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installing back wheel on Honda Valkyrie 1500

Started by barryroach0220, Tue 28, May 2019, 20:00:01

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barryroach0220

Hi everyone,
My first post in the forum.  I need someones help.  I replaced the back tire and replaced the 2 o-rings in the flange and the one in the final drive.  I've changed the back tire many times but this time I couldn't get the wheel to seat properly in the final drive.  I finally got the wheel on.  My question.  If the wheel is on with the spacer and brake caliper, does that mean the wheel is on correctly.  I'm trying to attach a picture.  The black cover on the final drive doesn't look right.  Can anyone help me with this?
Sorry, couldn't figure out how to attach a picture but I can send a picture via email or text.  Thanks, BR

Chrisj CMA

Let me guess. There is a line/ small groove that you don't remember seeing and now that you are looking at it you think it should be closer to the dust cover.

It's fine. I hope you torqued the axel nut with the four final drive bolts loose and then immediatly torqued those four bolts.

If you did you should be golden

Valker

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Rams

If we knew where you were, there might be a local rider close that could take a look advise you.

Rams.  :crazy2:
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barryroach0220

ChrisJ:  You are absolutely right.  I see the groove and it doesn't look like the wheel is fully seated in the final drive.  If you say it's good, I'm going to finish putting it back together.  I torqued the axle nut and torqued the 4 bolts on the final drive.  the thrust washer is the plastic washer right?  I installed everything that I took off.   Thanks for your confirmation.

barryroach0220

I live in the metro Atlanta, Georgia area.
Lawrenceville, GA to be exact

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: barryroach0220 on Wed 29, May 2019, 22:25:03
ChrisJ:  You are absolutely right.  I see the groove and it doesn't look like the wheel is fully seated in the final drive.  If you say it's good, I'm going to finish putting it back together.  I torqued the axle nut and torqued the 4 bolts on the final drive.  the thrust washer is the plastic washer right?  I installed everything that I took off.   Thanks for your confirmation.

Ya you are not the first to be bothered by that line. Sometimes when placing the wheel back into the drive you don't get that " I'm there" feeling. But if the wheel stayed in place good enough to get the axel through it was there. And like you said if all the metal is in and the axel is tightened down it's all good :cooldude:

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Quote from: barryroach0220 on Wed 29, May 2019, 22:27:07
I live in the metro Atlanta, Georgia area.
Lawrenceville, GA to be exact

You could add that to your profile if you wanted to.

Alberta Patriot

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 30, May 2019, 05:42:24
Quote from: barryroach0220 on Wed 29, May 2019, 22:25:03
ChrisJ:  You are absolutely right.  I see the groove and it doesn't look like the wheel is fully seated in the final drive.  If you say it's good, I'm going to finish putting it back together.  I torqued the axle nut and torqued the 4 bolts on the final drive.  the thrust washer is the plastic washer right?  I installed everything that I took off.   Thanks for your confirmation.

Ya you are not the first to be bothered by that line. Sometimes when placing the wheel back into the drive you don't get that " I'm there" feeling. But if the wheel stayed in place good enough to get the axel through it was there. And like you said if all the metal is in and the axel is tightened down it's all good :cooldude:
And...if you didn't, you could not get the brake caliper bracket back into place.
Say what you mean, Mean what you say.

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Quote from: 7th_son on Thu 30, May 2019, 07:26:50
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 30, May 2019, 05:42:24
Quote from: barryroach0220 on Wed 29, May 2019, 22:25:03
ChrisJ:  You are absolutely right.  I see the groove and it doesn't look like the wheel is fully seated in the final drive.  If you say it's good, I'm going to finish putting it back together.  I torqued the axle nut and torqued the 4 bolts on the final drive.  the thrust washer is the plastic washer right?  I installed everything that I took off.   Thanks for your confirmation.

Ya you are not the first to be bothered by that line. Sometimes when placing the wheel back into the drive you don't get that " I'm there" feeling. But if the wheel stayed in place good enough to get the axel through it was there. And like you said if all the metal is in and the axel is tightened down it's all good :cooldude:
And...if you didn't, you could not get the brake caliper bracket back into place.

:cooldude:

Rams

Quote from: barryroach0220 on Wed 29, May 2019, 22:27:07
I live in the metro Atlanta, Georgia area.
Lawrenceville, GA to be exact

I'd bet there is/are some knowledgable Valkyrie riders near you who would be happy to assist/advise you on this and folks you'll enjoy riding with.   I feel certain you will be glad you made their acquaintance.

Rams
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Pluggy

Hello Barry.  You may know this already.  The rear axle can be inserted through the rear wheel to support it as you line up the splines.  Makes it easy to mate them up.  Once the wheel is pressed fully into the driving splines, the axle comes out and you can put the rest of the parts together.

barryroach0220

Thanks for the tip about the axle and thank you for making confident that I have the wheel on right.  I love this forum. In addition to changing the tires,  I replaced the seals in the brake calipers because I suspected them of not operating properly because the brake pads wore out at each tire change and I use the brakes sparingly.  The wheel is on.  I'll just need to bleed the brakes now.  So if anyone has any tips or potential problems I may encounter I will appreciate them.

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Chrisj CMA

Quote from: barryroach0220 on Thu 30, May 2019, 20:10:32
Thanks for the tip about the axle and thank you for making confident that I have the wheel on right.  I love this forum. In addition to changing the tires,  I replaced the seals in the brake calipers because I suspected them of not operating properly because the brake pads wore out at each tire change and I use the brakes sparingly.  The wheel is on.  I'll just need to bleed the brakes now.  So if anyone has any tips or potential problems I may encounter I will appreciate them.

I changed seals on front calipers on a friends bike. No way to get any pressure to bleed until we filled the lines backwards with a syringe at the bleeders. Then all went normally.

barryroach0220

A syringe.  Cool, I would never have thought to do that.  I watched youtube videos on a guy bleeding the brakes.  It appeared that he was having trouble getting it done.  Thanks for the great tip. 

3fan4life

Quote from: barryroach0220 on Fri 31, May 2019, 06:09:40
A syringe.  Cool, I would never have thought to do that.  I watched youtube videos on a guy bleeding the brakes.  It appeared that he was having trouble getting it done.  Thanks for the great tip. 

I bought a pneumatic brake bleeder from Harbor Freight it makes bleeding the brakes and clutch much easier to do.


https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html
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baird4444

Quote from: 3fan4life on Fri 31, May 2019, 06:32:35
Quote from: barryroach0220 on Fri 31, May 2019, 06:09:40
A syringe.  Cool, I would never have thought to do that.  I watched youtube videos on a guy bleeding the brakes.  It appeared that he was having trouble getting it done.  Thanks for the great tip. 
I bought a pneumatic brake bleeder from Harbor Freight it makes bleeding the brakes and clutch much easier to do.
https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

I use this one-  https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-bleeder-and-vacuum-pump-kit-63391.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+bleeder
and it works great.I just need a second person to keep the reservoir topped off. great way tochange out fluids.
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da prez

  The syringe method is a version of reverse bleeding.  Remove the furthest caliper. Remove the pads. Put in a piece of 1/4 plywood or worn out brake pad. Pump the brakes until the pistons come out against the spacer.  Open the bleeder and work like you are bleeding the brakes with the bleeder to the top. When fluid starts coming out , shut the bleeder and have the brake hose to the top and hose as straight as possible. Push the pistons back in all the way. They should now be bleed. Repeat on other calipers.

                                        da prez