always trying to change it to meet their twisted narrative on how they "think' the country should be run.
Mark, I’m well aware our democracy is set up as a republic.  Wink If you choose to believe only Manafort was found guilty, that is your perogative. But I remember a head of the National Intelligence admitting to guilt, a Deputy Campaign advisor admitting guilt, a foreign policy advisor admitting guilt. The list is long enough that I’m probably forgetting some also. You can tell yourself that only Republicans stand with the Constitution, you’d be wrong in that aspect also.

 Well then stop referring to it as a democracy.

 As far as the constitution. Why is it every time something goes against the dems they say its against the constitution? I have news for you. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we have the "right" to healthcare. Also it doesn't say that women have the "right" to an abortion. It also doesn't say anywhere on what type of firearms we can or cannot own.  So tell me again which side abides by the constitution the way it was written by the founding fathers?  The Democrats constantly try to "rewrite" the constitution the way they see fit.
I hate to give a civics lesson. But we are a democracy.  coolsmiley And I will refer to it as I wish, thank you. Granted, we are not a direct democracy. But that is semantics. Maybe this will help you understand our form of government better.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/13/is-the-united-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0788da35c2e7


 Rob you can take your Washington Post civics lesson and shove it. Every Dem candidate for president has the same BS stands. Free healthcare,free college, Medicare for all,green new deal and open boarders. But not one has any idea how to pay for it. You think the economy is messed up now (it's not) just wait until the Dems get finished with it.
   The Democrat party doesn't give a crap about this country and is out to destroy it and Trump no matter what. That is evident to everyone who doesn't watch CNN and MSNBC.  Like Forrest Gump says. That's all I got to say about that.

 
It’s up to you whether you wish to learn or not. (Something about leading a horse to water) Do you truly believe Democrat’s hate America and want to destroy it ? You might be more enmeshed in the right wing koolaid than I realized.
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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2019, 12:10:10 PM »

Just imagine how much worse (actually better for the US) the Obama presidency would have been if the Republicans had been "special investigating" and indicting his administration for his entire term of office.

You usually need crimes in order to have investigations, particularly 'special' ones... Wink Wink



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/414869-obama-gop-has-racked-up-enough-indictments-to-field-a-football-team

You also need an FBI and DOJ that aren't in the regime's pocket and willing to over look those crimes.  You seem to continuously, conveniently overlook that fact.  And I'm not talking just members of the administration, I'm talking HMFIC, Chief cook and bottle washer.  IRS targeting, gun running, lying about Clinton's emails, oh yeah, that was just to the press and not the FBI so not a crime, right?

You must get dizzy from all that spinning.
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