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*Solved* Final Drive Help!

Started by Forge, Thu 31, Oct 2019, 14:25:57

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Forge

*** Problem Solved***
I have a 99 Interstate that I picked up earlier this year. When I put new tires on it, I notice that the spines were chewed up. So I sourced a really good looking matched set final drive and drive hub assembly. I noticed my rear wheel did not have the thrust washer installed, so I picked up a new one.
 I have replace the o-rings and applied Loctite Moly paste where needed and assembled everything using proper torque values. I've in neutral and on the jack stands, and the rear wheel is very difficult to turn by hand. I have pulled the rear wheel multiple times making sure all is correct and it is. I even replace the plastic collar that goes around the final drive with my old one in case it was rubbing. No difference. If I ease off the torque on the axle, the wheel is easier, but still firm to spin. If I torque it to 81 ft/lbs, it becomes very hard.
 Originally, I used the poly o-rings from Redeye, and replaced them with a set of Carolina Bike and Trike o-rings in case that is the problem. No difference.
 I have changed tires before and pulled the final drive on my other Valks, so I know what I'm doing, but this one has me stumped.
 I'm supposed to be leaving tomorrow to go camping with my Interstate, but can't take it if it's got issues! I may even have to stick the old drive back on just for this trip. (95 miles each way)
HELP!!!

The emperor has no clothes

#1
I wonder if the spacer collar thing that goes in the pumpkin was compromised with the missing thrust washer ?

hubcapsc

Quote from: meathead on Thu 31, Oct 2019, 14:28:46
I wonder if the spacer collar thing that goes in the pumpkin was compromised with the missing thrust saber ?

Or if you left it out, like I did once... look around for it... #20... it can
just fall out and get pushed to the side and if any amount of time
passes when you have your final drive off, if it is out-of-sight it is
easy to forget...



I took a picture of a Valkyrie collar next to a 1500 wing collar once...



-Mike

Forge

I'm using my original collar.

Forge

Figured it out. I'm a dumbass. I forgot to put my collar in. I pulled the final and was resigned to the fact that I was going to reinstall my old worn one. I pulled it and went to remove the collar to put back in my old one and it wasn't there! I looked at my old drive and it wasn't there either. I remembered cleaning and greasing it, but it was MIA. I glanced over at one of my shelves and it was sitting there. Then I remembered. I set it down to answer my phone yesterday. Dumbass me got distracted and screwed up. I was taking muscle relaxers for my back issues, especially with all these fronts coming through. I purposely did not take one yesterday so I could be clear headed to work on my bike. Obviously I wasn't. The jacked thing is that I remember installing it...
  Either way, all is spinning freely again. Thanks for the input.

Gizmo

Bummer...
Did you use the original collar or one that came with the new final drive?
Just FYI, I measured my spare collar and it is 4.058.


Gizmo


Forge

Read my above I forgot to install the collar that goes in the pumpkin. I feel like a dumbass. I've been working on my own stuff for 35+ years. I even had the part cleaned up and greased ready to go, but didn't install it. I've blown about 6 hours on this today. If I was my own boss, which I am, I should fire myself!

Jess from VA

Don't feel too bad.

I'm not a trained mechanic but I try to fix what I can.  Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't.  But every time I've had parts left over after the fix (more than I like to admit), the dang thing didn't work.

On the upside, by the time I've taken something apart and put it back together a few times, I'm much better at it than the first time.  So there's that. 


The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Forge on Thu 31, Oct 2019, 16:52:32
I've blown about 6 hours on this today. If I was my own boss, which I am, I should fire myself!
;D  :cooldude:

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You're not the first to do something dumb.

You wont be the last either.

CoreyP

Don't worry, first time around on anything is always longer to do and on occasion you miss something because you just don't know it's supposed to be there.

I have a long list of things I can do fast because I've done them before. The first time around things could be kind of shaky because I didn't really know what was there and how it worked. Starter button comes to mind, if you need help I can straighten that right out out in 15 minutes or less. The original time it took me on a Honda was like 3 hours. I now know everything you need to know about how that thing works. LOL.

rug_burn

Yeah-  who among us hasn't done something like that?  I know exactly how you feel. 
  I actually turned down my front wheel  spacer tube to where it looked like that goldwing spacer tube when I first got my Valkyrie, in some misguided move-   and what a mistake that was!  With the narrower wall thickness, it compressed more, making getting the correct bearing tension nigh impossible,  and went through a couple sets of front wheel bearings until I got a stock spacer tube back in there.
  In time we learn, and appreciate the Honda engineers' wisdom...
...insert hip saying here..