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Started by barney fife, Tue 18, Jun 2019, 09:50:28

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barney fife

21 Tenere 700
18 CB1000R Neo Cafe
16 Super Tenere
16 R3 Endurance Race Bike
14 Valkyrie

Jambriwal

Long way around. Figured it was a sales pitch. I would like to ride one with the suspension upgrades to compare. I have upgraded suspension components on other brands and mostly satisfied with results. Mass produced vehicles could cerainly be improved but like in racing more $$$$ means faster machinery. How fast can you afford to go.

barney fife

Yea it might be a sales pitch.  The AK20s definitely improved the front and of course it exposed that the back could use a little work, so I got their Penske shock.  I would not say it was night and day difference though, but the bike sure is sweet for a 750 pounder.  So far the Commander II I have on the front shows no sign of cupping, been running 39psi front and 41 rear.  Still undecided about pressure. 
21 Tenere 700
18 CB1000R Neo Cafe
16 Super Tenere
16 R3 Endurance Race Bike
14 Valkyrie

hubcapsc


I like his videos  :) ... traxxion did my bike...



-Mike

Verismo

Quote from: hubcapsc on Sat 29, Jun 2019, 09:46:24

I like his videos  :) ... traxxion did my bike...


-Mike

Sweet, Mike. I don't think I'd previously read that you'd done the Traxxion upgrade.  Mind sharing a little about what you think concerning the before and after?

Jason

hubcapsc

Quote from: Verismo on Sun 30, Jun 2019, 03:56:54
Quote from: hubcapsc on Sat 29, Jun 2019, 09:46:24

I like his videos  :) ... traxxion did my bike...


-Mike

Sweet, Mike. I don't think I'd previously read that you'd done the Traxxion upgrade.  Mind sharing a little about what you think concerning the before and after?

Jason


I think it is hard to objectively enumerate all the differences. If I was racing
my bike hard every week I could probably talk about fade or how well the
rebound/compression/spring-rate combination handles bumpy curves...  ;)

I can say the bike used to be practically sagged halfway or more just sitting
there, but not anymore.

I really like my 1500's forks and progressive springs, but now when I sit on the
1500 the forks seem unsubstantial compared to the 1800's Traxxionized forks.

I stayed on the road two weeks when we went to InZane this year... I enjoyed
having good suspension all 5000 miles of it...

-Mike

Frank4

I got some questions about the Traxxion suspension .  My idea of a suspension improvement is the minimizing the impact of the stutter bumps that I encounter on my rides on secondary roads in North Carolina.  The Valkyrie doesn't wobble or misbehave at my level of riding (which is moderately fast I guess) but is a jerky and uncomfortable over these road irregularities.
I do have some experience with suspension upgrades - mostly not impressive.  My first was replacement of stock shock on my Datsun 280 Z with "performance" shocks which turned a nice riding car into an uncomfortable wagon.  From then on, I've been hesitant to spend money on suspension components for fear of making the bike less compliant over the majority of road surfaces I encounter. However, I did try a 2 Brothers Racing triple clamp swap partnered with a Race Tech fork emulator for my Valkyrie 1500.  The rear shocks were kept stock.  I enjoyed working on the bike but I can't tell if there was any improvement when I was finished.  Progressive Suspension rear shocks and springs for my V Rod was an improvement but the suspension, given its limited rear travel, is still stiff feeling.
So, what I want is a Valkyrie 1800 suspension set up that is supple/compliant over most small road irregularities that won't wobble in curves at speed.  Did Traxxion's system do that for you?

hubcapsc


So, what I want is a Valkyrie 1800 suspension set up that is supple/compliant over most small road irregularities that won't wobble in curves at speed.  Did Traxxion's system do that for you?

I feel small road irregularities through the rear shock in a way that is similar
to before. Don't wobble in curves at speed  :) ...

-Mike

Verismo


[/quote]

I think it is hard to objectively enumerate all the differences. If I was racing
my bike hard every week I could probably talk about fade or how well the
rebound/compression/spring-rate combination handles bumpy curves...  ;)

I can say the bike used to be practically sagged halfway or more just sitting
there, but not anymore.

I really like my 1500's forks and progressive springs, but now when I sit on the
1500 the forks seem unsubstantial compared to the 1800's Traxxionized forks.

I stayed on the road two weeks when we went to InZane this year... I enjoyed
having good suspension all 5000 miles of it...

-Mike
[/quote]

Thanks for the info, Mike.  It's helpful to hear(read).  I have the same trouble sometimes articulating differences in specific ride changes, especially if the change isn't fresh, due in part to riding being such an overall experience.

It sounds like the upgrade is a welcome one, especially the harder one pushes his bike.  It's a lot of money, though.  I'm not sure I can justify 3000+ dollars for it.  I imagine, when the time comes, I'll just end up doing the monotubes/progressive rear, and tapered bearings.  My biggest concern is finding a shop around south Texas that I can trust for that kind of work. 

Jason