I'm embarrassed.

[Skinhead]

For the media in this country.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-error-gun-video-syria-turkey?fbclid=IwAR1how37-07ubri-qvdAVN74YunTybbHHf2qdOUpvkzKYWqWARPvLsEgnh8

[Serk]

[Westernbiker]

WTH?   

[Ken aka Oil Burner]

Don't be embarrassed for the media. They do this stuff willingly and hope they don't get caught.

[Foozle]

As a Kentucky gun-owner - I'm not sure whether to be offended or flattered. 

[Skinhead]

I would like to take a trip to that range some day.  Anyone Been?

[9Ball]

I like how they edited out the bystanders with cell phones and woods to appear like desert warfare...accidentally of course.

They are really sorry...that they got caught.

[Serk]

[Big Rig]

They are bc they got caught...but lets face it...the only bright bulbs are the ones in the light fixtures...just sayin....

[The emperor has no clothes]

For the media in this country.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-error-gun-video-syria-turkey?fbclid=IwAR1how37-07ubri-qvdAVN74YunTybbHHf2qdOUpvkzKYWqWARPvLsEgnh8

We've hung our Kurd allies out to dry, and possibly have 10 thousand ISIS prisoners escape, and you are embarrassed about ABC airing the wrong footage ?

[Wizzard]

For the media in this country.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-error-gun-video-syria-turkey?fbclid=IwAR1how37-07ubri-qvdAVN74YunTybbHHf2qdOUpvkzKYWqWARPvLsEgnh8

We've hung our Kurd allies out to dry, and possibly have 10 thousand ISIS prisoners escape, and you are embarrassed about ABC airing the wrong footage ?

Getting involved in other countries affairs with our military was not something I would have thought you supported Rob. I am surprised.

[Trynt]

For the media in this country.

We've hung our Kurd allies out to dry, and possibly have 10 thousand ISIS prisoners escape, and you are embarrassed about ABC airing the wrong footage ?

No. The way I read it, it is a commentary on the MSM's blind hatred of Trump and their willingness to fabricate news.  BTW George H. Bush also abandoned the Kurds in 1991 in their war with Saddam Hussein. I would think they would know better than to trust the USA.

[The emperor has no clothes]

For the media in this country.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-error-gun-video-syria-turkey?fbclid=IwAR1how37-07ubri-qvdAVN74YunTybbHHf2qdOUpvkzKYWqWARPvLsEgnh8

We've hung our Kurd allies out to dry, and possibly have 10 thousand ISIS prisoners escape, and you are embarrassed about ABC airing the wrong footage ?

Getting involved in other countries affairs with our military was not something I would have thought you supported Rob. I am surprised.

To be honest, I don't support it. I think we should have went into Afghanistan with overwhelming power, kicked the crap out of the Taliban and then left. I think going in to Iraq and Syria was a mistake. But once we made those mistakes I think it's shameful to just pull out and leave the Kurds to get destroyed by the Turks, Russians, Bashar's militias. We only had a minimal force there protecting them. It wasn't costing us that much in men or money.

[The emperor has no clothes]

For the media in this country.

We've hung our Kurd allies out to dry, and possibly have 10 thousand ISIS prisoners escape, and you are embarrassed about ABC airing the wrong footage ?

No. The way I read it, it is a commentary on the MSM's blind hatred of Trump and their willingness to fabricate news.  BTW George H. Bush also abandoned the Kurds in 1991 in their war with Saddam Hussein. I would think they would know better than to trust the USA.

There is plenty of footage of the Turkish action. The mistaken video did nothing .

[Moonshot_1]

The question is who is feeding these videos to the likes of ABC? How do we trust the information that is coming out of this place? Clearly there are folks who are shaping the narrative there. These folks have had their apple carts all upset by Trump.

It isn't that I don't care. It is that there is no trust in those in the media who have chosen to inform us.

The US mission in Syria is completed. Has been for some time. The destiny of this region is not for us to decide.

We can contain it using economic pressure on the players in Syria. Perhaps the US can broker a deal between the parties. Trump's approach is worth a shot. I've seen enough Flag draped coffins using the other approach. 

[T.P.]

Maybe it was Sarah shooting her guns in the dark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgAJTeD1vmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FBhidzOWpI

 T.P.

[Trynt]

The mistaken video did nothing .
[/quote]

Of course it did. It illustrated ABC was in such a frenzy to trash Trump that they couldn't be bothered to find the proper video, which according to you was in ample supply.

[Pappy!]

Hey Meathead.....did you just say it wasn't costing us that much in MEN or money? Really???
If it costs us one man....that is too much.

[Serk]

[f6john]

Hey Meathead.....did you just say it wasn't costing us that much in MEN or money? Really???
If it costs us one man....that is too much.

Well that is what was implied. But someone on this board has to provide backup for Schiff, Pelosi, and the squad. How else to get rid of Trump.

[bagelboy]

I don't ever get political, but didn't Obama draw a line in the sand with Syria?..........and do nothing? If you're going to say you're going to do it, and don't do it, isn't that bad for credibility?

[..]

2015 Middle East in a nutshell. Not my words Not much has changed.

President Assad ( who is bad ) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels ( who are good ) started winning ( Hurrah!).

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy ( who are still good.)

So the Americans ( who are good ) started bombing Islamic State ( who are bad ) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) so they could fight Assad ( who is still bad ) which was good.
By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS ( which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.

So President Putin ( who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi ) has decided to back Assad ( who is still bad ) by attacking IS ( who are also bad ) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin ( still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans ( who are good ) who are busy backing and arming the rebels ( who are also good).

Now Iran ( who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good ) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad ( still bad ) as are the Russians ( bad ) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad ( still bad ) Putin ( extra bad ) and the Iranians ( good, but in a bad sort of way ) are going to attack IS ( who are bad ) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) which is bad.

Now the British ( obviously good, except that nice Mr Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is probably bad ) and the Americans ( also good ) cannot attack Assad ( still bad ) for fear of upsetting Putin ( bad ) and Iran ( good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS ( who are super bad).

So Assad ( bad ) is now probably good, being better than IS ( but let's face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there ) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America ( still Good ) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin ( now good ) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran ( also Good ) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS ( still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims ( Assad and Iran ) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good ( Doh!.)

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal ( mmm.might have a point.) and hence we will be seen as Bad.
So now we have America ( now bad ) and Britain ( also bad ) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels ( bad ) many of whom are looking to IS ( Good / bad ) for support against Assad ( now good ) who, along with Iran ( also Good) and Putin ( also, now, unbelievably, Good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

So, now you fully understand everything, all your questions are answered!!!!

[f6john]

I don't ever get political, but didn't Obama draw a line in the sand with Syria?..........and do nothing? If you're going to say you're going to do it, and don't do it, isn't that bad for credibility?

And if you like your plan you can keep your plan and even better, if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor. He was a real piece of work.

[bagelboy]

I think Britman has a grip on what's going on!!!! Now how do we fit in all this again? I thought we now have enough oil !!!!

[Binkie]

Joe....you pot stirrer! How easily this has gone off the rails. See ya Friday buddy.

[Oss]

I sure hope that  our government is (or will be quickly) sharing intel and providing arms to the Kurds

Perhaps there is No need for troops just precision bombing and good old fashioned spycraft

Proxy cold wars were fought that way for decades before we waded into Indochina

Kurds have perhaps been the only ally we have in the theater of operations   A shame to abandon them and it send the worst possible message to anyone who would otherwise take a chance on changing their part of the world to be free.

Never really understood why Washington would kowtow to Turkey.  They play both sides their way and  never apologized or acknowledged killing millions of Armenians.  Growing up I had neighbors who were survivors.  The failure of the world to respond to that genocide led the way to WWII atrocities in Germany and Russia and China

[Reb]

Joe....you pot stirrer! How easily this has gone off the rails. See ya Friday buddy.

See yah Friday, Let's Ride

[G-Man]

I think Britman has a grip on what's going on!!!! Now how do we fit in all this again? I thought we now have enough oil !!!!

And yet this morning 93 octane cost me $3.99 at a Shell station in Goldens Bridge.

[Oss]

take the Valk  87 octane only   

Use some of the $ you won in poker   

[G-Man]

Use some of the $ you won in poker   

Shhhhhhh!  You know how the other side likes to weaponize government agencies.  I wasn't gonna declare those winnings.  No I guess I have to.