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Rubber Cement vs Vulcanizing Cement for Tire Repair Kit

Started by Calboy, Sat 14, Dec 2019, 16:14:15

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Calboy

Sticky strings tire repair kits usually come with rubber cement.
Napa tire repair kit that uses those mushroom plugs comes with vulcanizing cement.
Stop an Go doesn't use anything at all besides the plugs.
Would it be alright if I used vulcanizing cement rather than rubber cement?
I'm asking because I don't think they're interchangeable.
I would like to have a definite answer to my question, if possible.

Bighead

1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing

sandy

I ran a stop n go plug on the back of my wing towing a 400 LB tent trailer. It never leaked and lasted over 2500 miles till the tire wore out. (No glue)

Calboy

Quote from: Bighead on Sat 14, Dec 2019, 17:55:07
My answer would be a new Tire.

My question was not directed at whether to replace the tire or not. I am aware of the all back and forth discussions between the manufacturers of tires, the consumers and the manufacturers of tire repair kits.
It would be like asking the oil corporations for money to develop electric powered cars.
I am a very anal individual and there were countless times when I had replaced tires with just a few hundred miles on them  because of a single nail. Trust me, been there, done that.
Plugs work if one pays attention and knows what is doing.

Calboy

Quote from: sandy on Sat 14, Dec 2019, 18:17:07
I ran a stop n go plug on the back of my wing towing a 400 LB tent trailer. It never leaked and lasted over 2500 miles till the tire wore out. (No glue)

I am in total agreement with you. I used stop n go on my own bikes and friends bikes as well and not one single problem.

The emperor has no clothes

Wouldn't the vulcanizing cement plug have to be heated ? (I thought that's what vulcanizing was, cooking the rubber ?)

Bighead

Quote from: Calboy on Sat 14, Dec 2019, 18:36:54
Quote from: Bighead on Sat 14, Dec 2019, 17:55:07
My answer would be a new Tire.

My question was not directed at whether to replace the tire or not. I am aware of the all back and forth discussions between the manufacturers of tires, the consumers and the manufacturers of tire repair kits.
It would be like asking the oil corporations for money to develop electric powered cars.
I am a very anal individual and there were countless times when I had replaced tires with just a few hundred miles on them  because of a single nail. Trust me, been there, done that.
Plugs work if one pays attention and knows what is doing.
I understood your question fully. And my answer is still a new tire. On a car not that big of a dealbut on a MC you only have Two tires why risk it? A couple hundred dollars is way cheaper that a hospital bill and loss of income or worse being put 6 ft under.
That is being anal IMHO :2funny:
1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing

da prez

The vulcanizing  cement reacts to the compound on the patch. The cement does a similar repair only slower. They will both lube the rope plugs. Rope plugs are wax coated , so neither will seal the plug in place. When a rope is installed , it should be twisted a couple turns to form a knot before insertion tool is pulled out.

            da prez

Ricky-D

The most important thing to observe when using a string (rope) plug is to absolutely follow the hole that was made with the puncturing object.

If there is a failure to follow the path, whether it is with the hole rasp or the string installer you will most certainly increase the possibility of
a ply separation.  For those that don't know, a ply separation is evidenced by a bubble of the rubber under the tread or in the sidewall.

Ply separations are very dangerous due to the fact that they can allow an immediate deflation of the tire if the bubble were to burst.

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