Cop killer shot dead in Seattle!!

[bsnicely]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578292,00.html


I can't help but think that an armed citizen having coffee that morning may have been able to end the attack before the creep had the chance to kill all the officers. While his attention was focused on the officers a bystander would have had the chance to pull their weapon and come to the aid of the officers. I am putting all the law abiding armed citizens out there as I can with my CCW classes. 7 two weeks ago and around 15 more in two weeks. Get your CCW permit, some day you may be called upon to save a life ( or 4 )!!

[Jess from VA]

Excellent, who says all the news is bad?

Keep up the good work Brian. 

[Kaz]

I'll second that!  I'm glad they killed the SOB.  Saves us tax paying types the cost of a trial and prison.  Now they need to go after the "family and friends" who helped him after he did the deed.

[MAD6Gun]

  Good ridence to this POS. May he burn in hell. He should never have been let out of prison. Now just watch, it would no suprise me if his family files a wrongful death suit against the police.

 Like Ted Nugent said once "I dont like repeat offenders I perfer DEAD offenders". Well said...

 Keep up the good work Brian. As you may know me and my father teach NRA Home Firearm Safety Course. We have not done a class in a few years. Doesn't seam to be much interest. I would not mind teaching Self Defence but Indiana does not require training to carry a gun. So since it is not manditory most wont take the class. And since Indiana has a lifetime permit not that will be even more unlikly....

[Chrisj CMA]

 Good ridence to this POS. May he burn in hell. He should never have been let out of prison. Now just watch, it would no suprise me if his family files a wrongful death suit against the police.

 Like Ted Nugent said once "I dont like repeat offenders I perfer DEAD offenders". Well said...

 Keep up the good work Brian. As you may know me and my father teach NRA Home Firearm Safety Course. We have not done a class in a few years. Doesn't seam to be much interest. I would not mind teaching Self Defence but Indiana does not require training to carry a gun. So since it is not manditory most wont take the class. And since Indiana has a lifetime permit not that will be even more unlikly....

This is a good example of why you dont let career criminals out and why more should be given the death sentence.  Whether he burns in hell or not, thats up to God alone, but in my opinion when he raped a 12 year old girl years ago, we should have arranged a meeting with him and God then and there

[Big Rig]

 Good ridence to this POS. May he burn in hell. He should never have been let out of prison. Now just watch, it would no suprise me if his family files a wrongful death suit against the police.

 Like Ted Nugent said once "I dont like repeat offenders I perfer DEAD offenders". Well said...

 Keep up the good work Brian. As you may know me and my father teach NRA Home Firearm Safety Course. We have not done a class in a few years. Doesn't seam to be much interest. I would not mind teaching Self Defence but Indiana does not require training to carry a gun. So since it is not manditory most wont take the class. And since Indiana has a lifetime permit not that will be even more unlikly....

Wrongful death suit...it would be cheaper to pay them then to keep that pos in a cell...

I was sorry to hear about the 4 fallen LEO's one of them is from my neck of the woods...

my prayer go out to their families and friends.

[fiddle mike]

I'll second that!  I'm glad they killed the SOB.  Saves us tax paying types the cost of a trial and prison.  Now they need to go after the "family and friends" who helped him after he did the deed.

Shee-it. The NAACP would be all over that.  Those blood suckers will probably swarm the City and the PD, as it is. 

[Steve K (IA)]

I'll second that!  I'm glad they killed the SOB.  Saves us tax paying types the cost of a trial and prison.  Now they need to go after the "family and friends" who helped him after he did the deed.

He had been in prison and should have still been there.  So how about they go after the guy who allowed him to get out Extra early?   

[bsnicely]

Can't disagree with that, he should share in the responsibility.

[x]

I'll second that!  I'm glad they killed the SOB.  Saves us tax paying types the cost of a trial and prison.  Now they need to go after the "family and friends" who helped him after he did the deed.

He had been in prison and should have still been there.  So how about they go after the guy who allowed him to get out Extra early?   

That would be Mike Huckabee...

[houstone]

and he is sorry about it.  At least he stands up and is accepting accountability.  Let's see one of your "heros" do that, BT.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578427,00.html

[bsnicely]

I'll second that!  I'm glad they killed the SOB.  Saves us tax paying types the cost of a trial and prison.  Now they need to go after the "family and friends" who helped him after he did the deed.

He had been in prison and should have still been there.  So how about they go after the guy who allowed him to get out Extra early?   

That would be Mike Huckabee...

Yes it was, and even though I am a Republican and he is a Republican, if he is at fault he should be held responsible. I don't make excuses for incompetence, regardless of the letter beside of his ( or her ) name.

[X Ring]

Let's not forget the Judge who let him out on bond for Assaulting a Police Officer and Statutory Rape of a 12 year old the week before.  The Prosecutor should be brought up on charges of misconduct for not vigorously protesting him being allowed bond when he was already out on bond for another violent felony.  In Mississippi, if you're out on bond for a felony and you catch another felony charge, your 1st bond is revoked and you sit in jail awaiting trial.

Marty

[Sludge]

I can't help but think that an armed citizen having coffee that morning may have been able to end the attack before the creep had the chance to kill all the officers. While his attention was focused on the officers a bystander would have had the chance to pull their weapon and come to the aid of the officers.

I agree completely.  However, the news wouldnt have reported it LOL.   Have you ever noticed that the national news NEVER reports when a CCW stops a bad guy?  It happens every now and then and I have never seen not even one reported on the national level.  Not even when the CCW saves a cops life as in the Baton Rouge shooting back in 2005 where Perry Stephens, in a text book engagement, killed a criminal while a police officer was being beaten to death.

[Steve K (IA)]

I know.  The more you read about this creep, a lot of people dropped the ball.  A lot of people should share in the responsibility or at least feel some shame that they could of prevented this guy from doing so much.......damage?  I'm sorry, I just can't find the right words.   

[X Ring]

I know.  The more you read about this creep, a lot of people dropped the ball.  A lot of people should share in the responsibility or at least feel some shame that they could of prevented this guy from doing so much.......damage?  I'm sorry, I just can't find the right words.   

At least Huckabee is taking his share of the blame.  A lot of the others are too busy pointing fingers at others and screaming, "It's not MY fault."

Marty

[RoadKill]

If there were penalties for inappropriate actions in this country we would not be having this discussion !

The cop killer would have been dead long ago and those who enabled him would probably have had the same fate. Instead we either look the other way or just slap them on the wrist and refrain from raising voices at them for fear it will hurt their feelings.   I wonder why society is such a freakin disaster right now .... Consequences ? WTF are those?  

[asfltdncr]

This should kill Hucklebee's run for President-"THANK GOD".

[3fan4life]

This should kill Hucklebee's run for President-"THANK GOD".

Yes, Lord Forbid that an honest man that takes resposibility for his actions would ever occupy the White House.

We can't allow an honest politician in office now can we?

[Moonshot_1]

This should kill Hucklebee's run for President-"THANK GOD".

Nah, this won't kill Huckabee's run for President.

His act of clemency was at the request/recommendation of the clemency board.
It was 9 years ago.
The subject at the time was a juvenile.
There were far more appropriate times to lock this guy up in the last couple of months before the shootings than there were 9 years ago.

And Huckabee didn't hide this under a rug or deny it.

If this is to be used as a standard it would pretty much preclude any former Governor from running for President

[Charlie]

Kinda reminds me of the 1988 elections.  What was that guys name who, as Governor of Massachesetts, let out that, what was he, a rapist, a murderer?  Geeze, I just can't remember the details.  Maybe someone can help me here.  Was the Governor a Democrat or a Republican?  Hmmm. I guess it doesn't matter.  The Governor let out a criminal who later on did his dirty deeds again, and boy, in the run for President, it came out in a big way.  I am sure, with a little thought, we might all be able to remember that one........  Willy something, maybe?  Dukakaa......., my mind is drawing a blank on this one.

At any rate, a bad decision was made by a governor, and it cost him his shot at the presidency.  I am sure, all those who used that bad decision to make sure he didn't get elected would feel exactly the same if Governor Hucklebee were to run again, right?

[Sludge]

This should kill Hucklebee's run for President-"THANK GOD".

Nah, this won't kill Huckabee's run for President.

His act of clemency was at the request/recommendation of the clemency board.
It was 9 years ago.
The subject at the time was a juvenile.
There were far more appropriate times to lock this guy up in the last couple of months before the shootings than there were 9 years ago.

And Huckabee didn't hide this under a rug or deny it.

If this is to be used as a standard it would pretty much preclude any former Governor from running for President

I agree.  He acted at the request of the clemency board.  In Willie Horton's case he was an adult at the time of his crime. 

I dont think either of them should have gotten off.   They needed a dirt nap the minute the judge slapped the gavel down at the end of their trial.  Had I been the judge we wouldnt have had either problem 

Also, the Willie Horton thing wasnt the only thing that killed Dukakis.  The whole tank thing gone airy was used to make fun of him.  Plus many of us just dont trust anything elected in Massachusetts 

[Bob E.]

His act of clemency was at the request/recommendation of the clemency board.
It was 9 years ago.
The subject at the time was a juvenile.
There were far more appropriate times to lock this guy up in the last couple of months before the shootings than there were 9 years ago.

And Huckabee didn't hide this under a rug or deny it.

If this is to be used as a standard it would pretty much preclude any former Governor from running for President

According to the article, Clemmons was 37 now...so 9 years ago he would have been 28 which is hardly a juvenile.  Unless you mean when he committed his crime.

[asfltdncr]

I have since heard that Hucklebee gave clemency to more criminals than the total of the three surrounding states combined.
I like him as a personality but I believe he let his religious beliefs influence his position and decisions.
The only credit I've heard him take was in the form of "WE" when his prosecuting attorney claims that many times (this being one), he was not even brought into the loop.
Right or wrong, it's hard to portray yourself as a  hard-ass Republican with these statistics haunting him.

[X Ring]

Bob, Clemmons committed the crimes when he was 16. He was convicted at 17 and served 11 years before being paroled.

Marty