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What thread pitch on carb screws?

Started by BINOVC, Sat 15, Feb 2020, 15:39:30

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BINOVC

I'm thinking about replacing the float bowl and slide cover screws with stainless steel socket head screws.  The parts fiche lists the diameter and length but not the thread pitch:
Float chamber: 5x16
Slide cover:  4x18
It looks like the M5 screws are available in .5 (fine) and .8 (coarse).
The M4's are either .5 (fine) or .7 (coarse).
Anyone know the pitch?
Thanks!

Ricky-D

I understand this won't change your mind, but I'm going to tell you this anyways so you know.

The carburetor float bowl screws are a very special screw that Honda, in their wisdom, makes just for the float bowls.

The screws are made of an especially soft metal composition so that, in a case of over tightening the screw, the screw will strip

and not the threads in the carburetor body which holds the float bowl.

It's a very expensive proposition to replace the carburetor body.

The little screws are cheap when compared.
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Quote from: Ricky-D on Sat 15, Feb 2020, 18:58:01
I understand this won't change your mind, but I'm going to tell you this anyways so you know.

The carburetor float bowl screws are a very special screw that Honda, in their wisdom, makes just for the float bowls.

The screws are made of an especially soft metal composition so that, in a case of over tightening the screw, the screw will strip

and not the threads in the carburetor body which holds the float bowl.

It's a very expensive proposition to replace the carburetor body.

The little screws are cheap when compared.
:o when did steel screws become softer than aluminum carburetors ?

steveB (VRCC UK)

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I've used them on carb rebuilds and they give a nice tidy look. Take on board what Ricky-D says and don't brute them up, just snug. Used M4 x 0.7 & M5 x 0.8 suggest you try for size and use copper grease.

WintrSol

Quote from: meathead on Sat 15, Feb 2020, 20:21:48
:o when did steel screws become softer than aluminum carburetors ?
One of the reasons people think Honda's screws are too soft is they use a Phillip's screwdriver, and bugger the heads. I've never damaged one using the proper 'JIS' type screwdriver in them. I'd never heard the screws were softer than aluminum before.
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BINOVC

Thanks all.  Note I read (on McMaster-Carr website) says that if the pitch is not stated, then it is most likely a coarse thread (M5x.8, M4x.7).

6adan

  For anyone that has striped threads there is a product called a Time-Sert that works great for repairing the carbs.
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Quote from: 6adan on Tue 18, Feb 2020, 13:52:00
  For anyone that has striped threads there is a product called a Time-Sert that works great for repairing the carbs.

A excellent insert for sure given you have wall thickness to use them thus HeliCoil come into play but not my favorite to use. You can also make a insert out of a set screw using Loctite to keep in place or "staking" it in similar to the Time-Sert method.