Tries again!!!

[namsgt1946]

I cannot bring myself to go with the auto tire rear--sorry-----are there any of you running an oversize motorcycle tire?  What size and brand and is a matching front available? Any input appreciated!!

[Ricky-D]

That's a very narrow view of the subject, reflecting a restricted knowledge base and lack of enlightenment through education.

Merry Christmas.

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[SANDMAN5]

Personnally, I never imagined myself smarter than MOST engineers.....but IF
they're so smart, why can't they come up with a m/c tire that lasts 30,000
miles? And until you've tried a "square peg in a round hole" you don't actually
know if it will work or not. I have around 35,000 "square peg" miles. How many
do you have?

[mikeb]

well Spirited-6 the one single great thing i love about living in the usa is i have the right to put any dam tire on my valk i see fit . . if you want to buy mc tire go for it but bug off on telling others what they should run  i own 4 bikes and get tired of buying tires every year  or two times a year as luck would have it when i have 15000 miles on a ct on the back of my valk and it still looks new someone is f.ing us on mc tires lasting 10 to 14 k at $200.00 each   

[Farther]

Looks like this thread is starting to get hi-jacked.  I have read on this forum of individuals running a 200 motorcycle tire instead of the 180.

[Jay]

I'm running the Bridgestone Battlax BT-020 200/60VR-16.  $144.87 at jc motors.

[Foozle]

I'll second the Bridgestone Battlax BT-020 200/60VR-16 - which I run with an Avon Venom R on the front.  Fills up the rear fender well nicely, provides a lot of rubber to the road, and handles decently on wet roads.  The only downside is longevity - expect about 8-10,000 miles between replacements.  I did the nutcage mod on the rear fender as a precaution, but others have found no need.  As always, YMMV.  Terry

[R J]

Spirited-6, how long ya been a ridin motors?

The motors I learned on were either 2 or 4 jugs and from 45 - 81 cubic inches.

Guess what, they had car tires on both ends........

So running a car tire is not a new adventure.....

Most of these tires were made by Firestone, Good Year or Monkey Ward (US rubber) I think it was.........

In 242K+, I'd say I have gone through over 100 car tires.  Do you realize how many firkin bike tires that would be?  That's what I figured, you didn't.

If I got caught on the road with a flat, 80% of the time I had to
go to a bike tire.     If it was in town here, and needed replaced it got another car tire.

So please don't bad mouth something you don't know anything about.  Thanks.

[wdvalk]

Do you guys running the bridgestone have a  picture from the back of the bike you could post,i am interested and would like to check it out

[fudgie]

Daaammmnnnn! Someone is having a bad day! 
I for one, can't afford MC tires. Spending $240 every spring puts a huge dent in my rally funds where it could be better spent on half nekkid women and cheap whiskey!     I would gladly spend $70 every 5 years instead. As Bob said, I have about 12,000 square peg miles on my bike and wish I did it years ago and saved $1000.


Metzler makes a 200mm that I have had on since 2001. I've had about 4 of them since and like them very much. Now you could get a 2' wide tire like Dogg's but that would get pricey!

[fstsix]

I ran the Metzler 200 for a while 'good' tire, problem is soft compound 4500 miles and all done... also did the nut cage mod for the 200. NOW!!! for the car tire response  Cost? My first car tire was expensive back in 1975 (A) had to buy 15" rim and then (B) had to have it laced onto my hub (C) had to have custom made lowering blocks for shocks to swing arm made. $$$$$ Why? 36000 miles on that tire and the application fit the performance, 100+ HP sound familiar? 1080cc, this is not a new thing 34 years ago had the same problem with MC tires.

[mirion]

I also would like to put on the largest motorcycle tire possible, hopefully we get some more input on that subject. I am concerned because I have 11.5 progressives on the back, will that pose a problem with the Battle Axe even with the cage mod?

[fstsix]

11.5 also, And 90% 2 up never rubbed with 200 Metz, and did have the nut cage mod, also does not rub w/ CT 2up

[Bugslayer]

I cannot bring myself to go with the auto tire rear--sorry-----are there any of you running an oversize motorcycle tire?  What size and brand and is a matching front available? Any input appreciated!!

Avon Cobra has a 200/60-16.... It's not the exact size, but I've heard of people running them on their Valk.

[rangernight]

Yes, riding a ct is strange at first-----however I find that it has made a better rider as now I do have to pay attention with a keen eye to avoid the only pitfall I have found with the ct.  This being the slow speed bumps, groves and lifted edges of pavement.  I have the ability to buy any tire I choose, however I have gone thru 4 rear tires in a summer living in SC. I ride my bike, very hard and don't want to be pulling tires off every month. The car tire issue has been running for years, we who choose this and stay with it will always have a strong opion of our actions----I have 38K on my last ct---am getting ready for a new one next month and will continue to ride with one.-----You have a great day!!!

[Spirited-6]

That's a very narrow view of the subject, reflecting a restricted knowledge base and lack of enlightenment through education.

Merry Christmas.

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  Merry Christmas to you.

Damn guys. I knew I would get "flack" Did`nt mean to start a fight, just IMOP. I need to quit posting when drinking Very Old Barton.   Anyway, RJ, I`ve been riding 58 years. All on MC tires. Have no idear of miles. Really did not mean to knock anyones choice of tires but I guess I did.   I removed my Org. post so I would not  get FLAMED any more.   Ride On.

[X Ring]

Here's a thread from McDarksiders explaining how to check the max tire size your bike can use.  http://mcdarksiders.forumotion.com/general-motorcycle-tech-information-f14/how-to-check-to-see-the-maximum-tire-size-to-fit-your-bike-t3153.htm

Marty

[eric in md]

o yea i like it  .. you guys that buy m/c tires ... either cant hide money as joe would say or your to scared to try what the rest use and like for that matter ..   can we all be happy and ride safe.. come on is it january yet?     

[X Ring]

I ended up riding in a downpour coming back from a Patriot Guard mission yesterday.  I've never been as confident on a m/c tire in the rain as I was on the DS.

[Jay]

PMS is setting in early this season.  Sometimes I find myself polishing the chrome kitchen and bathroom fixtures.

[Jeff K]

o yea i like it  .. you guys that buy m/c tires ... either cant hide money as joe would say or your to scared to try what the rest use and like for that matter ..   can we all be happy and ride safe.. come on is it january yet?     

Why do these CT threads always degrade to this point? Surely anyone that wouldn't want a car tire on their bike is a moron, scared, has too much money, lacking riding skills... etc.

I rode a bike with a car tire on it, it didn't scare me, but I did think it was very ill handling. So I prefer to not to use one.

But for some reason the CT crowd takes offense at anyone who dares to choose differently.
Big FN deal. Ride what ever tire you want. But for Crying out loud, why did did this have to turn into another "praise the Darkside" thread when the original poster said he no interest in one?

[Ricky-D]

That's a very narrow view of the subject, reflecting a restricted knowledge base and lack of enlightenment through education.

Merry Christmas.

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  Merry Christmas to you.

Damn guys. I knew I would get "flack" Did`nt mean to start a fight, just IMOP. I need to quit posting when drinking Very Old Barton.   Anyway, RJ, I`ve been riding 58 years. All on MC tires. Have no idear of miles. Really did not mean to knock anyones choice of tires but I guess I did.   I removed my Org. post so I would not  get FLAMED any more.   Ride On.

That's nice!  Exactly how did you do that. It is not evident there is a way to delete our own personal postings.

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[Jeff K]

That's a very narrow view of the subject, reflecting a restricted knowledge base and lack of enlightenment through education.

Merry Christmas.

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  Merry Christmas to you.

Damn guys. I knew I would get "flack" Did`nt mean to start a fight, just IMOP. I need to quit posting when drinking Very Old Barton.   Anyway, RJ, I`ve been riding 58 years. All on MC tires. Have no idear of miles. Really did not mean to knock anyones choice of tires but I guess I did.   I removed my Org. post so I would not  get FLAMED any more. Ride On.

That's nice!  Exactly how did you do that. It is not evident there is a way to delete our own personal postings.

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[wdvalk]

ok , guys,now I am curious ,bottom line , what is the largest motorcycle tire  i can run without any mods?

[Larry]

PMS is setting in early this season.  Sometimes I find myself polishing the chrome kitchen and bathroom fixtures.

+1 on this one!     

[Farther]

PMS is setting in early this season.  Sometimes I find myself polishing the chrome kitchen and bathroom fixtures.

Instead of your knob?

[SANDMAN5]

But for some reason the CT crowd takes offense at anyone who dares to choose differently.

Not exactly. There are some on both sides of the issue that get a little excited. I don't care
what kind of tire anybody rides on, just so they don't try telling us that the Darkside won't work.
There are good and bad points on both sides of the argument....uh, I mean "discussion".

[Farther]

ok , guys,now I am curious ,bottom line , what is the largest motorcycle tire  i can run without any mods?

If your rear fender is centered then you should have no problem with the 200.  Otherwise you might need to do the nut cage mod and/or center your fender over the tire.

[GREENDRAGON]

Bridgestone Potenzahttp://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/6packvalk/PoudreCanyonRide4-08016-1.jpg

[GREENDRAGON]

try again

[X Ring]

o yea i like it  .. you guys that buy m/c tires ... either cant hide money as joe would say or your to scared to try what the rest use and like for that matter ..   can we all be happy and ride safe.. come on is it january yet?    

Why do these CT threads always degrade to this point? Surely anyone that wouldn't want a car tire on their bike is a moron, scared, has too much money, lacking riding skills... etc.

I rode a bike with a car tire on it, it didn't scare me, but I did think it was very ill handling. So I prefer to not to use one.

But for some reason the CT crowd takes offense at anyone who dares to choose differently.
Big FN deal. Ride what ever tire you want. But for Crying out loud, why did did this have to turn into another "praise the Darkside" thread when the original poster said he no interest in one?

Jeff, it's the m/t crowd also jumping on those who decide to try the darkside.  I put a car tire on my Valk on Halloween weekend and have approximately 2000 miles on it.  What tire others riders run is their choice and their choice alone.  Just because a rider makes a different choice than someone else doesn't mean that choice is wrong.  A choice can be m/t or c/t, or just brand and model.  It's the individual rider's decision and their decision alone.  If someone asks for advice, I'm willing to give them my experience but I won't dog talk them for deciding differently than I did.  Valkyrie owners aren't the only ones having this discussion.  Check out www.McDarksiders.com and you'll see all brands.  The only brand that doesn't have owners converting on a large scale is Harley because the 3 1/2" wide rear wheel won't accomodate a c/t.  

To help the original poster, I included a link to a thread on a darkside forum that will help him determine how big of a tire he can put on his Valk.  It doesn't matter that it's on a darkside forum, it will still help him in his quest for a larger m/t.  

Marty

[Hoser]

Do you guys running the bridgestone have a  picture from the back of the bike you could post,i am interested and would like to check it out

Here's the Bridgestone 200/60 16 Bike tire pic, green dragon posted the Car tire Bridgestone  hoser

[wd40]

I've run both Battleaxe and Avon Cobra in 200 60 16.  I did the nut cage mod just to do it, so I don't know if it was necessary.  2 up, no problems.
I find that the Cobra is much more prone to locking up under hard braking.  I assume this means the compound is harder than the Battleaxe.  If wear is a deciding factor, Cobra will win.  If traction is preferred, go with the Battleaxe.

[Baloo]

Why do these CT threads always degrade to this point?

I agree for sure! Nearly every thread I read here about tires ended the same way. When someone states that a car tire is not something he's interrested in, he gets flamed immediately. So, I ended up stopping to read these threads. I made an exception to my rule for this one and it allowed me to see that things did not change much since the last one I read! That is sad because there is a wealth of knowledge around here, but every time someone asks for information about tires, the thread is hi-jacked and the OP almost never get an answer. As Jeff stated, the OP on this one clearly stated that he's not interrested in a CT. Why is everybody running a CT trying to "convert" him? Personnally, I never rode a CT, mainly because I never got a chance to try it. I would if I could. So, I'm not riding a MT because I'm afraid of anything or because I have money to loose. I will not talk anybody out of a CT, because I don't know how it feels on a motorcycle. But I hate when people that decided to ride a motorcycle tire gets treated like an idiot because he "did not understand yet".

[Spirited-6]

BALLO, you make a lot of sence !!! Wonder why no one else does.

[mirion]

Well said Ballo, I was hoping to hear an answer to the question posed and did get some good info about a 200 MT but I was afraid to participate in the thread after it started getting ugly....again.

[fstsix]

step... by... step... inch... by... inch... Niagara Falls!!! CAR TIRE AHHHHHHH! Moe Larry Cheese Cheese please    

[fudgie]

Why do these CT threads always degrade to this point?

I agree for sure! Nearly every thread I read here about tires ended the same way. When someone states that a car tire is not something he's interrested in, he gets flamed immediately. So, I ended up stopping to read these threads. I made an exception to my rule for this one and it allowed me to see that things did not change much since the last one I read! That is sad because there is a wealth of knowledge around here, but every time someone asks for information about tires, the thread is hi-jacked and the OP almost never get an answer. As Jeff stated, the OP on this one clearly stated that he's not interrested in a CT. Why is everybody running a CT trying to "convert" him? Personnally, I never rode a CT, mainly because I never got a chance to try it. I would if I could. So, I'm not riding a MT because I'm afraid of anything or because I have money to loose. I will not talk anybody out of a CT, because I don't know how it feels on a motorcycle. But I hate when people that decided to ride a motorcycle tire gets treated like an idiot because he "did not understand yet".

The CT posts were not towards the OP but to the dude with the CT rant. CT posters didn't start the highjacking. 

[Sharkey]

I for one, can't afford MC tires. Spending $240 every spring puts a huge dent in my rally funds where it could be better spent on half nekkid women and cheap whiskey!    

Im with Fudgie on this one. A man has to have his priorities in order.

[Tropic traveler]

After reading through this whole thread I think maybe the OP's question still may not be answered yet. I too am curious as to the limits of a motorcycle tire size that can be put on the back of a Valk. I would be more interested to hear of anyones knowledge of how TALL of a motorcycle tire is available that may fit. We all know of the Valk's relative "buzziness" at highway speeds and a taller tire could help that situation out.
Share the knowledge if ya got it!