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I purchased a 1999 Valk, with only 6500 miles on it....long story, but I put it on a trailer to come home to St. Louis MO from Chicago IL and my truck, the trailer and the Valk all got damaged from getting hit on the highway. I was working on the bike yesterday, and replaced the radiator and the tank that were damaged, and by the reserve coolant tank there was a sticker that read Model GL1500 CX. When I go hunting parts I never see the CX. It is either C CT or interstate. Can anyone tell me what the CX stands for? The bike came with the original Black leather saddle bags and the Honda windshield and backrest/luggage rack all Honda. Is this some variation of the Tourer model?
Thanks for any info and help, my first post to this board, only owned the Valk for 15 minutes when the accident happened, trying to put her back together.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2019, 08:40:29 AM » |
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I don't know what CX is, but Tourers all came with hard bags (like the interstate).
So yours is a standard.
Some later motels were deluxe (polished rims), but parts-wise... just go with 99 standard.
I don't know if CX might be a Canadian model?
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2019, 08:47:28 AM » |
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Thanks, and yes everything I have purchased for it has fit, they didn't change much. Thanks much for the input! I couldn't find any info on the internet for CX either. This bike is pristine, has all the original tags and stickers, so I know it was a original sticker from Honda factory. Oh well it might just remain a mystery?
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2019, 09:05:42 AM » |
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I started looking too... put gl1500cx into google and you can get some hits in europe and england.
I guessed about the deluxe one with the stripes and the clearcoated wheels, but I convinced myself that wasn't it...
Hopefully someone knows...
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2019, 09:11:52 AM » |
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The designation seems to appear only in 1999 and specifies F6C rather than Valkyrie. I'm only guessing but I believe that means it was a non-U.S. model equivalent to the GL1500C with very minor differences.
Got a picture? Do the front running lights show when it's on?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 09:24:24 AM » |
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Sorry to hear of your bad luck on your return trip.
The last character in the code is the model year designation.
1997 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer Code: GL1500CV; GL1500CTV
1998 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer Code: GL1500CW; GL1500CTW
1999 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500CX; GL1500CTX; GL1500CFX
2000 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500CY; GL1500CTY; GL1500CFY
2001 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500C1; GL1500CD1; GL1500CF1
2002 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe Code: GL1500C2; GL1500CD2
2003 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe Code: GL1500C3; GL1500CD3
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2019, 09:32:49 AM » |
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P.S. If you can't find this code on your bike, the 10th place on your VIN is the same year designation character: V, W, X, Y, 1, 2, or 3 If you're not sure of your bike's original destination country, the VIN characters 4-8 identify the basic model, the build, and the country for which the bike was intended. http://www.valkyrienorway.com/Discussion%20of%20Variants.html
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2019, 02:08:11 PM » |
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The European model would have a different tank emblem (it would say F6C) and I've believe round mirrors.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 03:50:18 PM » |
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Not sure, but the CX designation reminds me of the Honda CX500 and 650. They were the little bother/sister of the Goldwings of the time, the CX500 of the 1980’s with the fetter fairing, saddlebags etc, etc., were referred to as the Silerwing. Just my two cents worth. Ride safe, Bill
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2019, 12:42:07 PM » |
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Hey everybody, sorry for so late a reply, been working a lot, air conditioning season just started lol. The CX designation was on the paint color code sticker under the left side cover and on the frame next to the coolant reservoir tank. The tank does have the F6C emblem. Honestly Im not too worried about the CX it was more of a curiosity thing being that I couldn't find it on the internet.
I truly appreciate all the input from everyone. I have a bigger problem with the bike now. the 1,3,5 cylinders are not firing on idle. At higher RPM they do, but cold pipes at idle. Spark is fine. SO I am thinking the low speed jets are clogged up, or possibly the floats are stuck? Is it possible to take the bowls off the carbs and replace the low speed jets without pulling the entire carb assembly? And lastly since I am new to the Valkyrie thing....what is a normal price to check the jets and the floats on this bike at a Honda shop?
Thanks again everyone! Marty
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2019, 01:26:11 PM » |
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Hey everybody, sorry for so late a reply, been working a lot, air conditioning season just started lol. The CX designation was on the paint color code sticker under the left side cover and on the frame next to the coolant reservoir tank. The tank does have the F6C emblem. Honestly Im not too worried about the CX it was more of a curiosity thing being that I couldn't find it on the internet.
I truly appreciate all the input from everyone. I have a bigger problem with the bike now. the 1,3,5 cylinders are not firing on idle. At higher RPM they do, but cold pipes at idle. Spark is fine. SO I am thinking the low speed jets are clogged up, or possibly the floats are stuck? Is it possible to take the bowls off the carbs and replace the low speed jets without pulling the entire carb assembly? And lastly since I am new to the Valkyrie thing....what is a normal price to check the jets and the floats on this bike at a Honda shop?
Thanks again everyone! Marty
To check them at a Honda shop? Too much!
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2019, 01:56:35 PM » |
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Sorry to hear of your bad luck on your return trip.
The last character in the code is the model year designation.
1997 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer Code: GL1500CV; GL1500CTV
1998 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer Code: GL1500CW; GL1500CTW
1999 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500CX; GL1500CTX; GL1500CFX
2000 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500CY; GL1500CTY; GL1500CFY
2001 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500C1; GL1500CD1; GL1500CF1
2002 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe Code: GL1500C2; GL1500CD2
2003 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe Code: GL1500C3; GL1500CD3
I always wondered why mine was a GL1500CTY. I assumed the Y meant it was for the Canadian market; now I know otherwise. Thanks!
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2019, 05:43:56 PM » |
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Sorry to hear of your bad luck on your return trip.
The last character in the code is the model year designation.
1997 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer Code: GL1500CV; GL1500CTV
1998 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer Code: GL1500CW; GL1500CTW
1999 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500CX; GL1500CTX; GL1500CFX
2000 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CT Valkyrie Tourer; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500CY; GL1500CTY; GL1500CFY
2001 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe; Honda GL1500CF Valkyrie Interstate Code: GL1500C1; GL1500CD1; GL1500CF1
2002 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe Code: GL1500C2; GL1500CD2
2003 Europe, North America, Australia, Japan Name: Honda GL1500C Valkyrie (F6C); Honda GL1500CD Valkyrie Deluxe Code: GL1500C3; GL1500CD3
I always wondered why mine was a GL1500CTY. I assumed the Y meant it was for the Canadian market; now I know otherwise. Thanks! It's too bad there's not a game show for Valkyrie Trivia... I could rock that! 
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2019, 01:44:26 AM » |
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Hey everybody, sorry for so late a reply, been working a lot, air conditioning season just started lol. The CX designation was on the paint color code sticker under the left side cover and on the frame next to the coolant reservoir tank. The tank does have the F6C emblem. Honestly Im not too worried about the CX it was more of a curiosity thing being that I couldn't find it on the internet.
I truly appreciate all the input from everyone. I have a bigger problem with the bike now. the 1,3,5 cylinders are not firing on idle. At higher RPM they do, but cold pipes at idle. Spark is fine. SO I am thinking the low speed jets are clogged up, or possibly the floats are stuck? Is it possible to take the bowls off the carbs and replace the low speed jets without pulling the entire carb assembly? And lastly since I am new to the Valkyrie thing....what is a normal price to check the jets and the floats on this bike at a Honda shop?
Thanks again everyone! Marty
If you can find a Honda dealer that has a mechanic that knows Valkyries (some dealers around here won’t work on a bike older than 10 years for some unknown, stupid reasons), expect a bill around $800 to $1000. Removing the bowls and replacing jets with the carbs in place can and has been done. It takes a lot of effort, especially getting the bowl screws to loosen. They seem to weld in place and are easily “boogered” even if you have JIS screwdrivers and bits. Very limited room. You won’t be able to clean the passages and ports adequately if carbs left in place. Do yourself a favor and pull the carbs and buy new jets and the complete rebuild kit from Rich at Redeyetech. There are lots of us here that can answer any questions you may have. It’s also a good time to replace the tubing and fuel lines. Good luck...
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2019, 11:07:47 AM » |
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I have a UK Valk, if yours is still stock it has smaller "pig Tails" extra foam in the air cleaner and smaller main jets
If you take the bowls of in place make sure you get a good grip on the bowl screws, don't want to round them off, when I changed my jets I did it in place, fiddly but doable
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2019, 06:43:09 AM » |
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Hey everybody, sorry for so late a reply, been working a lot, air conditioning season just started lol. The CX designation was on the paint color code sticker under the left side cover and on the frame next to the coolant reservoir tank. The tank does have the F6C emblem. Honestly Im not too worried about the CX it was more of a curiosity thing being that I couldn't find it on the internet.
I truly appreciate all the input from everyone. I have a bigger problem with the bike now. the 1,3,5 cylinders are not firing on idle. At higher RPM they do, but cold pipes at idle. Spark is fine. SO I am thinking the low speed jets are clogged up, or possibly the floats are stuck? Is it possible to take the bowls off the carbs and replace the low speed jets without pulling the entire carb assembly? And lastly since I am new to the Valkyrie thing....what is a normal price to check the jets and the floats on this bike at a Honda shop?
Thanks again everyone! Marty
If you can find a Honda dealer that has a mechanic that knows Valkyries (some dealers around here won’t work on a bike older than 10 years for some unknown, stupid reasons), expect a bill around $800 to $1000. Removing the bowls and replacing jets with the carbs in place can and has been done. It takes a lot of effort, especially getting the bowl screws to loosen. They seem to weld in place and are easily “boogered” even if you have JIS screwdrivers and bits. Very limited room. You won’t be able to clean the passages and ports adequately if carbs left in place. Do yourself a favor and pull the carbs and buy new jets and the complete rebuild kit from Rich at Redeyetech. There are lots of us here that can answer any questions you may have. It’s also a good time to replace the tubing and fuel lines. Good luck... Well 9ball....you are/were spot on....the local dealer will do it as they have been around forever....and the price they quoted me was "around $1000". Bring the bike up, park it, and when your que comes up we will work on it. Lead time around 3 weeks min.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2019, 07:07:01 AM » |
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I have a UK Valk, if yours is still stock it has smaller "pig Tails" extra foam in the air cleaner and smaller main jets
If you take the bowls of in place make sure you get a good grip on the bowl screws, don't want to round them off, when I changed my jets I did it in place, fiddly but doable
Well sure don;t know about the jet size yet....but there is NO foam in the air cleaner, it is pleated paper, I had to take the tank off to replace the radiator, so pulled the air cleaner and cleaned it. It still had the original Honda green air cleaner. Here she is partially cobbled together, and a pic of the sticker by the coolant reservoir showing the CX sticker and the color code......hummm well that didn't work, guess I will have to read the section on posting images.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2019, 07:24:29 AM » |
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The designation seems to appear only in 1999 and specifies F6C rather than Valkyrie. I'm only guessing but I believe that means it was a non-U.S. model equivalent to the GL1500C with very minor differences.
Got a picture? Do the front running lights show when it's on?
Yes the front running lights come on as a US model would. Can't seem to figure out how to post pictures, when I click the icon, it just puts img in brackets in text. Maybe I don't have enough time on this forum with this being my first post? 
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2019, 11:21:55 AM » |
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The designation seems to appear only in 1999 and specifies F6C rather than Valkyrie. I'm only guessing but I believe that means it was a non-U.S. model equivalent to the GL1500C with very minor differences.
Got a picture? Do the front running lights show when it's on?
For whatever reason it won't let me post pictures. I have tried different methods no luck. Any help with that would be appreciated.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2019, 11:27:41 AM » |
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Hey everybody, sorry for so late a reply, been working a lot, air conditioning season just started lol. The CX designation was on the paint color code sticker under the left side cover and on the frame next to the coolant reservoir tank. The tank does have the F6C emblem. Honestly Im not too worried about the CX it was more of a curiosity thing being that I couldn't find it on the internet.
I truly appreciate all the input from everyone. I have a bigger problem with the bike now. the 1,3,5 cylinders are not firing on idle. At higher RPM they do, but cold pipes at idle. Spark is fine. SO I am thinking the low speed jets are clogged up, or possibly the floats are stuck? Is it possible to take the bowls off the carbs and replace the low speed jets without pulling the entire carb assembly? And lastly since I am new to the Valkyrie thing....what is a normal price to check the jets and the floats on this bike at a Honda shop?
Thanks again everyone! Marty
If you can find a Honda dealer that has a mechanic that knows Valkyries (some dealers around here won’t work on a bike older than 10 years for some unknown, stupid reasons), expect a bill around $800 to $1000. Removing the bowls and replacing jets with the carbs in place can and has been done. It takes a lot of effort, especially getting the bowl screws to loosen. They seem to weld in place and are easily “boogered” even if you have JIS screwdrivers and bits. Very limited room. You won’t be able to clean the passages and ports adequately if carbs left in place. Do yourself a favor and pull the carbs and buy new jets and the complete rebuild kit from Rich at Redeyetech. There are lots of us here that can answer any questions you may have. It’s also a good time to replace the tubing and fuel lines. Good luck... Thanks, I just read the short tutorial on pulling the carbs, and bungee cording the whole mess up. I have already had the air box off my Tourer that I sold, so I have already been that far. It doesn't seem like too much to pull the intake manifolds on each side, except I am not sure how those chrome tubes are hooked up to the manifolds. I am going to try and hunt down the rebuild kit from Rich. Thanks for the direction for getting the parts....guess I will have a bit of learning curve here shortly lol. Marty
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I have a UK Valk, if yours is still stock it has smaller "pig Tails" extra foam in the air cleaner and smaller main jets
If you take the bowls of in place make sure you get a good grip on the bowl screws, don't want to round them off, when I changed my jets I did it in place, fiddly but doable
Well sure don;t know about the jet size yet....but there is NO foam in the air cleaner, it is pleated paper, I had to take the tank off to replace the radiator, so pulled the air cleaner and cleaned it. It still had the original Honda green air cleaner. Here she is partially cobbled together, and a pic of the sticker by the coolant reservoir showing the CX sticker and the color code......hummm well that didn't work, guess I will have to read the section on posting images. The area the coolant tank is the are that they stick the paint codes... But theh F6C on the tank is not on many models the UK foam in the air cleaner sat on top of the std one, mine still had parts of it but not now, the other thing mine had was coolant hoses to the carbs but that is another thing that most remove.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2019, 01:43:48 PM » |
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I have a UK Valk, if yours is still stock it has smaller "pig Tails" extra foam in the air cleaner and smaller main jets
If you take the bowls of in place make sure you get a good grip on the bowl screws, don't want to round them off, when I changed my jets I did it in place, fiddly but doable
Well sure don;t know about the jet size yet....but there is NO foam in the air cleaner, it is pleated paper, I had to take the tank off to replace the radiator, so pulled the air cleaner and cleaned it. It still had the original Honda green air cleaner. Here she is partially cobbled together, and a pic of the sticker by the coolant reservoir showing the CX sticker and the color code......hummm well that didn't work, guess I will have to read the section on posting images. The area the coolant tank is the are that they stick the paint codes... But theh F6C on the tank is not on many models the UK foam in the air cleaner sat on top of the std one, mine still had parts of it but not now, the other thing mine had was coolant hoses to the carbs but that is another thing that most remove. Didn’t yours also have something different with the choke or throttle linkage ?
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I have a UK Valk, if yours is still stock it has smaller "pig Tails" extra foam in the air cleaner and smaller main jets
If you take the bowls of in place make sure you get a good grip on the bowl screws, don't want to round them off, when I changed my jets I did it in place, fiddly but doable
Well sure don;t know about the jet size yet....but there is NO foam in the air cleaner, it is pleated paper, I had to take the tank off to replace the radiator, so pulled the air cleaner and cleaned it. It still had the original Honda green air cleaner. Here she is partially cobbled together, and a pic of the sticker by the coolant reservoir showing the CX sticker and the color code......hummm well that didn't work, guess I will have to read the section on posting images. The area the coolant tank is the are that they stick the paint codes... But theh F6C on the tank is not on many models the UK foam in the air cleaner sat on top of the std one, mine still had parts of it but not now, the other thing mine had was coolant hoses to the carbs but that is another thing that most remove. Didn’t yours also have something different with the choke or throttle linkage ? Idle screw adjust is easy to access and it has a throttle position sensor on the end of the carbs too Both visible in the left of this pic 
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2019, 06:10:27 AM » |
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My idle adjustment is between the 1 and 3 cylinder not on the end of 5 like yours. And it is vertical rather than horizontal.
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2019, 03:49:03 PM » |
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OK well I guess I solved my own mystery.....I was going through the Valkyrie checking tightness on all the bolts etc. Came across a aluminum tag zip tied to the windshield mount, it is in German, and appears to be what we would consider a state safety inspection. Of course all Valks were made here, so I guess this one went to Germany, then came back to the states.
Most likely scenario is a serviceman's bike.
Thanks for all the responses!
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Far as the carbs go give Bob-arricrat-a call. He is a board sponsor and his phone# is in his ad. BUT be Warned-Bob is Always busy but if he takes the job they will come back RIGHT. AND it could take awhile. He books his performance work weeks and months in advance. The worst he could say is no. Bob saved my 2015 Inzane. Good Guy!  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2019, 09:00:49 AM » |
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I have a UK Valk, if yours is still stock it has smaller "pig Tails" extra foam in the air cleaner and smaller main jets
If you take the bowls of in place make sure you get a good grip on the bowl screws, don't want to round them off, when I changed my jets I did it in place, fiddly but doable
Great set of Videos on taking the carbs out and setting them properly so you don't have to sync them after on the bike. I gotta admit I was a little intimidated about taking them off completely, but now I am going to go through all six and do it right. Thanks!  Well sure don;t know about the jet size yet....but there is NO foam in the air cleaner, it is pleated paper, I had to take the tank off to replace the radiator, so pulled the air cleaner and cleaned it. It still had the original Honda green air cleaner. Here she is partially cobbled together, and a pic of the sticker by the coolant reservoir showing the CX sticker and the color code......hummm well that didn't work, guess I will have to read the section on posting images. The area the coolant tank is the are that they stick the paint codes... But theh F6C on the tank is not on many models the UK foam in the air cleaner sat on top of the std one, mine still had parts of it but not now, the other thing mine had was coolant hoses to the carbs but that is another thing that most remove. Didn’t yours also have something different with the choke or throttle linkage ? Idle screw adjust is easy to access and it has a throttle position sensor on the end of the carbs too Both visible in the left of this pic 
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2019, 09:22:57 AM » |
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Seems a more logical place for that idle screw. I don't like squeezing my finger to get to mine, especially when the engine is hot!
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Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good, there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood? - John Prine 97 Tourer "Silver Bullet" 01 Interstate "Ruby" 
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