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Started by Gobux, Sun 02, Feb 2020, 22:41:26

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Gobux

Can anybody recommend pipes for my 1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT. I have just recently purchased it and the previous owner installed cobra pipes and then removed the baffles. Sounds horrible. I would like to put something on close to the stock sound. I have searched for a used set of pipes but no luck.
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

Kaahn

definitely want to check out Mark T

They are pricey, but the best if you want that stock performance and nice throaty sound
Garage:
1973 Honda C70
1999 Honda Magna
1997 Honda Valkyrie
1995 Honda Goldwing


hubcapsc


I went through the same thing when I got my valkyrie... it didn't
have cobras on there, it had drilled out OEMs that were rusty.
For a while I ran some pretty good Interstate pipes on my bike,
until I finally found a real nice set of Tourer pipes. There's
a small dent in at least one of the headers on the Interstate
pipes, but I still have them...

Ebay and craigslist occasionally have nice pipes, and the Pinwall
ebay reseller often has lots of stuff - he knows what it is worth,
though...

-Mike

98valk

where are u located? might be somebody close to you that has a set but doesn't want to go through the trouble of shipping.  Like me, I have a set of Thrush glass pack pipes for sale and I have no idea how to ship them.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Gobux

I live in Jacksonville Florida. Trying to locate a swap meet for Honda during Bike Week
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

Led

#6
Yea......I have been lately contemplating the opposite!!!

I was thinking of making the sound, as it should be.

Like a Ferrari race car!!  

To each His/Her own I guess?  BUT!!!   The sound of the pipes, ARE all in the "tuning".

If your bike is tuned shitty to begin with......YES.......straight pipes will only exaggerate that aspect of the bike........

I am no longer an Interstate rider anymore......it is just a "show toy" now.......so loud pipes I could live with.

Gobux

I am still having trouble finding stock pipes. What aftermarket pipes have you guys used on your Valk. Post some pics. I am going to buy new exhaust I just don't know whats out there
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

98valk

Quote from: Gobux on Tue 04, Feb 2020, 12:10:27
I am still having trouble finding stock pipes. What aftermarket pipes have you guys used on your Valk. Post some pics. I am going to buy new exhaust I just don't know whats out there


Face book valkyrie pages have them listed.

new cobras,  new oem https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Exhaust-Factory-Sealed-Honda-Valkyrie-Headers-Shields-Tips/264341942975?hash=item3d8c01f2bf:g:qbEAAOSwaLNc7p89

new valkyrie Delkevic exhaust see ebay

plenty of used  ebay.

Viking exhaust only used if you can find them are the best to have.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

hubcapsc


Viking exhaust only used if you can find them are the best to have.

Vikings, they say, increase horsepower a little, but are not quiet and are very hard to find.

MarkT's reworked OEM pipes, they say, increase horsepower and versions of them are
not too loud, they say, and they are readily available.

Since the OP mentioned "too loud" in his post, I'll say from my own experience that
Interstate pipes are the quietest OEM pipes (longest piggies and narrow echo-chamber
tips).

-Mike "they = people who have them"


1NorthRyder

I have Mark T from Horse Apple Ranch currently building me a set. Spoke to him last night and he's  currently working on them so hopefully I get them later this month. I've heard really good things about his pipes so really looking forward to installing them on the bike.

The emperor has no clothes

I have a set of Interstate pipes I'd sell you. But, it's a long ways to ride here from Florida, and it would be too much trouble to ship them.

98valk

Quote from: hubcapsc on Wed 05, Feb 2020, 06:25:11

Viking exhaust only used if you can find them are the best to have.

Vikings, they say, increase horsepower a little, but are not quiet and are very hard to find.

MarkT's reworked OEM pipes, they say, increase horsepower and versions of them are
not too loud, they say, and they are readily available.

Since the OP mentioned "too loud" in his post, I'll say from my own experience that
Interstate pipes are the quietest OEM pipes (longest piggies and narrow echo-chamber
tips).

-Mike "they = people who have them"



I have Vikings, 15HP per dynos viking did, 20HP increase with the air box and jetting I did, I dyno'd with them.   They are only loud when on the throttle hard, cruising nice sound. can be re-wrapped to reduce sound levels even more, which I did.

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Gobux

Still searching for exhaust. I keep seeing slipons. Did the original headers have slipon capability? My cobras do not.
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Gobux on Wed 05, Feb 2020, 18:48:32
Still searching for exhaust. I keep seeing slipons. Did the original headers have slipon capability? My cobras do not.
no

Bighead

Quote from: Gobux on Wed 05, Feb 2020, 18:48:32
Still searching for exhaust. I keep seeing slipons. Did the original headers have slipon capability? My cobras do not.
Many memebers in Florida. (And I am sure many sets are around)
Your best bet is find a set of nice used exhaust.
1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing

Gobux

Thanks

I found a used set of stock pipes in Texas

Be here in a few days

Once installed I will giving away my cobra exhaust if any body wants them. No Baffles
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

hubcapsc

Quote from: Gobux on Thu 06, Feb 2020, 13:49:44
Thanks

I found a used set of stock pipes in Texas

Be here in a few days

Once installed I will giving away my cobra exhaust if any body wants them. No Baffles

It'd be good to start taking your cobras off... find out now if you break any header studs or need any
expen$ive header nuts... and get six header gaskets. The OEM ones are hollow copper
rings that mash down flat, you might not see the old ones up in there unless you look,
might have to pick them out...

-Mike

Bighead

Quote from: hubcapsc on Thu 06, Feb 2020, 14:24:44
Quote from: Gobux on Thu 06, Feb 2020, 13:49:44
Thanks

I found a used set of stock pipes in Texas

Be here in a few days

Once installed I will giving away my cobra exhaust if any body wants them. No Baffles

It'd be good to start taking your cobras off... find out now if you break any header studs or need any
expen$ive header nuts... and get six header gaskets. The OEM ones are hollow copper
rings that mash down flat, you might not see the old ones up in there unless you look,
might have to pick them out...

-Mike


+1 I had to get a pick and fish out 4 of the 6 on mine.
1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing

shadowsoftime

Quote from: Gobux on Sun 02, Feb 2020, 22:41:26
Can anybody recommend pipes for my 1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT. I have just recently purchased it and the previous owner installed cobra pipes and then removed the baffles. Sounds horrible. I would like to put something on close to the stock sound. I have searched for a used set of pipes but no luck.

i have 2 sets of very nice unmolested stock pipes, i will trade 1 set for your cobras if they are in very good shape. we each pay shipping.

Gobux

My new pipes have arrived and I have already promised them to someone else
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

rockbobmel

You might want to hang on to them for a little bit to see how you like them.  I bought a set of stock pipes and they were too tame for my liking. I ended up putting the truck stacks back on. Plus, If you want to modify the new ones, you have backups if you need to send them out.
2002 Valkyrie GL1500CD
1996  Shadow 1100 ACE

Gobux

Thanks for all the advise. I did start the removal of the right side. I did find one Header Bolt broke off.
Everything else looks good. Does any body know the part number for the Header Bolt?
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

Foozle

Quote from: Gobux on Fri 14, Feb 2020, 13:36:32
Thanks for all the advise. I did start the removal of the right side. I did find one Header Bolt broke off.
Everything else looks good. Does any body know the part number for the Header Bolt?

BOLT, STUD (8-6X40)
90035-MN5-000

https://www.partzilla.com/product/honda/90035-MN5-000?ref=5c074560e15459a0f4128d5795c8861d8fb7057f

Terry

Gobux

Thank you very much.

How to you get the O-ring's out of the manifold?
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

Jess from VA

#25
Quote from: Gobux on Fri 14, Feb 2020, 18:05:42
Thank you very much.

How to you get the O-ring's out of the manifold?

If you mean the (crushed) exhaust gaskets, take a small flatnose screwdriver or punch or icepick and pry them out (carefully to the ports).  If any are stubborn, get an edge out and use needlenose to pull it out.  Then a little cleaning (not the old gaskets).

And get new ones.  There is an opinion on here what kind (of several) works better, but I don't know it.  I think they like OE hollow copper ones mentioned above, over fat fibrous ones, so it is easier to get the pipes on and torqued to spec.

And by torque, they are only supposed to get 7 ft lbs each, or you will snap studs.  Seven pounds is like a bit more than snugging up.  

And you have to run the bike hot (go for a ride or two), and then carefully torque them again.  Maybe three times before correct.  Lest you end up with exhaust leaks later, or the spendy acorn nuts fall off.

Two of my exhaust studs are held on with small double hex nuts, sistered up.  (the most hidden ones)

Gobux

Thanks,

I already have the new gaskets (OE Hollow Copper) and I also purchased new acorns.

The only problem I found was one of the header studs has a tip broke off.  trying to get it out is proving to be challenging.

Thanks Again you Guys are Great!!!
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

Jess from VA

#27
If there is enough stud, spin on two nuts, lock them down together, then wrench it out.

Many times, a careful tug tighter, before pulling looser can be helpful.  And a little tapping.    

Penetrating solvent, heat, but not at the same time (without a fire extinguisher).  

(And a decent small extinguisher mounted where you keep your bike is always a good idea anyway.)   

f6john

Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 14, Feb 2020, 23:03:14
If there is enough stud, spin on two nuts, lock them down together, then wrench it out.

Many times, a careful tug tighter, before pulling looser can be helpful.  And a little tapping.    

Penetrating solvent, heat, but not at the same time (without a fire extinguisher).  

(And a decent small extinguisher mounted where you keep your bike is always a good idea anyway.)   

I have changed my pipes multiple times and have never changed the exhaust gaskets. I have a set of new Honda exhaust gaskets from the first time I was going to change the exhaust system but when my original gaskets didn't want to come out, I just left them in the heads. Haven't had an exhaust leak yet. Just for your info in case you have stubborn gaskets.

Forge

I installed stainless split washers on the exhaust studs under the nut. Torqued them down once, and they've never backed off.

rockbobmel

#30
Quote from: Gobux on Fri 14, Feb 2020, 20:10:50
Thanks,

I already have the new gaskets (OE Hollow Copper) and I also purchased new acorns.

The only problem I found was one of the header studs has a tip broke off.  trying to get it out is proving to be challenging.

Thanks Again you Guys are Great!!!



.The double nut didn't work for me because there was not enough meat left. I found a single extractor for my Shadow a while back.  Get some BP blaster and soak it first. https://www.toolsid.com/bikemaster/6-mm-12-mm-roller-type-stud-extractor-set-mpn-151648.html
2002 Valkyrie GL1500CD
1996  Shadow 1100 ACE

psckam

Funny how about ten years ago more than a few  posts on this site were guys wanting to make their bikes louder, I recall suggesting that rather than destroying their stock pipes buy some previously molested pipes and save the stock ones.  Personally I like the sound of the stock pipes, but thats my opinion. Looks like the chicken has come home to roost.  ;)

MarkT

#32
OEM pipes can be made a LITTLE louder - or a lot, or not really louder at all but with a rumbly timbre, with my sound-adjusting options.  All with more power and a custom look.  I run the pipes on my '97 Jade road bike with Silencers, Organ Pipes and SS wool in between them.  Rumbly and a little louder than stock, and more power.  I have audio which I want to hear so don't need extra loud exhaust.  Not the prettiest picture, on the lift; I just shot this for a buyer to show a closeup of this install.  


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Gobux

Stock Pipes are installed and I am very pleased. Thanks for all of the advice and assistance.
1999 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer

twisted

I have a set of pipes that are like brand new... I bought them years ago from a guy that put cobras on his interstate so the end pipe is horizontal not vertical... I mean these are extreme low miles...  Only problem Im in British Columbia so not sure of the shipping... great pipes though

Cheers

twisted

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