New York has gone off the deep end

[98valk]

and embraced UN 2030 Agenda and ensuring they will be venezuela in the future.

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060616261

The comment ended months of speculation over the fate of climate legislation in New York. Democratic lawmakers, who seized complete control of state government when they took over the state Senate last fall, had been pushing a bill called the "Climate and Community Protection Act." The bill would spend 40% of the state's clean energy revenues on energy efficiency measures and renewable installations in disadvantaged communities.

That drew repeated public objections from Cuomo, who said he wanted to ensure that environmental revenue was spent on environmental programs. Ultimately, the two sides settled on a compromise: At least 35% of revenues would go to disadvantaged communities. That funding could rise as high as 40%, which would amount to $370 million in fiscal 2018-19.

"It was a question of the distribution of the funding," Cuomo told WAMC. "I understand the politics on these issues. Everyone wants to make all these advocacy groups happy. Taxpayers' money is taxpayers' money. And if it's taxpayers' money for an environmental purpose, I want to make sure it's going to an environmental purpose.

"This transformation to a new green economy is very expensive. We don't have the luxury of using funding for political purposes."

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The voters got what they wanted.

I think they are  but they did it to themselves.

[phideux]

As long as people are breathing there will be carbon emissions. Every one of you New Yorkers, get a big plastic bag and put it over your head.................

[F6Dave]

$370 million!  Most will be wasted, and what's left will probably go to feel-good projects run by well connected cronies that do nothing for the environment.  They could probably help the environment more if they spent it all on road improvements.  Vehicles create less pollution when they are moving than when they sit idling in traffic jams.

[old2soon]

        Well when ya say it THAT way it all makes sense-IF yer a dumb azz!  Any body STILL believe the dems Are THE answer?  Ponder that fer a bit. RIDE SAFE.

[F6Dave]

I should have said that flowing traffic pollutes less per passenger mile than stop and go traffic.  The dem solution is for us to ditch our Valkyries, cars, and trucks and ride a train or bus.  Never mind that much of public transportation pollutes more per passenger mile because they ride around empty so much of the time.

[old2soon]

I should have said that flowing traffic pollutes less per passenger mile than stop and go traffic.  The dem solution is for us to ditch our Valkyries, cars, and trucks and ride a train or bus.  Never mind that much of public transportation pollutes more per passenger mile because they ride around empty so much of the time.

              Yeah-No Bus or Train stop in front of my house nor do non existence train go anywhere I want/need/should go. RIDE SAFE.

[98valk]

I should have said that flowing traffic pollutes less per passenger mile than stop and go traffic.  The dem solution is for us to ditch our Valkyries, cars, and trucks and ride a train or bus.  Never mind that much of public transportation pollutes more per passenger mile because they ride around empty so much of the time.

correct and its worst than that. increasing a hwy from three lanes to four increases the pollution per square area since there are more vehicles now in that square area due to the increased lane. Actually had that said to me by a state epa official and said that was the policy they had to meet of the Fed epa. they are all insane with their #s on a spread sheet.

[F6Dave]

I should have said that flowing traffic pollutes less per passenger mile than stop and go traffic.  The dem solution is for us to ditch our Valkyries, cars, and trucks and ride a train or bus.  Never mind that much of public transportation pollutes more per passenger mile because they ride around empty so much of the time.

              Yeah-No Bus or Train stop in front of my house nor do non existence train go anywhere I want/need/should go. RIDE SAFE.

That's a critical point.  Public transportation rarely goes from where you are, to where you want to be.

Years ago I read a great op-ed about personal transportation.  This guy was in college and had an old beater of a car.  Out on a date, his girlfriend pointed to a new Mercedes next to them at a stop light.  "Isn't he lucky", she said.  He responded "what's the big deal?  I can go ANYWHERE he can go!"

He made a great point.  Personal transportation allows us to travel hundreds of miles to any place we want on a whim.  We don't need to buy a ticket or get permission from the government.  We should never take this freedom for granted.

[Patrick]

Not all NYS voters got what they wanted or what they voted for.  The wrong guys [ or gals] just happened to win the vote which has been happening for too long. Upstate NY is mostly conservative.  My opinion is that this legislation is a joke, just as NYS politics has become.

NYS stopped gas drilling years ago and refuses to allow it to resume.  Natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel and we have a lot of it. Anyone burning it prefers it especially the large trucking companies that have converted their fleets.

To show just how crazy NYS has become, illegals are now allowed drivers licenses. They already receive welfare benefits and will probably soon receive free college tuition.

I doubt I'll be resident much more than a couple more years.

[phideux]

Not all NYS voters got what they wanted or what they voted for.  The wrong guys [ or gals] just happened to win the vote which has been happening for too long. Upstate NY is mostly conservative.  My opinion is that this legislation is a joke, just as NYS politics has become.

NYS stopped gas drilling years ago and refuses to allow it to resume.  Natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel and we have a lot of it. Anyone burning it prefers it especially the large trucking companies that have converted their fleets.

To show just how crazy NYS has become, illegals are now allowed drivers licenses. They already receive welfare benefits and will probably soon receive free college tuition.

I doubt I'll be resident much more than a couple more years.

Plus those illegals can now legally piss and crap in the streets, in public. Great place New York.

[Patrick]

Not all NYS voters got what they wanted or what they voted for.  The wrong guys [ or gals] just happened to win the vote which has been happening for too long. Upstate NY is mostly conservative.  My opinion is that this legislation is a joke, just as NYS politics has become.

NYS stopped gas drilling years ago and refuses to allow it to resume.  Natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel and we have a lot of it. Anyone burning it prefers it especially the large trucking companies that have converted their fleets.

To show just how crazy NYS has become, illegals are now allowed drivers licenses. They already receive welfare benefits and will probably soon receive free college tuition.

I doubt I'll be resident much more than a couple more years.

Plus those illegals can now legally piss and poop in the streets, in public. Great place New York.

Thats part of why I want to move out, but, NY isn't the only place that allows that.

[F6Dave]

While New Yorkers are worrying about catastrophic warming, I just saw that Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park could see up to 7 inches of snow tonight.  While that road can see snow any time of year, to get that much on the first day of summer is very unusual.

[Valkorado]

While New Yorkers are worrying about catastrophic warming, I just saw that Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park could see up to 7 inches of snow tonight.  While that road can see snow any time of year, to get that much on the first day of summer is very unusual.

Yep,  pretty interesting spring and early summer thus far.   32° predicted here for tomorrow night,  30° Sunday night.  And we just replanted the flowers.   

[Patrick]

I guess the liberals finally got one thing right, its no longer gorebal, err, global warming; they now call it climate change. Personally I would like a little more warmth.

[Bighead]

Global warming 

[baird4444]

While New Yorkers are worrying about catastrophic warming, I just saw that Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park could see up to 7 inches of snow tonight.  While that road can see snow any time of year, to get that much on the first day of summer is very unusual.

good point... yellowstone had snow today, prolly upset some oriental tourist....
Dubois, Wy had a projected high of 43 degrees...
  so much for global warming....

[98valk]

mini ice age is starting

https://abruptearthchanges.com/2018/01/14/climate-change-grand-solar-minimum-and-cosmic-rays/

What to expect in a Grand Solar Minimum. How does an increase in galactic cosmic rays affect the Earth’s climate and also tectonic activity?

Here is a simplified description of the basic mechanism:

A solar maximum is the period within the 11-year solar cycle of high solar magnetic field and high sunspot count. Sunspots are highly magnetic and visually dark spots or ‘holes’ in the photosphere of the sun, where solar flares can erupt.

A solar minimum is the low activity trough of the 11-year solar cycle (Schwabe Cycle). A Grand Solar Minimum is a period of several successive very low Schwabe Cycles, usually coinciding with phases of climate disruption and – in the long run -cooling. An example is the Maunder Minimum (c. 1645 and 1715) that coincided with the coldest phase of the Little Ice Age. The Little Ice Age, from which we have been emerging since c. 1850, was the coldest period of at least the last 8,000 years, possibly the entire Holocene. Grand Solar Minima recur in clusters roughly every 200-400 years. 27 Grand Minima have been identified during the Holocene (Usoskin et al. 2007). Thus, we were in Grand Solar Minimum about 1/6 of the total time.


2       Solar Minimum

During a solar minimum – and particularly – in a Grand Solar Minimum, more cosmic rays enter Earth’s atmosphere. Here, these high velocity particles (mostly protons) collide with atmospheric atoms and dissociate in a cascading mode into smaller subatomic particles. These particles act as cloud nuclei by ionization and propagate low level cloud formation. Some particles may reach the Earth’s surface and even penetrate it. In this way, more cosmic rays accelerate storm formation, erratic rainfall, snowstorms, hail, local flooding, and in the long run – global cooling. (Fig. 2).

We add to this:  Earthquakes, volcanoes, lightning, and other electric events and an enhanced risk for a solar flare that can disrupt our power grid.

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Some need to look a bit beyond we humans.

One volcano eruption "triggered" climate change around the whole globe for 2 or more years.

https://www.inquisitr.com/974915/13th-century-mystery-eruption-caused-by-indonesian-volcano/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/05/medieval-volcano-disaster-london-graves

The eruption threw Volkswagen Beetle sized rocks over 20 miles and spewed billions of tons of ash into the atmosphere.

Here's  a kinda 8th grade video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpqcixiZX64

[F6Dave]

While New Yorkers are worrying about catastrophic warming, I just saw that Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park could see up to 7 inches of snow tonight.  While that road can see snow any time of year, to get that much on the first day of summer is very unusual.

good point... yellowstone had snow today, prolly upset some oriental tourist....
Dubois, Wy had a projected high of 43 degrees...
  so much for global warming....

I just looked at the map and Trail Ridge Road is still closed from the snow last night!

[Patrick]

Some folks just don't want to know about weather history.

[F6Dave]

39 degrees at my house right now.

[Valkorado]

39 degrees at my house right now.

29° here.   Aah,  summer!

[F6Dave]

The NWS website reports a location North of Kremmling received over 13 inches of snow from the storm.  Two other locations reported about 10 inches.  I've lived in Colorado for 50+ years and have never seen that much snow in late June.

[Bighead]

The NWS website reports a location North of Kremmling received over 13 inches of snow from the storm.  Two other locations reported about 10 inches.  I've lived in Colorado for 50+ years and have never seen that much snow in late June.

Send Al Gore an email and ask him what is happening? He has gotten filthy rich off of this sham so he should have the answers.

[Patrick]

Climate change, I watched our congress discussing it last night on TV.  OMG !

[98valk]

The NWS website reports a location North of Kremmling received over 13 inches of snow from the storm.  Two other locations reported about 10 inches.  I've lived in Colorado for 50+ years and have never seen that much snow in late June.

Send Al Gore an email and ask him what is happening? He has gotten filthy rich off of this sham so he should have the answers.

al gore jr is a liar and traitor like his father senator al gore sr who basically was a KGB operative. made the family money in the oil industry.

https://www.usapoliticstoday.org/scientists-al-gore-liar-climate-change/
Over 31,000 scientists disagree with Al Gore, and have come forward and stated that ‘catastrophic man-made global warming’ is a complete hoax and science lie.

There are the more than 31,000 American scientists (to date) who have signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative and 9,029 of them hold PhDs in their respective fields.

Many of those scientists who signed the petition were encouraged to speak out in favor of the truth after retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist John L. Casey revealed that solar cycles are largely responsible for warming periods on Earth – not human activity.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/al-gore-runs-global-warming-racket/
Five Ways We Know Al Gore's Been Running A Global Warming Racket
Fraud: Ten years ago Monday, Al Gore said we had only a decade left to save the planet from global warming. But Earth has been doing just fine. Why do we listen to this man?

While preening at the Sundance Film Festival in January 2006 during the premiere of his "An Inconvenient Truth" fib-umentary, Gore made his grand declaration. The former vice president said, in the words of the AP reporter taking down his story, that "unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases are taken within the next 10 years, the world will reach a point of no return." In Gore's own words, he claimed we were in "a true planetary emergency."

Ten years later, he's probably hoping that everyone has forgotten about his categorical statement.

The terrible truth for Gore is that there is no planetary emergency. Not one of the dire predictions he and the rest of the alarmist community made has come to pass. In fact, there is plenty of evidence that they have been running a racket. Here's how we know:

One, Earth hasn't warmed in nearly 20 years. Yes, 2015 supposedly "smashed" the previous temperature record. But actually it was the third-warmest year on record — or maybe "not even close to the hottest year on record," says James Taylor of the Heartland Institute.

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Who will have a better card hand than this?

Outcrazying each other day by day.

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/business/article/Sanders-to-propose-canceling-entire-1-6-trillion-14032094.php

Could his walk on music be Paul Simon "Still crazy after all these years"?

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https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/449946-as-the-wealthy-flee-new-york-poorest-will-be-most-affected

[valknation]

Haven't they been off the deep end for some time now? 

[Patrick]

Our very own Prince Andrew [ Cuomo] has just left for his third trip this year to the middle east, of course, paid for thru our taxes. But after all we should know all the business our state does with that area.

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https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Colorado-s-snowpack-is-40-times-normal-after-rare-14036967.php

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https://realclimatescience.com/2019/06/tampering-past-the-tipping-point/

[F6Dave]

https://realclimatescience.com/2019/06/tampering-past-the-tipping-point/

That's a great site.  I'd heard they'd tampered with weather history to make the present appear hotter, but I'd never seen so much detail.  What an enormous scam, and the fine Americans just faithfully believe it all.

[98valk]

https://realclimatescience.com/2019/06/tampering-past-the-tipping-point/

That's a great site.  I'd heard they'd tampered with weather history to make the present appear hotter, but I'd never seen so much detail.  What an enormous scam, and the fine Americans just faithfully believe it all.

this book "The Greening" tells how, when and why it all started. It was written early '90s.  The book can be read here https://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/greening.shtml

Then in Section 6, "Substitutes for the Functions of War," Doe, writing for the Special Study Group, goes on to outline the economic necessities which must be applied:

    "Economic surrogates for war must meet two principal criteria. They must be 'wasteful,' in the common sense of the word, and they must operate outside the normal supply-demand system. A corollary that should be obvious is that the magnitude of the waste must be sufficient to meet the needs of a particular society. An economy as advanced and complex as our own requires the planned average destruction of not less than 10% of gross national product..."

Please read this incredible revelation a second, and maybe even a third, time. For this admission will help you understand Lewin's following comment and 40-plus years of history." ...[It explains, or certainly appears to explain, aspects of American policy otherwise incomprehensible by the ordinary standards of common sense."]

After exploring a whole range of "substitute" possibilities, such as a war on poverty, space research, even "the credibility of an out-of- our-world invasion threat," the Special Study Group reports and Doe recites." It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation- and-a-half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution."

I hope you didn't skim over the preceding paragraph. It explains, with almost unbelievable boldness, that environmental concerns were an almost perfect replacement for war, but it would take a generation or a generation-and-a-half (that is, 20 to 30 years) to bring this about. Remember, we are talking about a report circa 1967.

The time frame is now complete, as evidenced by an article in the March 20, 1990, Seattle Post-Intelligencer. The front-page headline says, "Pollution a 'ticking time bomb,' conference warned." Datelined Vancouver, B.C., the lead paragraph read, "Environmental destruction is a 'ticking time bomb' that poses a 'more absolute' threat to human survival than nuclear annihilation during the Cold War, former Norwegian Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland told an international environment conference here."